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Games & gear: Wii vs. Xbox360 vs. PS3
Wii vs. Xbox360 vs. PS3
by Brad24 - 5/10/06 8:07 AMWhich one would you buy and why? I'll tell you right now, the only company that will be getting my money is Nintendo. Why would I want to pay 400 bucks for an Xbox with better graphics? Why would I want to pay 600 bucks for a PS2 with better graphics, and half-baked Wii-like controls? Granted the Blu-Ray could be important to those who want it but I personally dont care much about Blu-Ray so Why should I spend THREE TIMES AS MUCH on the PS3?! Plus, what good games does Xbox have besides Halo - and I mean FUN to play GOOD games - not many. PS3 has a bunch of pretty good ones but 600 bucks is too expensive for most consumers to justify spending in my opinion. Plus, the games for PS3 will very likely be more expensive considering they are Blu-Ray. . . I want something completely different and fun to play - Imagine the control you could have over first person shooters with the Wii! And sweet nintendo-only titles such as Zelda: Twilight Princess (or should I say Twiiliight) and Super Mario Galaxy - how can you resist! And I completely forgot about being able to play all the nintendo classics from back on the original NES and SNES. . . Hopefully they will be cheap.
Ha, I kinda sound like a Nintendo spokesperson but it just seems like it has a lot of potential - I was massively dissappointed with the gamecube (But then again I done own any of the really great games so I'll have to pick some) but I am putting my money on Nintendo this round: Who agrees with me? If you dont, which would you be most likely to buy and why?
Was this written by a 12 year old???!?!?
by sly2596 - 5/10/06 10:00 AM In reply to: Wii vs. Xbox360 vs. PS3 by Brad24I'll tell you one thing. The Wii can do motion-sensory. The 360 can play Halo. And the PS3 can DO EVERYTHING!
Don't be blowen away by the $600 price point- you're getting the Wii, a Blu-Ray player, a Ps2, a PsOne, a DVD player, a CD Player, an Internet service (free), and your classic DualShock2 controller complete with motion-sensory. Seriously, watch this guy play Warhawk with the controller--and ask e3 players who actually "play it!" and see their reaction.
Yes yes the wii will have zelda, and Halo will again try to save the world.
Was that second post written by a 12 year old?!?!?!?!?
by ctrobins - 5/10/06 2:56 PM In reply to: Was this written by a 12 year old???!?!? by sly2596Obviously, the second poster has no idea of economics and marketing. While I agree that having more functionality than the Wii will be an important selling point, price is a very important issue to many people. The plain fact of the matter is that come the Holiday Season, parents will go to Toys R Us, and see three game systems. And I believe that they will be more inclined to purchase Wii after looking at the price tag. Not only will the games be cheaper than PS3 (no blu-ray) but the entire system is hundreds of dollars cheaper.
Ok- so PS3 is a blu-ray player. That will attract a lot of people, but with the DVD format war, this may actually halt people from going all in and buying a PS3 because of the blu-ray player. (This problem was not an issue with the DVD-PS2 selling point) Plus, what percentage of the population can actually utilize an HDTV with their current TV? I think its only like 25%. Ok, its a DVD player. Well, there are great DVDs players you can buy for $40 now. And those play CDs too. There's a free internet service? Ummm... who cares? Everyone has internet already. It plays PS1 and PS2 games? That is pending the fact that you already own them. Nintendo will be offering the ability to download their former games onto the Wii. I don't know the details, but I suspect that its NES, SNES, N64 and Gamecube all in one!
Just a week ago, I said that Wii's new remote could be its downfall, because it is too different. But after seeing all the things its used for- too a MUCH larger extent than Sony- I am very impressed. I'll admit- Nintendo took a risk by not focusing on making Wii a powerhorse and multi-functional machine. But by focusing their efforts on the gaming experience, they certainly have a lot to show for it.
Thank you, I agree
by Brad24 - 5/10/06 4:02 PM In reply to: Was that second post written by a 12 year old?!?!?!?!? by ctrobinsI had a pretty long post but my comp lagged out and lost connection so I lost it. Basically, thank you, I was gonna retaliate before but didnt want to hinder the discussion. You have some excelleng points. About the Wii controller only, they are also releasing a standard controller although I have heard that it is only for old games (from N64, NES, SNES etc. - Oh, by the way, they are also releasing some Sega games and a random-old-system-that-I-dont-know's games) according to the Wii website. Also, for those of you that havent checked out the video on it on this site yet, you should - it just may convince you that the Wii is a worthy competitor!
Virtual Console
by jal199 - 5/11/06 1:05 PM In reply to: Thank you, I agree by Brad24The Virtual Console supports:
NES
SNES
N64
Genesis (Mega Drive)
Turbo Grafix-16
Turbo Grafix-16 CD
I wouldn't be surprised if the Sega Master system would be added to the list, and maybe even saturn games.
