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Spyware, viruses, & security : BIT TORRENT IS VIRUS
Not going to quit
by micker377 - 6/19/06 11:34 AM In reply to: Minimal Risk by kookyIt's OK if you don't care about YOUR computer (good back-ups, etc.), but you could also be infecting anyone you come in contact with. Spare the rest of us.
Can your write legitimately???
by hoserdude - 6/19/06 1:10 PM In reply to: i know but by mike3954Could you please work on writing so it can be read? My gosh, can you even understand your own writing? Ugh!
...i'm missing something
by shankru85 - 6/19/06 5:45 AM In reply to: (NT) Yep, Good Reason NOT To Install P2P Programs by Grif Thomas
BitTorrent is open-source .
http://fileforum.betanews.com/search?search=BIT%20TORRENT
2. BitTorrent for Windows 4.9.9 Beta
Protocol for distributing files
License: Open Source
OS: Windows (All)
BitTorrent is NOT a virus
by Trane Francks - 6/19/06 5:08 AM In reply to: BIT TORRENT IS VIRUS by mike3954BitTorrent is (1) a peer-to-peer network protocol specification and (2) the name of the original program that implemented that protocol. It is by no means a virus in and of itself.
It is possible that one of the archives distributing a BitTorrent program is infected with a virus, yes, but to offer a blanket "IT'S A VIRUS! RUN FOR THE HILLS AND HIDE YOUR WIMMIN-FOLK AN' CHILLEN WHILE YOU'RE AT IT!" message is just nonsense and not at all helpful.
Supply the name and size of the file archive you downloaded that caused you the trouble. Also supply the source of that file. Chicken-Little messages aren't helpful and only serve to alarm people without giving them real facts with which to work.
False positive?
by accs305 - 6/19/06 9:14 AM In reply to: BIT TORRENT IS VIRUS by mike3954This has been known to occur, even in the best AV apps.
Oh and the next time you decide to send out an alert, please be sure to take a few deep breaths; then start typing. Try a spell and grammar check if possible.
Your alert looks more like the work of a chronic paranoid schizophrenic than a cocerned netizen.
What?
by skrackov - 6/19/06 11:44 AM In reply to: BIT TORRENT IS VIRUS by mike3954What are you trying to say exactly? That BitTorrent is a virus? First, BitTorrent is a technology, not a program or for that matter a virus.
I think you should try to express yourself more clearly next time and don't CAPS if you want anyone to take your post serious.
Trane, Your Feelings Are Clear
by Grif Thomas - 6/19/06 4:46 PM
In reply to: BIT TORRENT IS VIRUS by mike3954
Based on your post HERE, you will continue to champion the safe usage of BT. Clearly this is based on your usage and knowledge of the product.
Likewise, I will continue to champion the safe usage of BT and other P2P software.
We agree. Still, my experiences with all P2P products, including BT, indicate a large variety of accidental of purposeful misuses. (From not necessarily "stupid" people as you state, but just uneducated.) You stated: "You're trying to blame a protocol & program for its misuse". You're exactly correct. I see an extreme amount of misuse of the product and as such, I warn against the dangers of using them. Apparently, your comments about "no known risk", etc. seem to promote the apparent lack of risk.
You'll promote the use of BT because you feel it's a safe computer use and generally used legally.
I'll discourage its use because I feel it's an unsafe computer use and generally used for illegal purposes.
Obviously, we feel different.
Thanks for the great discussion.
Grif
Enjoyed it!
by Trane Francks - 6/19/06 9:09 PM In reply to: Trane, Your Feelings Are Clear by Grif Thomas
Fun to chat with you, Grif. Enjoyed it a lot. Not to poo-poo the risks, you know. I spent 2 hours cleaning spy-/malware off of my wife's machine after catching her mindlessly clicking OK on an "Install this ActiveX control" dialog at some site on Sunday. Joy. *GRINS*
trane (awfully glad to no longer officially work in IT)
A bit of torrent
by comicfan - 6/19/06 11:48 PM In reply to: BIT TORRENT IS VIRUS by mike3954While reading this whole scenario, I don't think that Bit torrent is a virus in itself but it allows many to piggyback. I have had to deal with many people's computers who get viruses simply by using it to download a safe file. While I would do a scan on the file, it was not infected, but somehow viruses came along for the ride and were indeed their own entity in the matter. How do I know? They would go back and download the same file, since I would delete the whole lot, and accompanied were viruses once again.
I can't honestly say that it's knowledge that keeps people from getting viruses using it as many were fairly knowledgable people when it comes to security and pcs in general. I question how many can say it's not used for illegal purposes, if something is truly free, would we need Bit torrent? Probably not as it would be distributed among other means. Also, any free or legal sharing I have done has never needed BT or Kazaa or any other P2P. And I would argue that many who defend BT to the point of giving it godhood, are illegal downloaders\sharers anyway. <<(NOT ALL)but many.>>
No, I am not passing judgment here and I don't care what anyone does, after all, it's money in my pocket to fix it. All i'm saying is that a lot would ignore or try to sugarcoat the risks to get something for nothing. I get rid of a lot of viruses, spyware, etc... every year for people and the main causes are these, BT, Limewire, Kazaa and\or poor security measures.
So all i'm saying is, don't pretend BT is a safehouse as long as you have some know how, because it's definately not but let's not say it's the root of all evil either, it's simply how it's used.
Paul
T_T
by mike3954 - 6/20/06 4:50 PM In reply to: A bit of torrent by comicfanthanks,but i give up this is uslass if its not a relevent topic so dont botther posting anymore
one more thing
by mike3954 - 6/20/06 5:00 PM In reply to: T_T by mike3954i re downloade lates ver off www.download.com and it said some of there connecting sites were giving malcluis(viral(cant spell)) software so it infected because of one my download now i fixed it i declare this disscaution closed
Discussion closed, good thing I have a key...click...
by comicfan - 6/22/06 12:25 AM In reply to: one more thing by mike3954While I can see your point that you can't spell very well and must be frustrating to say the least, I apologize as I didn't understand what you meant here.
Did you mean download.com's sites were giving malicious viral software or BT's connecting sites? Which download did you mean was infected? I truly want to know for my own informational purposes.
You seem a bit frustrated but if you are getting viruses from somewhere, it's good to let people know.
Thanks, Paul
Torrent screws with other things???
by Sammmas - 12/6/08 1:28 PM In reply to: BIT TORRENT IS VIRUS by mike3954Could this possibly have stopped gamemaker being able to test games?
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