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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 5/5/06 Removing a partition on a hard drive

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 5/8/06 4:40 PM
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Post 76 of 88

Why not use it?

by brit0n - 5/7/06 7:58 PM In reply to: VAIO Partitioning Help Request by Zaitech001

In my opinion, this thread has overwhelmingly advocated the use of multiple partitions. Why not use the nearly empty partition? That is assuming that it isn't actually full of restore information etc.

You can save all your photographs, movies, music etc to the other drive while your programs sit quietly in your C:\ drive. When you save a file, browse through the folders to choose where to save, but browse instead to the other drive (it will be shown under My Computer).

If you want/need to save things to your My Documents, My Pictures etc folders - known as "Special Folders", you can tell Windows to look on the other drive to find them. There are programs you can buy which will move them (see other posts hereabouts) or you can download the Microsoft FREE Utility TweakUI for XP (or whichever Windows version you use - make sure you use the right one!). This was developed by Microsoft developers for their own use (or for fun or something). Go to the Microsoft site and look for Powertoys (for XP = http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx then scroll down to the description and download link TweakUI). Trust me, they are not toys! This one manipulates the Windows registry for you, safely and without you studying it.

Before you run it, open a Windows Explorer window for each of your special folders you want to move. Leave those windows open. (This will save you browsing through "C:\Documents and Settings" etc later.)

When you run TweakUI, choose My Computer - Drives. Then scroll the box to whichever special folders you wish to move and relocate them on your other drive (partition). When that is done, open a corresponding Explorer window for each special folder. Now all you have to do is to Move all the contents of the folders from the old special folders to the new special folder.

After that, check any reasonably complex software which does not use standard folder names and change the option for your "My Documents" folder etc. Most software should be using the special folders by referring to the Windows Registry - for instance it won't even use "C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents" without first looking in the registry to find out where your "My Documents" folder is located. And if the software is written correctly and DOES that, it will find your new location with all your moved files. How? Because by telling TweakUI that you wanted to relocate your Special Folder, it edited the Registry for you.

Some here have a way of doing the moves from My Documents Properties, but as that doesn't work on my version of Windows, I am assuming they have a utility to do it.

Hope this helps with at least part of the problem.

Post 77 of 88

One partition hard disks most handy

by PeteVfi - 5/6/06 3:49 PM In reply to: 5/5/06 Removing a partition on a hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi!

Lately I have been dealing mostly with one partition hard disks, and so far not been facing any fatal problems with this concept (knock on the wood ...).

I'd count on the most easy handling of a single partitioned first hard disk C:\ with all the OS, programs and the basic, or even extensive, user data, and would accept another partition first on another hard disk possibly needed/used for working and storing space ...

Nowadays the disks are so fast and high performing, and even cheap, so, there is no use struggling with a detailed fine tuning of the usage of a single disk. And, every critical disk can quickly/easily be copied/backed-up periodically in full bit-by-bit to another similar one, and, rather to be sure enough, even on two full clone copy disks ...

I have been using Partition Commander v8.0/9.0 successfully for this for my PC support clients already some two years, doing also maybe some 100 of different types of disk/partition/file system rearrangements incl. multi->single partitioning cases etc. Of course, all this needs having the hard disk ''in hands'', especially out of the Laptop.


Best regards,

Pete V.

Post 78 of 88

Why would you want to?

by celliott - 5/6/06 6:40 PM In reply to: 5/5/06 Removing a partition on a hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Why would you want to get rid of the D: drive? Why not just use it?

I have logical drives C: thru W:; I could not get by without them because the different drives serve as keys for where everything is, e.g., L: is for library, almost all programs are on F:, downloads on I:, developer stuff on H:, etc., etc.

Post 79 of 88

Which way would be the best ...

by PeteVfi - 5/7/06 1:10 AM In reply to: Why would you want to? by celliott

Hi!

OK, everyone has his favourite habits and will get used to use them fluently ...

How about having to do the drives' administration, defragging, back-ups etc. 20-fold ... how about changing the drive or Explorer window several times during a session ... how about installing program by mistake on a wrong drive i.e. default C:\Program Files ... etc. etc.

I would do the file group separations exactly the same way by "main" folders on C:\ root, and get rid of the 20-fold drive things and possibilities for installation etc. small mistakes and changings from here to there and back a.s.o. ...


Best regards,

Pete V.

Post 80 of 88

Vaio partition

by Genie51 - 5/7/06 10:54 AM In reply to: 5/5/06 Removing a partition on a hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I also have a VAIO that I purchased awhile back (4 years ago) and was very annoyed that SONY partitioned it like that. I ck'd with my buds at BB and they told me about Partition Magic. I bought it and used it and was very happy that I did. The program worked very well and I highly recommend it (tho I won't buy another VAIO, because of all the other problems I had with it.)
Genie
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Post 81 of 88

PM

by SmileyAgin - 5/7/06 2:05 PM In reply to: 5/5/06 Removing a partition on a hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I just bought a cd that will do what pm does and more...called pc beginner. Ever hear of it? Was only 30 dollars.