Price points seem to be around the 2-3$ for nes, $5 for SNES, $10 for 64. I'd assume that Sega and Hudson (TG-16 people) will price thier games along these same lines.
The Wii also played Gamecube game, but not through the virtual console (meaning you just stick the disc in).
Wii controller not descisive
by ajbaer - 5/18/06 9:04 PM In reply to: Thank you, I agree by Brad24Nintendo can't just use the fact it has a unique controller to be able to compete with the giants, sony and nintendo. I think just focusing on a controller while neglecting the heart and soul of their console will be nintendo's downfall in the coming console wars. While an interesting idea, I believe it is just Nintendo's poor excuse for not having the confidence and means to deliver a true next-gen gaming experience. Besides, if the wii controller really proves to be that special, sony and microsoft could very easily steal the idea and design a different controller for some of their games. While the wii may be great for nintendo die hard fans and loyalists out there, it is not a choice for the more serious gamer.
Wii will win
by gswatson - 7/9/06 10:39 AM In reply to: Wii controller not descisive by ajbaerFirstly, nintendo has always, and still is one of the giants. The ds is out selling the psp by a massive amount. You also seem to have messed up the idea of consoles in your head. You say it's not focussing on the heart and soul of a console. What are you talking about. Nintendo has more soul than playstation and microsoft put together. You also say that if the controler is that good then the ps3 and xbox360 will steal it... The playstation has stolen it... already. It's made a terrible remake of their controller. Also, nintendo ''using the fact it has a unique controller to be able to compete with the giants'' is ridiculous. Do you actually have ANY idea what you're talking about. Nintendo has been focusing on it's audience, gameplay, accessability, price and even graphics, which is the only thing sony and microsoft really care about.
Sure? In a way . . .. wait . . . no not really.
by tnsiouxfalls - 8/3/06 11:27 AM In reply to: Wii will win by gswatsonWii will win with the kids who will play along with their cousiins when they come along, sometimes accompanied by their soccer moms.
"Nintendo has more soul than playstation and microsoft put together." - dude if youre a fanboy then go to nintendo.com
Face it the Wii is the least prefered so-called "next-gen" system for gamers and for the teenager and twenties age groups (which are the most marketable groups).
If you are a fanboy, a preschooler at heart, a preschooler or a beginer then go for it.
Nintendo= A honda civic covered with a body kit to hide its true amateur *abilities*
Xbox 360= A decent luxury car pushed by some extra features (Halo?)
PS3= flying car? Ferrari? with this system whole new worlds of possibilities will open up.
******************************************************* and Ds is not outselling PSP in north america > check the stats.**************************************
not all can afford the best and compromise or accept evolution so thats why they fight for what they can (in your case, Wii).
All I can say for it is "Meh".
I know a lot of people and not one of them is overly excited (or excited for that matter) by the release of the Wii.
Nintendo will always remain a classic and I, like many gamers have passed through their era but now times are changing and Nintendo has had its time.
Hmmmmmm, somehow i dont think so
by taylorshaylor - 8/26/06 2:27 AM In reply to: Sure? In a way . . .. wait . . . no not really. by tnsiouxfallsThe only thing i can see in that that constitutes to a reasonable arguement is "i know a lot of people and none are excited about the wii," which is a pretty poor arguement in itself.
You dont seem very smart. For start you said "fanboy." You really need a life mate. Its an opinion. Secondly, your arguement that none of the people u know are excited doesn't put me off in the slightest. Somehow i doubt ur friends are intellects.
All i know (i already own a 360 and love it) is that I am very inclined to go out and buy a wii aswell. I love nintendo's games, and the new console looks a lot of fun. I think you may find a lot of people have similar thinking, not wanting to go out and spend near a thousand dollars on a CONSOLE.
I think the fact that people could afford 2 consoles, one with great graphics, and one innovative one, for the same price as a ps3 will end up leaving ps3 in the dirt. Who needs blu-ray anyway?! and 360 has already proven that a dvd is definatly enough storage space if a game is designed right. I can't help but feel ps3 owners will be waiting a loooong time to get their hands on games, and i've already heard its a ***** to develop games for. toodlepip
Developing ps3 games is a *****
by mcgwombs - 9/14/06 9:57 AM In reply to: Hmmmmmm, somehow i dont think so by taylorshaylorThe development kits for Wii are available to approved developers at a cost of little more than JP¥200,000 (approx. US$1,768, c.2006). By comparison, the PlayStation 2 development kits cost US$20,000 at the console's launch, while those for the first PlayStation cost US$4,000–US$5,000 at launch.
Obviously developers will be more inclined to work with Nintendo, I already have a computer and a DVD player, I don't need that in my gaming system, get back to the basics and focus on what gaming is all about. $600 for a PS3?! dude...ur getting a Dell.
