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- 5/9/06 3:01 PM
here are some facts within the apple/windows story
by metalhead11 - 5/20/06 10:26 PM In reply to: Wait, are you calling OS X unethical???????? by metalhead11Microsoft did not have anything one could call a GUI until 1995 while apple had it in '84. You my friend dont have your facts straight
my facts are correct
by MichaelF - 5/21/06 4:35 AM In reply to: here are some facts within the apple/windows story by metalhead11As I said in my post the original idea for the gui operating system and the use of the mouse etc came from Xerox.
Reference here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_history
and at one time Xerox did file a copyright infringement against apple over gui issues
Feel free to provide references for your facts, I would like to read them.
Michael
interesting topic
by Jonzie777 - 12/15/08 4:30 PM In reply to: my facts are correct by MichaelFi find it amazing that alot of tech's or techy people don't know that Apple got Gui from xerox and also the mouse it was made out here in California at there palo alto facility but when taken to the big wigs at xerox they laughed it off, then Steve jobs got his hands on it and make it even better, then bill gates STOLE it yes i said it, from apple and turned it into some thing else yet again, i find it funny because not many people know that bill gates is the richest thief in the world.
Fact: Apple did not rip off GUI
by scottyat2 - 5/21/06 11:40 AM In reply to: here are some facts within the apple/windows story by metalhead11Go to this link:
http://www.mackido.com/Interface/ui_history.html
Also perform an Engine Search for " Xerox vs Apple ".
The facts and support are there, that Steve Jobs only
through his Employees developed from a rough and broad concept the Users Interface which became the GUI as we know it.
So Apple is the origin of the GUI.
Xerox didn't even get off the ground at that time with UI or whatever implied ideas toward it.
I look at it this way, if it was for the founders of Apple Inc. then we'd still be at Home wishing we had a computer.
EXACTLY
by metalhead11 - 5/21/06 2:48 PM In reply to: Fact: Apple did not rip off GUI by scottyat2Xerox may have invented gui, but apple completely changed and revolutionized it. Similarly to as xp is only a breed of os x. Apple may have invented OS X, but windows ruined it. 
impartial?
by MichaelF - 5/22/06 1:41 AM In reply to: Fact: Apple did not rip off GUI by scottyat2Interesting read your website
A pro Mac website is hardly impartial and it uses sentences like "already had the same broad goals" and "possibly using some of the same concept". Not a ringing endorsement but more like hopeful optimism.
Doesn't matter though, as business is business and Mac has trodden on as many toes as Microsoft over the years. What matters is that we have alternatives. I have used MAcs and hate them, I am glad I have the choice and sincerely enjoy the problem free experience I have with my Windows XP operating system and my home built computer (all by myself). I am similarly looking forward to Vista also adding to my enjoyment, once I have taken the time to understand its strengths and weaknesses, just like every other product on the market.
That does not make me misimformed, it does not mean I fear change or any other excuse people make for the prevalence of Windows users, what it means is that my tastes differ. Similarly I could like Linux (and its dozens of different versions) or whatever. Each has their strengths and weaknesses and sometimes it just comes down to personal choice. Mac using Intel will broaden those choices more, with XP mow being able to run on a mac and hopefully soon Mac os being able to run on my computer, though Apples preference for propriety may delay that.
So lets revel in our differences as choice is good and no need to put other options down.
Michael
No I didn't
by MichaelF - 5/21/06 4:25 AM In reply to: Wait, are you calling OS X unethical???????? by metalhead11I never called Mac OS unethical. The post before mine called Windows unethical and its users idiots and as a satisfied problem free windows user I disagreed.
Also Windows defender is NOT an antivirus program, and encryption has been available since Windows 2000.
Michael
Calm down.
by ranron - 5/21/06 8:15 AM In reply to: Wait, are you calling OS X unethical???????? by metalhead11May I remind both of you that you are not in court and nobody needs you two to duke it out.
Windows has its drawbacks, and so does OS X. Face it, neither is perfect, and the only way technology can improve is one company sees what is the making the their competition better and the first company attempts to imitate their competition's sucess factor. None of this is unethical. If I were one company and I made a product that was better than yours, would you just sit back and hope for the best, or would you see what makes my product better than yours and try to improve your own?
There are less people using OS X. I can bet that less than one percent of the people in Asia know what Macintosh is. As far as they're concerned Windows is the One. So who are those hackers in Kazakistan or China going to target? An OS they don't care [or know] about?
