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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 5/12/06 Adding old hard drive to new PC with only SATA connections
- 5/16/06 12:21 PM
agreed, sway on same physical disk is no advantage
by jdeere_man - 5/17/06 7:56 PM In reply to: Swap Drive on same volume? by pmchefaloI would agree that putting the swap on a different partition that is on the same physical drive as the rest of your data and os would give no advantage. As stated it uses the same read/write head as everything else so you don't gain speed. If you're looking for speed you could put swap file on different physical drive. What you should do is add ram really or go to raid configuration with striping (probably Raid 5) if your wanting faster drive read/write/access times.
Merge partitions
by zepper - 5/16/06 11:47 AM In reply to: Off the subject...but we learn this way. by 70441.2227Yes, both Partition Magic and Partition Commander can easily merge partitions or transfer free space from one logical drive to another.
. If you noted the section in my Answer of The Week about creating folders on the second partition and moving apps and data into them could apply in your situation as well. I think I noted that most large HDDs should be sliced into two or more logical drives.
. PowerDesk could be thought of as Windows Explorer on steroids. The full version includes: FTP, the ability to view numerous file formats w/o having the app that created the files installed, an archive manager (similar to WinZip) that treats the archive files just like other folders and can compress/decompress in many formats (zip, arj, tar, etc.), print directory lists, encrypt files/folders, do batch file renames, agglomerates many Win functions into its menus, etc. You can find info on the full version at the http://www.v-com.com web site as well as freely download the trial, limited version.
.bh.
Why would you want to do that?
by 70441.2227 - 5/17/06 1:48 AM In reply to: Merge partitions by zepperHi zepper,
Thanks for the information. I'm trying to learn here so bear with me. I don't have any idea why you would want to seperate a drive into two partitions. Unless you were doing something unusual (like running multiple OS's). Could you explain it to me?
Thanks again,
Bob
App. Mover in SS6 - Yes!
by zepper - 5/16/06 11:26 AM In reply to: Way to move files. by zepperThe app mover is part of the Uninstaller. It says that it can move apps that don't use the Windows installer. After it has indexed all the apps on your system, the ones it can't move will be listed in red.
. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me as one would think that having a program installation database available should make uninstalling or moving an app just that much easier...
.bh.
Mixing Optical and PATA Drives on One IDE Channel
by pmchefalo - 5/12/06 4:19 AM In reply to: 5/12/06 Adding old hard drive to new PC with only SATA connections by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
A caveat to the winning response is that option 1, putting the optical drive and hard drive on the single IDE channel, will result in very slow performance for the hard drive, since the bus will be limited to the optical drive speed, typically 33MHz. Perhaps not too bad an option if the drive is used only for backup, but a non-starter for action games.
Option 2 is interesting, but I wonder as a practical matter about the availability of the floppy-type power connector for the SATA adapter -- seems like a somewhat flawed design by the vendor, since floppy connectors are often limited to one on newer power supplies.
ALl in all I think I'd opt for the add-in PCI card as the number one approach.
66MHz operation
by zepper - 5/12/06 6:03 AM In reply to: Mixing Optical and PATA Drives on One IDE Channel by pmchefaloMany optical drives (burners especially) these days are capable of at least 66MHz operation but some do require a jumper to be set for that. Good catch.
.bill h.
Connector
by Flirkann - 5/12/06 10:04 PM In reply to: Mixing Optical and PATA Drives on One IDE Channel by pmchefalothe floppy connector is cheaper, and places less stress on the solder joints holding it to the adapter board.
I haven't found this to be an issue as each adapter I have came with a short Y-cable.
Old and New HHD connections
by scottyat2 - 5/12/06 5:05 AM In reply to: 5/12/06 Adding old hard drive to new PC with only SATA connections by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I think you have some good options as from Bill H. has left you.
Actually, I'd transfer all my Data onto the newer HHD's or onto Disc's and keep the older types with the
old/outdated PC and use it as an Alternate.
Trying to jerry-rig or applying adapters to accomodate
the old will be a temporary solution which could leave you much to desire as it was mentioned within lack of
Instructions on "How To".
To change your Computer Configuration by changing MOBO (motherboard and Chip set) does have it's cost as per upgrade. Enjoy your new computer.
I wish you success.
I wonder who Bill H. is , as I'm from Syracuse, NY ..... he has good resource abilities.
Hummm!!!
I am that I am...
by zepper - 5/12/06 11:34 AM In reply to: Old and New HHD connections by scottyat2You can email me if you like. wilyNOSPAM6@netscape.SPAM0net . remove CAPS or she no work...
.bh.
Can someone recommend a good SATA/USB2 enclosure?
by shannon504 - 5/12/06 5:26 AM In reply to: 5/12/06 Adding old hard drive to new PC with only SATA connections by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Reason I ask is that I did buy one, a “Venus DS3 SATA Disk Enclosure” and while the first few times I used it – to copy 1 backup file to it – that worked, but when I try to copy multiple files to it I get (something like) “delayed write failed” – (on more than 1 of my systems) so I’m thinking it’s an inferior chipset. I get this error even when I used their drivers.
