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WHY WOULD ANYBODY BUY A 1ST GENERATION 1080p HDTV
by BONSPEED - 4/8/06 2:45 PMthe 1st generation of 1080p hdtv hitting the market is creating a lot of hype. these unit promise higher picture quality, but with their inabilty to "recieve" a 1080p signal must provide it by upconversion. the bandwith reqiurements to broadcast 1080p is so demanding, it will no doubt make 1080p boardcasting a pipe dream. even with the anticipation of hd dvd players (sony, toshiba) being released this year, 1080p material will still be a long way down the road. the main problem is the current HDMI 1.1 technology is unable to carry 1080p. toshiba's hd dvd player is suspected to be only 1080i capable, with the possibilty of being upgraded (via software or hardware) later. sony is hoping to incorporate the new HDMI 1.3 (release date approx. 6/06) connections with their blueray and ps3 systems. the bottom line, with hd dvd players being released without a set format and with HDMI 1.3 technology not ready for release, why would anybody buy a 1080p hdtv that might become obsolete within a year? P.S. looks like yor going to need to go back to work to upgrade/replace to HDMI 1.3 equipment, stew. 
Etenity
by Larry Pigeon - 4/8/06 3:20 PM In reply to: WHY WOULD ANYBODY BUY A 1ST GENERATION 1080p HDTV by BONSPEEDThat's how long I'll have to wait if I keep waiting for the next best technology. Something better will always be on the horizon. Easier to contemplate eternity if you aready have HD but not so easy for us HD wannabies. So if I can't wait forever and want a 60ish screen size and upconversion to 1080p makes that large screen picture look better and many people seem to be thrilled with their non accepting 1080p brand new almost obsolete hdtvs?? But since you brought it up do you know when the new models will come out?
Eternity!
by Larry Pigeon - 4/8/06 3:54 PM In reply to: WHY WOULD ANYBODY BUY A 1ST GENERATION 1080p HDTV by BONSPEEDThat's why I need a 60" sreen. I can't proof read my own typing.
HI SPEEDO
by stewart norrie - 4/8/06 4:34 PM In reply to: WHY WOULD ANYBODY BUY A 1ST GENERATION 1080p HDTV by BONSPEEDWatching Doscovery h.d. in 1080I with my new 72" toshiba is jawdropping.So I figure blue ray should look as good. My question is could 1080P possibly look better than 1080I. Only the future can tell, Also when I bought my monster I bought it because of picture quality, I really didn" care about the set having 1080P pwerformance have a nice weekend stewart
Why?
by carter250 - 4/8/06 5:00 PM In reply to: WHY WOULD ANYBODY BUY A 1ST GENERATION 1080p HDTV by BONSPEEDTo end up paying WAYYY too much money for something that's not perfected?
Keith
Http://www.eHDMI.com
Explain
by Larry Pigeon - 4/8/06 6:11 PM In reply to: Why? by carter250Explain perfect. I don't understand perfect.
again, 1080p is just a number game
by masterying01 - 4/8/06 11:55 PM In reply to: WHY WOULD ANYBODY BUY A 1ST GENERATION 1080p HDTV by BONSPEEDand companies have figured out that numbers (specifications) sell products. thats why you see all these $100 1000watts HTIB's out there.
Yes
by Larry Pigeon - 4/9/06 6:19 AM In reply to: again, 1080p is just a number game by masterying01You are correct. These companies are in buisness to make a dollar. Our dollars. Cynicism about the numbers is most likely appropriate.I think you guys are making a good point. I don't want to be manipulated either. On the other hand I can't build a tv in my garage. I want to buy a 60ish screen tv in the near future and the decision to buy a less expensive 720p or a possibly better 1080p is a real real one for me. I will continue to listen to what you guys have to say.
Go 1080p LCoS, the difference is beautiful!!
by chaneyfamily - 4/10/06 10:17 AM In reply to: Yes by Larry PigeonIf it's in your budget, LCoS, or Liquid Crystal on Silicon is what you have to have. This is basically very advanced LCD rear projection technology. Sony and JVC are making these tv's for relatively cheap as compared to what kind of money this technology was comanding a couple years ago. Sony's SXRD is only manufactured in the 1080p resolution at 1920x1080 which really takes advantage of 1080 broadcasts (720p sets do not). Sony also uses this exact same technology in a projector that retails for $10,000. JVC makes two versions of their LCoS, one 720p and one 1080p. Both of these tv's 1080p tv's cannot accept 1080p signals however, you will notice a major difference over your 720p DLP or LCD. The fact is that a 1080p tv contains approx. 3 times as many pixels as a 720p tv. When compairing side by side there is a major difference, especially when utilizing LCoS technology while watching 1080i broadcasts. Basically what I'm saying is there is a major difference between the two formats and there is a distinguishable difference to someone who isn't looking through coke bottle glasses. Go buy a LCoS tv, you'll be awe struck.
SONY LCOS
by Larry Pigeon - 4/10/06 10:37 AM In reply to: Go 1080p LCoS, the difference is beautiful!! by chaneyfamilyThe reviews of Sony LCOS owners and statements like yours make me want to tear out and rebuild my entertainment center cabinet to accomodate the inexplicable side mount speakers and spend the big bucks for the 60". It could happen.
Do it...........
by kena10 - 4/26/06 8:50 AM In reply to: SONY LCOS by Larry PigeonThe picture is abolutely gorgeous. I should know, I have one 
Do it or wait....
by yogibm1 - 5/1/06 9:26 PM In reply to: SONY LCOS by Larry PigeonSony has the same type of TV coming out in the winter that doesn't have the side mount speakers...so I heard... and will be 30%thinner. I have the previous model year of the TV that you are talking about and I love it.
Hacksaw
by Larry Pigeon - 4/10/06 11:18 AM In reply to: Go 1080p LCoS, the difference is beautiful!! by chaneyfamilyBy the way I was at a high end HT store the other day and a salesperson told me about selling an 60" SXRD to a man who after having it delivered cut the speakers off!
50" SXRD - AWESOME is an understatement!
by vicbrasil - 4/29/06 7:36 AM In reply to: Go 1080p LCoS, the difference is beautiful!! by chaneyfamilyI bought the Sony 50" SXRD for the picture, not for the 1080p. The picture was so much better than other 50". The technology is super bright, clear, and saturated. Makes even the off-the-air regular broadcast better. For anyone that questions try to see Equator from VOOM, maybe a show like Eye over England (Itlay, France) or see the Spice Market in Istanbul. AWESOME is an understatement.
PUTTING THE WAGON IN FRONT OF THE HORSE
by BONSPEED - 4/9/06 4:43 PM In reply to: WHY WOULD ANYBODY BUY A 1ST GENERATION 1080p HDTV by BONSPEEDi dont believe its a coincident that 1080p hdtvs are being introduce the same year as hd dvd players. hdmi cables, like 1080p tvs, have been over hyped despite being considered the standard to come. also, with hdmi 1.3 warming up in the bullpen and causing concern from both hd dvd player contenders, the current wave of 1080p tvs seems very vulnerable to need to be upgraded sooner then later. i dont care to buy 1st generation models because they tend to be pricey and manufactors rarely get right the 1st time out. how well they will work in the real world remains to be seen. manufactors like to use the numbers game to confuse consumers, but not all of it worthless. when was the last time somebody talked about an edtv? its an interesting time to wait and see for those who already have a system in place and maybe just a case of bad timing for newcomers. in the end, nobody knows for certain. personally, im still waiting for sed tvs to hit the market.
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