Why so offensive?
by Anti-Fanboy - 10/3/06 8:33 PM In reply to: Hmmmmmm, somehow i dont think so by taylorshaylorIntelect? well we can't really tell that from the post.
And what do you say about fanboys?
I don't like them do you?
I think you need a life "mate" because that dumb word -fanboy - will mean if the opinion which you are reading is biased and innacurate VS well rounded and consistent to what is offered by each system.
And also if you overly state that you basically don't care about his friends not making that big of a fuss over P Wii why do you complain "OHH but is an opinion". What he gave is just that - it also gives you a breif insight to what will likely be the entirety of post pubecent gamers looking among these 3 consoles.
Cheers!
How old are you?
by Al Kapone - 9/14/06 8:54 PM In reply to: Sure? In a way . . .. wait . . . no not really. by tnsiouxfallsFirst off, your analogy of how nintendo is the honda civic of consoles is pretty accurate. Nintendo has stated that the wii is not a ''Next Gen'' system, it is a ''New Gen'' system. Nintendo has opted to put more emphasis on the gameplay and fun factor of their games than graphical power. How many Honda Civics do you see every day? Why is it that Honda owns Acura and Volkswagon owns Audi and Nissan owns Infiniti and so on? Who will make more money, the company who sells millions at $250 (profitably) or the company who sells less consoles at $600 (with a loss on each console)?
It seems pretty clear that Nintendo has made some pretty smart moves for once and has a really good chance of taking the lead. All Playstation has is their name. Americans are so brainwashed by the media that they may still buy many PS3's, but sony has to make money somehow, and once the prices of games start rocketing, Sony is in for quite a fight for survival.
My predictions: Wii will sell millions. Playstation will die off slowly.
Judging from your writting!
by Nintenfan - 9/22/06 9:42 AM In reply to: Sure? In a way . . .. wait . . . no not really. by tnsiouxfallsYou hinted in your message that nintendo was meant for "pre-schoolers at heart". Well, judging from your writing ability and train of thought,is it safe to assume that you will be getting a Wii for yourself? Or maybe you should just stick with candy land and Shoots and Ladders. You wouldn't want to overwork yourself to much!
wii will not win
by hermandic - 8/5/06 6:55 PM In reply to: Wii will win by gswatsonfirst of all nintendo isnt trying to win the console race thing, they just want to satisfy custormes and give them what they want, sure the wii has an incredibly unique controller which i completely love, not only is it really awesome motion sensoring, but when you get mad at your friend in multi player and he kills you at like a remake of some 007 goldeneye game(not a crappy one like rogue agent) you can choke them with the wire that keeps the 2 pieces together....BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHASHDFHASDHFUASODFHIASUDHF... ok im bored lol but anyways u get my point... i think i have a point eh what ever
Wii's got more going for it than just the controller
by ackmondual - 7/14/06 11:56 AM In reply to: Wii controller not descisive by ajbaerIt's like saying PS3 is all riding on the fact that it has an integrated BR player or great graphics while the 360 has HD support or came out the earliest of the 3. Not true. PS3 also has alot of other functions. Its past experience with the PS2 and library of games is also nice to know when the PS3 comes out. The 360 has some Media Center PC like functions as well as other extras (XB Live, DL contents, and other fun network stuff)
There's ninteno's magic for making games. That can't be beat
As for other stuff about the Wii (yeah, I preferred the name Revolution)...
It's got backwards emulator support for previous Nintendo and non-Nin games. I personally am not wild about this, but I've been wrong before. For example, the Nintendo classics/remakes for GBA sounded dumb to me. I sure as hell wouldn't buy games I already own on NES, SNES, and GB/C, but my observations of how well they're selling (e.g. ports of NES hits like Ice Climber and Zelda, and remakes like Super Mario Advance), have me standing corrected. The nex gen gamers never owned SNES and GB, so they'll want it now for their GBA.
I figured when online music purchasing took off, I figured ppl would still just DL them for free elsewhere, but places like iTunes are still high up there. I believe DL-ing older system games from Nintendo should take off as well. Ppl will clamor for the convenience of playing games from 6 different systems on a single machine rather than having to hook up 6 different machines and having to get up to change cartridges/discs. With both services, people don't mind to pay for this. They don't need to mess with DL-ing ROMs and setting up emulators but have the plus that all this is done legally.
Case in point, while it's argued that CD players, DVD players, PS1, and PS2s are all pretty cheap and kinda pointless, the flipside is also true. Some ppl will also appreciate having everything on one machine. Not everyone will buy the idea of playing DVDs on a PS3, but it's there for the rest.
And the 360. I've seen this at a friend's house. Nice graphics, but it's waay too similar to a PC. U can DL movie trailers, vid clips, content, classic/special arcade games, while having Media Center PC like functions. It sounds pointless, but some ppl will like it
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