Post 82 of 88

Not quite.....

by brit0n - 5/7/06 6:50 PM In reply to: PM by SmileyAgin

It looks like an interesting disk with many useful utilities many of which are open source and many are freeware. But the bundle is a good one. However, you said "that will do what pm does and more". PC Beginner includes Disk Genius which seems to be a great piece of software. However, there are several important things that PM can do which Disk Genius can't do.

For example, NTFS partitions can be created and, I think, deleted. Can it resize them or move them? I think not. Sorry if I am wrong, but as many people now have entire systems which ONLY have NTFS partitions, it is perhaps best that they check before finding they like PC Beginner but that they now need some other software as well.

Post 83 of 88

5/7/06 REMOVING A PARTITION ON A HARD DRIVE

by ctaiwo - 5/8/06 1:57 AM In reply to: 5/5/06 Removing a partition on a hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

ACRONIS DISK DIRECTOR SUITE WILL SET YOU BACK FOR ALMOST NOTHING, TRY THIS SOFTWARE, IT EASY TO USE, NO FUSE O FUZZY WITHOUT LOSING ANY DATA, IT'S INSTRUCTION IS STRAIGHT FORWARD & IN PLAIN ENGLISH

I USED TO USE PARTITION MAGIC BUT IF YOU FORGET TO ACTIVATE YOUR PARTITION C: BEFORE RESTARTING THE COMPUTER THEN YOU ARE GONE..... YOU LOSE IT WILL ACTIVE THE PARTITION JUST CREATED.....HEY... YOU MIGHT REGRET DONE SO.

GOOD LUCK
CHRISTOPHER

Post 84 of 88

partition question

by treacleted - 5/8/06 4:42 AM In reply to: 5/5/06 Removing a partition on a hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

do you know why, when you defrag your computer, i have a new hp a1330n, 2 months old, when i went to defrag, my C DRIVE, only will go to 13pct, instead of 15, and i cant seem to get an answer from HP, when you defrag, it shows you need to be at 15 pct to run efficiently????? thank you very much for your help

Post 85 of 88

Defragging good anytime

by PeteVfi - 5/8/06 9:40 AM In reply to: partition question by treacleted

Hi!

Yes, defragging would be good anytime, from some 5% level up to 50% or more, I'll do it on any machine I'm at any time, even some 5-10 times subsequently to get the fragmentation well off. Anyway, I hope you will not ever reach the high 50+% level, because your machine would quite sure already got too sluggish ...

Another thing, please, don't fill up your disk too much over 75% of it's total space, because the defragmentation level of the disk and files would increase tremendously with a too less free working space.

And one more thing to consider, also system files, especially the PageFile, will also get defragmented and slow down your machine throughput, I have seen it been fragmented even to 2000+ fragments, and of course, on a very slow crawling machine ... It wouldn't got defragged by the regular Defrag Tools. Please, for this purpose check/download the PageDefrag Tool from the www.sysinternals.com pages, which will do it's defrag job upon the next boot-up just before the PageFile will be taken/reserved into System's usage.


Best regards,

Pete V.

Post 86 of 88

Defrag 15%

by darrenforster99 - 5/14/06 1:23 AM In reply to: partition question by treacleted

The 15% problem with Defrag is the fact that the computer needs at least 15% free space on your hard disk to defragment properly. You can do it with less but it's not recommended (and most of the time doesn't do a proper job), as it needs that 15% free to move around some of the big files. Try clearing out some of the stuff you've got lying around on the computer (like games you never use or documents you never open or programs you never run). Then right click on the drive you want to defrag in My Computer and click properties. Make sure the pie-chart is at least 15% pink and retry again, or free space is at least 15% this will depend on the size of your hard drive e.g.

20Gb = 3Gb
40Gb = 6Gb
80Gb = 12Gb
120Gb = 18Gb
250Gb = 37.5Gb

Just looking on the internet for your computer model and as long as you didn't ask for a different hard drive when you bought it, it should be a 250Gb Hard drive, so you'll probably need to make sure you have 37.5Gb free on your drive before defragmenting.

Post 87 of 88

reply to removing a partition........

by lin2it1 - 5/16/06 2:35 PM In reply to: 5/5/06 Removing a partition on a hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

i would have moved files from c to d.

Post 88 of 88

yeah but which ones and how!

by brit0n - 5/16/06 6:25 PM In reply to: reply to removing a partition........ by lin2it1

But that is what a lot of the posts by those of us who recommend using multiple partitions has been about. And it could go on forever as there are now as many combinations of possibilities and methods for just about anything one wants to do on computers as there are days in a lifetime.

And that is what Personal Computing was always meant to be so long may it go on!

Now, where did I put my Y drive and why? :OD

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