Home audio & video: Please help: Pioneer pdp-5060 vs pdp-505mx (pro505mx)
Any more news on your pdp 505mx?
by beachcomber2 - 5/6/06 7:56 PM In reply to: Received PDP-505MX Today by willyjamesDoes your Pro 505mx have the elite glass?
Would you buy the PDP 5060hd or the PRO 505mx, if you had the opportunity to do it again?
Did you send in your manufactures warranty to Pioneer or have you tried to register with pioneer online?
Did you receive your extended warranty?
Did it come with any video cards?
I have not received my Pro 505mx and I am very confused about this model and what makes it such a great deal?
Would I be making a mistake by accepting delivery of the Pro 505MX that pricemad.com says is the best deal out there?
Any comments or details about the PRO 505MX would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
PDP-505MX Do it again?
by willyjames - 5/6/06 11:46 PM In reply to: Any more news on your pdp 505mx? by beachcomber2I would buy it again primarily because of the price ($2,699). The picture is as good as any other pioneer I have seen. Pioneer will not honor the warranty. Pricemad has not sent my MACK warranty so I will be forced to contest that with my charge card. I did speak with the regional director of Pioneer in LA last week. She told me that if its already installed and performing the likelyhood of a defect or failure is nill. It would have cost me $7,000 at Ultimate Electronics for a similar plasma so I'm rolling the dice and would again. If you can buy one of these for $2,699 and $250 shipping you are way ahead of the game.
The're Everywhere
by itchief - 5/3/06 9:27 PM In reply to: Pioneer 5050mx vs 5060 by bookwormtraceyNow, don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure that the 505 series Pioneer Plasmas are great displays, particularly when fitted with the Key Digital Explorer card with 4 HDMI inputs etc. etc. It does seem odd that hardly anyone in the States had ever heard of this model until recently, and now suddenly every internet seller out there has a back room full of them. It's like someone found an old abandoned warehouse somewhere in Brazil full of the things, bought em for 500 bucks apiece and is flooding the market with them. I found the following on the Brit AV Forum (Hope they don't mind). They're already looking forward to the 700 series of industrials and were still being fed the 500s! Cheers, Jon
General Model/Purchase Questions
Q: When did these models come out?
A: Pioneer series 5 (435/505) released in UK in Sept 2004. Pioneer series 6 (436/506) released in Sept 2005. The 436 RXE/SXE were released in early 2006.
Q: When are the next models coming out?
A: Upcoming:
* Pioneer PDP-5000EX: There is a £5,000 new 50" coming out around July with a 1920x1080 native resolution at 720p, 1080i, and 1080p. It will be display only (i.e. no built in tuner). The official press release is here.
* PDP-507HX (1365x768) - stand model with integral connections and tuners (no seperate box) - details here. Expected in the UK in October 2006.
* PDP-427HX (1024x768) - stand model with integral connections and tuners (no seperate box) - details here. Expected in the UK in October 2006.
* It is expected that there will be a 42"/43" model supporting 1080p natively coming in mid-2007.
PDP-505MX
by willyjames - 4/11/06 8:55 PM In reply to: Please help: Pioneer pdp-5060 vs pdp-505mx (pro505mx) by pahrumptomI would not be worried. Its awesome. Can be purchased from pricemad.com for $2,699 as PRO-505MX (PRO-KIT) Item 5673. Price says $5,999 but they sold to me and my sister for $2,699. I have not recieved mine yet (ordered today) but my sister received hers from pricemad and it is amazing. You will be happy. If you are ordering dial 800-281-3075, Ext 217 and Steve will answer. He is in the know. Good luck!
price for pro 505mx
by beachcomber2 - 5/1/06 10:59 AM In reply to: PDP-505MX by willyjamesI ordered the PDP 5060 HD from pricemad.com and I was called by a sales rep. (Jack ex. 215) who recommended the PRO 505MX.
He told me that it had newer technology, the elite glass,better resolution and the 1yr manufacturers warranty. The price I paid $3999 with shipping, tilt wall mount, 2 video cards and 3yr warranty seems much higher than what you paid. I called and questioned the price and was told that the $2699 did not include the video cards which can cost an additional $199 for the basic card plus $899 for the card that allows for the HD cable to function. Since all this technolgy stuff is new to me I have no idea if I just paid $749 more for the same thing you got. What do you think?
Price I paid for 505MX
by tony.harding - 5/1/06 2:11 PM In reply to: price for pro 505mx by beachcomber2After reading everyone's post, I think I just might go back to the original PDP-5060HD TV I was going to purchase in the first place. According to what you paid, it sounds like you got a better deal than I did, but that other people still got a better deal than us. I paid $3988 for just the TV and a warranty, no extra stuff, like the wall mount or video cards. As far as the warranty goes, like someone had already mentioned, it sounds like they haggle on that price. I was charged $399, but someone else was only charged $199. What's up with that? For the same television. And something does seem suspicious that PriceMad keeps trying to change your mind on purchasing the 505MX instead of what you were calling to buy. Besides, there really is no information anywhere online about this particular model TV. I hope everything works out for everyone!!
