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PC hardware: 7800 gt vs. 7900gt

by Morgalu - 5/4/06 9:41 PM
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7800 gt vs. 7900gt

by Morgalu - 5/4/06 9:41 PM

which one is better?

Post 2 of 14

well

by justanothernoob - 5/4/06 10:53 PM In reply to: 7800 gt vs. 7900gt by Morgalu

the 7900 GT of course but not by much but in the end both are great cards and will get you playing todays top games.

Nick

Post 3 of 14

7900gt

by ramarc - 5/5/06 7:14 AM In reply to: 7800 gt vs. 7900gt by Morgalu

the 7900gt is almost as fast as a 7800gtx.

Post 4 of 14

If I were you...

by HKPK_2005 - 5/5/06 7:23 AM In reply to: 7900gt by ramarc

I wouldn't get either of those tow, because I would wait for Windows Vista and Direct X 10 to come out later this year or two. Once Direct X 10 comes out, the current high end graphic cards are going to become obsolete, and you're not gonna play the games the way that it's meant to be played...

Post 5 of 14

To the OP-

by WhyFi - 5/6/06 6:57 AM In reply to: If I were you... by HKPK_2005

If you need it now, get it now. In a market like computer hardware, there are constant advances and waiting for the next big thing would mean complete and unending paralysis. If you already have a fairly good card and you're a patient person, by all means, wait. But if your current set-up is keeping you from playing the games that you want to play (or keeping you from running them the way that you'd like 'em to run) go get what you want. Don't wait a year or two.

Post 6 of 14

And besides...

by HKPK_2005 - 5/6/06 12:14 PM In reply to: To the OP- by WhyFi

It's almost over for the Cirect X 9 era, and in a blink of an eye, Direct X 10 comes out, and all the games would look entirely different, so just save your money and hold on to your patience because some killer graphics cards are on their way...

Post 7 of 14

(NT) You mean DirectX9

by nathanpsz2 - 5/6/06 12:53 PM In reply to: And besides... by HKPK_2005

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And then DX11, DX12... DX1138

by WhyFi - 5/6/06 2:10 PM In reply to: And besides... by HKPK_2005

The way graphics cards are advancing, ANY card is going to be bettered in less than a year, meaning that it's "State of the Art" lifespan is going to be less than a year no matter when you buy. Unless you're still living on an allowance, why wait a year to buy something that you'll probably upgrade within a year after you buy it anyway?

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Most games released right after Vista will be DX10/9 able

by agentsanderson - 5/6/06 7:47 PM In reply to: And then DX11, DX12... DX1138 by WhyFi

First of all the guy saying Dx9 is reaching its end, bla bla bla hasn't been doing alot of reading. I agree with WhyFi. First of Vista is scheduled to be released in January, and is the only operating system that will utilize DX10. After vista is released gaming developers are not going to start making DX10 exclusive games immedietly. Games released will be both Dx10/9 compatible for quite a while until developers are sure that the majority of consumers use Vista and DX10 PC's and they will not be losing any profit because Dx10 is not widely used at the time.

This has already been confirmed in games like Crysis, if you haven't heard of it just use google. Crysis is a new game set to be released under DX9/10 after Vista's release. The screens you've seen of this game were all taken using DX9 hardware. The developer stated that Crysis on Dx9 would look 3 generations better than Far Cry, and that the Dx10 version would look only 1 generation better than the DX9 version. Unreal Tournament 07 us also a DX9/10 game as gameplay was shown using a DX9 card. The simple fact is that all users are not going to switch to Vista as soon as it debuts. It takes time for people to make the switch. Game developers know this. The same thing happened when Dx9 was released, It took quite a while for developers to switch to DX9 exclusive titles. As you can see games like HL2, even Cod 2 are DX 7, and DX 8 compatible.

Theres no such thing as future proofing a PC, It would be stupid to run out and buy the first Dx10 card on the market. the price would certainly be high, but within a few monthes newer Dx10 cards with better performance would be released. And what you bought would start to struggle in new games after a while, forcing you to upgrade. When Dx9 came out people rushed to get 6800 Ultras, Gt's, even the 7800GTX. All these cards were $500+ at their time of debut. Now look, the 6800 line of cards can't handle most games out on high settings. (Fear, Oblivion, COD2,AOE3, etc). There are people that bought the 7800GTX for $550. Now the 7900GT which is slightly better is selling at $289. Remember you will always be forced to upgrade hardware, as new games that will be too much for the current GPU's will always come out. ATI, and Nvidia will release tons of DX10 cards, with each one being better than teh last and having new features.

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(NT) 7900GT. 7900 is bigger than 7800, so it must be better

by nathanpsz2 - 5/5/06 2:08 PM In reply to: 7800 gt vs. 7900gt by Morgalu

Post 11 of 14

that cant be true

by Morgalu - 5/5/06 5:31 PM In reply to: (NT) 7900GT. 7900 is bigger than 7800, so it must be better by nathanpsz2

bigger isnt necessarily better. the 7900's are based on 90-nanometer die size, so its physically smaller than the 7800's. so is everyone confirming the 7900gt is better than not only the 7800gt, but 7800gtx as well?

Post 12 of 14

I was just making a joke...

by nathanpsz2 - 5/6/06 4:43 AM In reply to: that cant be true by Morgalu

...the 7900GT performs as well or better than the 7800GTX. I already knew about the die shrink; I was just trying to sound like some of the n00bs on these forums.

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7900GT has better performance than both 7800GTX and 7800GT

by agentsanderson - 5/6/06 7:53 PM In reply to: I was just making a joke... by nathanpsz2

Yes, the 7900GT is way better than the 7800GT especially in new games at higher resolutions. It has 24 pxel pipelines compared to the 7800GT's 20, it also has higher clockspeeds. Now on to the 7800GTX. The 7900GT performs better than the 7800GTX. They both have the same number of pixel pipelines, but due to the shrinked die of the 7900GT, speeds have increased and this offer a 5-7% performance boost over the 7800GTX. The 7900GT runs cooler, is quiter, and hase far better overclockability due to the die shrinkage. The 7900GT when overclocked will increase teh performance over the 7800GTX by quite a margin, even though not that much. Higher clock speeds are the reason for this. In simple terms the 7900GT is better at stock speeds than both the 7800GTX and 7800GT. Its also cheap, and prices are as low as $289 now.

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hmm

by rick550 - 5/11/06 1:12 AM In reply to: 7900GT has better performance than both 7800GTX and 7800GT by agentsanderson

the 7900gt performs better than the 7800gtx 256mb. because of the higher clock speeds, plus you can overclock them much higher, and theyll still run at lower temps :D

the 7800gtx 512 might be able to outperform the 7900gt in some benchmarks...because of the extra memory, but im not exactly sure.

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