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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 5/12/06 Adding old hard drive to new PC with only SATA connections

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 5/16/06 12:21 PM
Post 16 of 54

XP Pro

by 70441.2227 - 5/14/06 6:49 PM In reply to: Thanks. I'm no newbie at this tho by raoulleon

Hi,
Exactly what in XP Pro did you need that isn't in XP Home?

Thanks

Post 17 of 54

XP Pro

by jdeere_man - 5/14/06 8:25 PM In reply to: XP Pro by 70441.2227

Really the only reason one would actually need XP pro is if they were in a domain environment. We use XP pro at the school I do tech for and it works great. But I've done a lot of home networking with XP home for people. We stick to Pro at school becasue we have a Windows 2003 server that runs the domain. Otherwise Home edition would be sufficient for most users. Pro also supports NTFS file encryption, but if you're serious about security you'd probably opt for something else anyway. As far as running apps goes they'll both do exactly the same thing.

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ASP developement

by pmchefalo - 5/15/06 4:24 AM In reply to: XP Pro by jdeere_man

The other compelling reason to run XP Pro is ASP development; XP Home won't run IIS, and ASP only runs on IIS.

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ASP & IIS

by 70441.2227 - 5/17/06 9:51 PM In reply to: ASP developement by pmchefalo

Thanks for the information. I now know that I won't need XP Pro.

Bob

Post 20 of 54

XP

by 70441.2227 - 5/15/06 11:01 AM In reply to: XP Pro by jdeere_man

Thanks, I think I'll go with Home.

Post 21 of 54

That isn't the topic, but...

by raoulleon - 5/14/06 8:55 PM In reply to: XP Pro by 70441.2227

I like the extra security features like file encryption and user-access control, there are features that help me with my web sites and Remote Desktop. :)

Post 22 of 54

XP Pro

by 70441.2227 - 5/15/06 11:06 AM In reply to: That isn't the topic, but... by raoulleon

Thanks, I really don't need those options. I think I'll just go with Home.

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re:

by jdeere_man - 5/14/06 8:29 PM In reply to: Adding my old drive 2 new PC by raoulleon

It should work fine as a second hard drive. As far as it having an OS installed on it too, it won't matter as long as your bios is set to boot from the right drive. Once you drop the old drive in the new machine you could just delete the windows folder all together to gain space on the old drive. But be aware that just dropping an old drive in a new computer doesn't mean the apps on the old drive will work. It doesn't work that way for most programs.

Post 24 of 54

Any better way to move apps?

by raoulleon - 5/14/06 9:00 PM In reply to: re: by jdeere_man

Thanks, that's what I thought. In your opinion, is there any better way to move large apps in a time-efficient manner to my new PC? Unfortunately, most were just downloads with no disc. One app I've purchased probably 1,000 downloaded files for.

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Way to move files.

by zepper - 5/15/06 3:12 PM In reply to: Any better way to move apps? by raoulleon

Partition Magic (now sold & "maintained" by Symantec) used to come with a little utility called "Magic Mover" that could successfully move many "clean" apps to other drives letters w/o a reinstall. "Clean" means an app that doesn't spew files all over the place or insert random lines in the Registry.

I'm fairly sure that SystemSuite 6 from http://www.v-com.com also has an app mover. I'll check my copy later and reply back with more specifics. Right now SS6 is very inexpensive for all that you get (comes with Trend AV, recently chosen best buy by Conumer Reports - if that means anything to you, and Anti Spyware; Sygate Firewall, etc. too) at Amazon - about $15. after rebate. SS6 is my favorite utility suite for Windwoes.
Beware, SS6 comes with a free limited version of PowerDesk - once you use it a few times, you'll want the full version. So they'll be able to nick you for another $20. There goes the ol' rebate. ;)

.bh.

Post 26 of 54

Off the subject...but we learn this way.

by 70441.2227 - 5/16/06 12:18 AM In reply to: Way to move files. by zepper

Hi,
Does Partition Magic merge partitions of the same physical drive? My new computer came with two partitions on the C:\ drive. I would like to merge them into one partition.
What does Power Desk do?
Thanks,
Bob

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Partition Magic Use / Second Partition

by pmchefalo - 5/16/06 5:30 AM In reply to: Off the subject...but we learn this way. by 70441.2227

Yep, Partition Magic can merge two partitions on the same drive, with some limitations. In some versions the partitions needed to be physical ''neighbors''; not sure whether they relaxed that now.

To be correct, you don't have two partitions on the C:\ drive: you have a C:\ partition and another on the same physical drive.

CAUTION: that second partition MIGHT contain system restore data that can be accessed by a program in ROM or from a CD, and then copied to the boot partition in case of a massive failure of the operating system. (In some cases to you can actually do a repair installation that preserves your installed programs.)

About the only time I'd recommend merging a recovery partition with the main one (after formatting the non-boot recovery partition!) is when you've upgraded your operating system and wouldn't want to restore it anyway. A possible alternative reason: you have run out of room on the C:\ partition, and have a CD with the OS for use in case of an emergency to restore the system, so you could merge them to avoid buying another drive.

I'm not familiar with PowerDesk, unless it's that old ''replacement Explorer'' for Windows that gives a shell like I used for DOS 5.0.

Post 28 of 54

Merge partitions

by 70441.2227 - 5/16/06 9:09 AM In reply to: Partition Magic Use / Second Partition by pmchefalo

Hi,
Thanks for the information. My son built the computer for me. For some reason, he created two partitions. There is nothing on the second partion except for a config.sys file. I would like to merge the partions into one.

Bob

Post 29 of 54

I'd leave the second partition and move my swap file to it..

by cglrcng - 5/17/06 5:25 PM In reply to: Merge partitions by 70441.2227

or use it for data & applications storage.

What he did was correct. XP doesn't really play nice w/ large HD's. Multiple partitions are the way to go.

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Swap Drive on same volume?

by pmchefalo - 5/17/06 6:40 PM In reply to: I'd leave the second partition and move my swap file to it.. by cglrcng

Putting the swap drive on the same volume will give no real advantage even if it is in a different partition. Uses the same controller, drive head, etc. Putting the swap file on a second volume will improve performance.

AFAIK, Windows XP uses large hard disks just fine in one partition. Most people forget that they have two partitions and everything ends up on the C:\ partition anyway. Further, most people don't know how to clean up the Temp folder in their Local Settings folder, or they never delete the System Restore files that takes up by default 12% of their disk, so they run out of disk space on the C:\ drive.

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