PDP-505MX The $2,699 Monitor
by willyjames - 5/1/06 7:37 PM In reply to: price for pro 505mx by beachcomber2Well I am convinced of one thing. We were all sold a line of bull to some degree. I'm one of the lower price people so I'm lucky I suppose. FYI, my monitor came in a mint factory sealed box. Monitor is new in excellent shape. It has 5 inputs but only three are of any use to me (Component, Composite/S video and DVI-D). I am using all three. The component (red/blue/green) gives the sharpest brightest picture, 3-D amaizing, which registers 720p at FH44.9/VH59.95. The DVI-D gens up an excellent image at 1280 X 720 and FH44.9/VH59.95. S Video is very good for DVD and non HD stations. I have my HD cable connected and it is amazing. ESPN HD has me hooked. Regarding the PDP-505MX, I really believe the unit is the same quality as the PDP-5060 but lacks the media box with all of the connections (which I wish I had). I am happy with my 505MX but is is not as good as it was advertised to be. FYI I cannot add or subtract computer boards with my monitor. What I have today is what I'll have years from now. I would urge any new buyer to purchase the PDP-505CMX as it has functionality to change and expand (505MX does not). I'm curious how the higher priced 505MXs are configured. Does anyone have the PRO Kit? I was told by Pricemad that I do but I know I do not. I have a very nice monitor that was discontinued before it was released. Do You have more inputs and better resolution? Please advise.
Outputs on PDP-505MX
by tony.harding - 5/2/06 6:18 AM In reply to: PDP-505MX The $2,699 Monitor by willyjamesWell, I called back again to try and change my TV back to my original selection, the PDP-5060HD, but was convinced by ANOTHER salesman..."Why do you want to do that? You are getting a better TV at the best price." Supposedly this TV is comparable to the Pioneer Elite Plasma. Who knows? As far as the ProKit, I have no idea what is even supposed to be included in that, because it doesn't say online. I did not need speakers or a wall mount. So I suppose I am getting the ProKit minus those two things. I did find out that I am getting two power boards or mother boards, whatever they're called. The model numbers are PDA-5004 and TVP-1000. I was told both of these were Pioneer brand, but the TVP-1000 is made by some company called Aurora. He said this TV is better because you have the outputs built in instead of external, so it "saves" some room. And that this TV has the same panel and filter system as the Elite series. However, one salesman said this was HDMI, and then when we called back, another said, no, it was NOT HDMI, that it is DVI, but since we won't be using the speakers on the monitor -- we didn't purchase any -- and only be using surround sound, then this is even better. Because DVI enhances video, not sound. I just got very worried after reading all of these posts on CNET. I regretfully think we are going to take a chance with the 505MX and hope for the best. It just seems that the salesmen don't want to take no for an answer, and I am not the most technological person, so I don't know what to believe.
As far as why they are calling consumers after the fact to try and sell these 505MXs, it's because they can offer a warranty on these monitors that Pioneer will honor. But Pioneer will not honor any warranty on any of their other monitors on PriceMad, because they are not an authorized dealer. Also, this is such a better TV, that they are recommending to everyone they should just buy this one, because it's a better bang for your buck!!! And, lastly, what I can remember, it's because Pioneer is only allowing PriceMad and a select few other retailers sell this TV in the States. That they have an agreement with them. This is an international model supposedly that was just introduced in Vegas last year, and that that's why there is not much supposedly about this model online. There were 252 items I found on 505MX and over 350,000 on 5060HD. That's what scares me. Perhaps I should just cancel my entire order and go somewhere else. I just placed the order last night, and they said they were probably shipping it out last night, but it was 6:00 p.m. their time already. I don't know about that. Any other suggestions from ANYONE??? This is a great buy, but still a lot of money to spend on something that might be total garbage.
This is not a small money to take risks
by Pebri10 - 5/2/06 10:31 AM In reply to: Outputs on PDP-505MX by tony.hardingHello Everyone,
I got my TV two weeks after my order. I did not open that yet because my technician was not available to install. I am going to have it installed on this Friday. I paid $4597 for the entire unit( Item#5673) that includes three years warranty and shipping charges. The advertisement on the pricemad for PDP-505MX is displayed as “50 Inch WXGA Plasma Display HDTV Pioneer-PRO505MX Pro Kit”. But the display on the box I got shows as just PDP-505MX.
Pioneer has two classes of plasma TV’s first one is ELITE models starts with prefix PRO (like PRO1130HD) and the other model is Pioneer model which starts with PDP( like PDP 5060). I was actually planning to buy ELITE PRO 1130 model, but they said it was not covered by warranty and advised me to go for 505MX saying that it is PRO505MX pro Kit. They told me that it is far superior than Elite 1130 model and warranty is covered on that. I was convinced over the phone and bought the 505MX for $4597/-( without side speakers) against the price $5999/- displayed on the pricemad.
To my understanding the model name displayed for item#5673 is not existing any where as PRO505MX . This clearly indicates something is fishy with this model. When I called pricemad and enquire about the price variations, they say that others are just buying ordinary PDP 505M monitors not the complete PROKIT. I really don’t know what this means.