Vantec HDD Removable and External SATA I-II +USB2
by POBSTAR - 5/12/06 8:54 AM In reply to: Can someone recommend a good SATA/USB2 enclosure? by shannon504You will find att: http://www.vantecusa.com/product-storage.html The right encloser that suit your need Shanoon 504.
I use a Vantec NextStar3 External enclosure that is:
Aluminum Casing Cools Down Your Hard Drive
Transfer Rates Up to 3Gbps W/ eSATA
Transfer Rates Up to 480Mbps W/ Usb 2.0 (12Mbps W/ USB1.1)
Easily Add Storage to Any System With SATA or USB
Hot-Swappable: Plug And Play Without Rebooting
Attractive Blue LED Indicates Power/HDD Activity
Supports Up to 500GB Hard Drives
I use also the Vantec EZ Swap SATA Removable Hard Drive Rack MRK-200ST-BK that is:
Compatible With 3.5" SATA Hard Drives (HDD)
Swap HDDs w/o Turning Off Or Opening Your PC
Aluminum Case w/ Additional Cooling
Temperature Display w/ Alarm
SATA Interface
Blue LCD Display
Anti-Dust Hard Drive Casing
Easy And Secure Three-Step Key Lock.
Up To 150 MB/sec Data Transfer Rate
40mm Rear Cooling Fan
Power/HDD Access Indicator
Those 2 products of Vantec work great on my two PC plus the fact that I use 2 Ez Swap so that I can switch them from one PC to the other.
The external enclose is very handy an reliable with a 350Go Maxtor SATA II HDD that I connect in the rear back panel of My first PC that have a direct SATA II connector. I use it also with the USB2 connector on my second PC.
I use also the Coolmax CD-311 SATA Combo
http://www.coolmaxusa.com/productDetails.asp?item=CD-311&details=features&subcategory=U2&category=3.5
that is: Coolmax Aluminum External Enclosure SATA Combo CD-311, for 3.5" SATA/ IDE Hard Drives, USB2.0/ 1394a/ SATA Triple Interface Input
The CD-311 is a Coolmax External Enclosure SATA Combo, for 3.5" SATA/ IDE Hard Drives, USB2.0/ 1394a/ SATA Triple Interface Input, IDE/ Serial ATA interface output. SKU#: 15436.
Features: USB2.0/ IEEE1394a/ Serial ATA triple interface input. IDE/ Serial ATA interface output. Support Hot-plug, plug and play.
Specifications: Data Transfer Rate: 3.5" IDE HDD: USB2.0 TO IDE/SATA, 480Mbps, Serial ATA to IDE, 66/ 100/ 133MB/s; 3.5" Serial ATA HDD: IEEE 1394a to IDE/SATA, 400Mbps, Serial ATA to Serial ATA, 150MB/s. Power Adapter: AC input 100-240V ; DC output 12V/5V switching power adapter. Main Material: Aluminum.
Did'nt have any problem with this one ether.
I recommand those 3 products that I use on My two PC's with Windows XP Pro SP2 without any hesitation.
SATA adapters
by 4jackie40d - 5/12/06 6:00 AM In reply to: 5/12/06 Adding old hard drive to new PC with only SATA connections by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
There are adapters that will require the normal IDE power supply plug in I know and I have some as I got them for adding to my computer . . but my computer has both type plugs . . So when I switch over to Mother board which ONLY has SATA plugs I am ready but I got a long ways to go as the processor is upgradeable on this mother board to a 3.6 gigahertz Intel CPU ( if I can afford it haha )
Keep it Simple
by WAArnold - 5/12/06 9:19 AM In reply to: SATA adapters by 4jackie40dUse the KISS route. Keep It Simple St.... I think, with all the responses that have already been given you have all you need to install that hard drive into your system. However, let me say, I believe you will find, in the long run, you will be much more happy with the simple USB2 hook-up. That way you can use it for back-up purposes, transferring files, most anything you can use a hard drive for. All with the convenience of haveing a portable drive available at any moment. The only inconvenience is that you have a large portable drive instead of small. A very nice way of utilizing that extra drive. And, if you get a hot swap type enclosure, you can use most all your extra hard drives as backup
Use a combo external box
by redco - 5/12/06 10:36 AM In reply to: 5/12/06 Adding old hard drive to new PC with only SATA connections by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have been using external drive boxe's for several years now.
I have found the external box from Bytecc to be the best and most reliable, combo Fire Wire & USB 2.0.
1. Built-in power supply.
2. Connect to just about any PC or MAC (UGH).
3. Transportable from one PC to another.
4. Box can be used for a 5 1/4 CD Drive/writer or a Hard Drive.
5. Search the Webb and you'll find one for about $35.00, complete with Fire Wire, USB 2.0 and Power Cable. (also the Fire Wire/USB patch {on CD Rom}that MicroShaft left out of Windows 98 SE, so that more people would buy Windows 98 Mellinium}.
Beginner's tutorial on external enclosures
by egooch - 5/12/06 10:46 AM In reply to: 5/12/06 Adding old hard drive to new PC with only SATA connections by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Most of you guys already know how to work with external enclosures and how to set them up, but if you're reading this and you're someone that has never done this or is worried that it's too complicated, check out my photo tutorial where I put a CD burner in an external case.
http://www.ericgooch.com/tutorials/pages/enclosure.htm
-E
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