Yes, the Windows user has to suffer from all these problems, whether it would be hackers, viruses, or bugs, but why are there still people using Windows when OS X is so good? Windows is where many software applications are. Whether it be games or basic utilities, developers target a wider consumer audience, which means consumers will go for the OS that suits their needs. OS X is easy to use and for the most part safe and clean; nobody should doubt that.
I personally just bought my first OS X system. I can tell you that I'm enjoying every bit of it, but when it comes to gaming, I will still need a Windows machine. Nobody buys a Apple for gaming. (Well now that they run Windows they might). =)
OK...
by metalhead11 - 5/21/06 2:53 PM In reply to: Calm down. by ranronYou know, of course, being an informed os x user, that the only reason windows became so popular was because of its integration to ibm. IBM before windows joined them was by far the most powerful computer distributer (8 major distributers were often reffered to as IBM and the 7 dwarfs), the only reason they are "the one" is because people fear change. At this time, IBM controlled the majority of the computer buisness, and no one really wanted to change from their beloved os to a new one. the saddest part is that vista will suck and still sell billions of copies.
Sometimes it's a matter of what one can afford
by scott_789 - 5/29/06 4:41 AM In reply to: OS X!!!! What the hell is spyware???? by metalhead11I don't think Mac users who insult Windows users realize that sometimes it's just a matter of cost. I'm definitely not an idiot, and consider some pro-Mac postings along those lines very sophomoric (they're not unlike those "Firefox totally rules!" postings).
Incidentally; I use Firefox and Opera, but refuse to get involved in those debates. (Opera's better though. -- oh crap, there I go now!):D
In short, lighten up man!
Opera rules
by metalhead11 - 5/29/06 7:09 PM In reply to: Sometimes it's a matter of what one can afford by scott_789I most definetly agree, opera is a zillion times better
there is still no question Lavasoft is the #1
by turnergirl24 - 5/13/06 10:22 PM In reply to: Which antispyware utility would you use? by Marc Bennett
Lavasoft is the number it scans deep Webroot spyware
sweeper is one of the worst I tried just about all
you have listed plus some not sisted is better than
webroot I can't under before the promoted Webroot and
it just don't do a good job that is a fact and Registry
firstaid is the best in that field no question on it.
f/s
reguards
ID USE
by john.mm - 5/14/06 7:54 AM In reply to: Which antispyware utility would you use? by Marc Bennett
Id use Kaspersky
A computer novice's approach to minimizing spyware damage
by Wil712 - 5/14/06 8:03 AM In reply to: Which antispyware utility would you use? by Marc Bennett
As a computer novice (averaging 1-2 hours usage), this should be taken in context. But having spent countless hours just trying to keep my Windows 98 and now XP computers from being hijacked, the last few months have been relatively problem-free. The difference seems to be that when I converted from dial-up to Bell South DSL, I also subscribed to their internet security package for $6.95 per month. Apparently their anti-spyware software is up to the task, because since my sign-up, whenever I run someone else's spyware scan (like Spybot or Spywareblaster) I get no hits for spyware, whereas pre Bellsouth Internet Security I would get scores of hits. The only time spyware caused a problem was when a spyware item disabled the Bellsouth program, and a toll-free call to Bellsouth led to a quick solution with an anti-spyware re-install. This is the only glitch I have had in 7 or 8 months, which has been bliss compared to the experiences I had previously.
Other antispyware programs
by jacklg0 - 5/14/06 9:14 AM In reply to: Which antispyware utility would you use? by Marc Bennett
BitDefender seems to find a lot of spyware and viruses the other programs miss. I use several, followed up by the online scan by BitDefender (there is also a free download)- I use AdAware, Spybot (fully activated free versions, most people do not use them fully, default settings do very little by comparison) as well as Yahoo Toolbar (IE and Firefox) and SpywareBlaster. Other programs depending on system and what kind of surfing and email. Various Anti-Viruses are tried, some find some spyware. Windows Defender helps on an infected or new clean machine, somewhat, if the OS can take it and the machine is fast enough. I use computers on a network, some part of the security, others isolated. All get some spyware that needs to be cleaned, but very little compared to the unprotected computers I get to repair (clean, save data, reformat, reinstall) because of hundreds of spyware and virus infections. I get to see almost everything mentioned on the spyware forums, including the fake anti-spyware and antivirus programs, some people paid for them. I have even seen systems BIOS and Hard Drive failures I think are due to viruses (worn out sectors on hard drive from constant reboots and re-reads of the same area, apparently)
-JG-
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