I make an appeal to all those who bought this TV and seek justice. Lets exchange our contact information and find out the real facts about this model. Please send mails to rexhogan2003@yahoo.com. After all this is not a small investment to try risks. We really didn’t take risks but we believed people.
I will know my TV results by next Friday. Until then lets share our experiences.
Canceling your PDP-505MX
by willyjames - 5/2/06 7:21 PM In reply to: Outputs on PDP-505MX by tony.hardingYou will not be disapointed with the picture or performance from the PDP-505MX. I agree with pricemad that this is the BIG bang for the buck monitor. I am certain the 505MX was produced in very limited quantities and were never in the general population for retail at any level. I purchased a component video switch box (Philips and JVC have offerings for under $50) so now I have 3 component inputs rather than the single component input that is standard on the 505MX (my only true disapointment with this set). If I had it to do over I would still buy this monitor but would have purchased the MACK extended warranty directly from MACK and would have saved $100.
Why to compromise?...not because of price
by Pebri10 - 5/3/06 12:00 AM In reply to: Canceling your PDP-505MX by willyjamesLets hope for the best. But i dont understand why you are the only one on the earth trying to support 505MX taking your sister's example.
I would be happy if things are straight and simple. I was planning to buy ELITE 1130 HDTV after my careful research.You wouldnot understand the pain and tension when your investment is at risk. The plasma TV is not just for me....it is for my family. I dont want imagine the disappointment they face if anything goes wrong this. We dont want to suffer those waiting times for repairs, returns, shippings and etc., Infact this is the first big lesson for me on the internet.
Supporting the PDP-505MX
by willyjames - 5/3/06 5:16 AM In reply to: Why to compromise?...not because of price by Pebri10I was not trying to be insensitive to your situation. They switched you from what you wanted to purchase. Not good business. I am not supporting what Pricemad did to you. My expectations were much lower than yours. I was just looking for a nice HD monitor and I believe I have it. It is not the best and not as good as it was advertised to me (10000 to 1 contrast ratio and 549 illion colors no way) but it is here and installed. I do think you will like it when you run your HD signal to it. Its beautiful. I am citing my sister’s and my personal experience. We each purchased and are happy with the PDP-505MX.
electronic novice
by bigpun334 - 5/3/06 6:22 AM In reply to: Supporting the PDP-505MX by willyjamesi was very interested to see the comments you guys made on this TV. i am an electonics novice and had the exact same experience as ohters did with the pdp505 and pricemad. they called me as well, and changed my mind to this tv. i paid $4499 for the pro kit which included cables mack 3 year warranty and wall mount. my tv came in perfect brand new condition, and was on time.
i am a bit nervous that this does not have the hdmi hook up. am i correct assuming that the $50 component box will allow other hook ups? Please elaborate if you can. This is my first plasma, and maybe my first internet purchase that i got duped on....
i may call pricemad and see what they can do on the price.
HDMI on PDP505MX
by tony.harding - 5/3/06 7:47 AM In reply to: electronic novice by bigpun334According to Jimmy, a sales rep at PriceMad, the supposed ProKit is NOT HDMI!!!! It is DVI, which is supposedly a better choice because I am not using the optional TV speakers, and I am just going to be hooking up through a surround sound. I did not get the optional speakers. He said that the DVI enhances the picture/video and not the sound. But he said because I am not even using the TV speakers, that this makes no difference, because it wouldn't be an improvement on the surround sound speakers anyway. Perhaps you could call and find out what their explanation is on this, and then post it on here to see if they are relatively the same. And this better be an HDTV like they are claiming; otherwise, I will be furious!!
I agree with Rex on this, though, about everyone exchanging email addresses in case at some future date some sort of legal remedy needs to brought about, so long as PriceMad is not a defunct company by that time. It is just unfortunate that there is abslutely NO information anywhere online except for these salesmen at PriceMad going on and on about how wonderful this TV is. It just seems suspicious to me that they would call a consumer after purchasing a $6,000 TV to try and change their mind to only a $4,000 sale. I did read on one of the earlier posts that perhaps there is a higher profit margin on the 505MX. Let's hope that's the reason they are promoting the TV and not because it is leftover junk from Pioneer that they made a deal with PriceMad to get rid of. The only thing holding me to keep the 505MX is the four-year warranty; otherwise, if the salesmen would have let me, I would've went back to my original selection.
About the contrast ratio
by tony.harding - 5/3/06 7:51 AM In reply to: Supporting the PDP-505MX by willyjamesThis TV is capable of a 10,000:1 ratio, but you have to pay someone who knows what they are doing to come out and tweek your system. I think that's the same situation with the billions of colors. Someone said something about the Geeks at Best Buy can do it for a price. I just don't know how much. But, of course, the salesmen at PriceMad didn't tell me that, they only said that it had 10,000:1 contrast ratio and blah-blah-blah. He should have said it was CAPABLE but NOT INCLUDED!!!! It seems that they are dicking everyone around on the price, too. It might just be that they determine what to charge you on the 505MX based upon your original TV selection that they sway you from purchasing. So the lower cost your original selection was, the better your deal; the higher, it's a worse deal. Uggghhh!!!
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