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Community weekly poll: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits?

by Marc Bennett Moderator - 4/11/06 2:27 PM
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Post 91 of 122

And Your Point Is ... ?

by crescentdave - 4/12/06 12:24 AM In reply to: Years of frustration with Windows by Phoenix3

I know so little about PC's it frees me to believe everything I write?

I work with both platforms. Both have their strong and not-so strong points. Most of the major programs in photography, layout, video and audio have comparable counterparts. (I can hear the screams of applets in the distance ... :)

I will take issue with your "concerns" about Apple's switch to Intel. It's one of the greatest moves Job has made. FINALLY Apple has become competitive, speed wise. Just check out the figures.

Boot Camp or the new Parallels Workstation 2.1 provide more choices for buyers of Apple systems. This can't help but increase Apple market share.

Post 92 of 122

It won't affect my buying habits

by electfew - 4/12/06 12:16 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

I just purchased an iMac Mini, and am waiting for it to arrive. Last week my Gateway motherboard died, and the timing was just right for this new development from Apple, where if I want to, can put in WinXP. I didn't buy it for this reason however; I bought it for many others. Am sick and tired of viruses, worms, hacking, etc., and always having to defragment my hardrive, as well as getting foreign customer service (which is stupid for something so complicated as a computer problem, when they don't understand you, nor you them). Also mostly all Windows computer makers are now so cheap, that they don't include the original restore discs. Made our own, and they weren't right (along with the D drive, or Restore drive), so had to order them and pay for them, when they should have been included at the start! This is a ripoff from them, not to include the CD's which are only a few cents to them, but $22 to me or you, from HP. Apple got the best ratings in Consumer Reports, and now can integrate the Windows stuff into it. I don't know if I want to buy XP Prof. to add to it or not. I have the upgrade, and if I like Safari, might just use that instead. Peace of mind, to enjoy being online without the stress of making sure you're on top of all the programs that keep you safe, is something I'm looking forward to. Have no proof, but have the suspicion that Microsoft is in cahoots with all the software makers that make up viruses, worms, etc. so they all get a cut of the pie. More and more holes, so that you have to upgrade and download, or buy more programs to fix their mistakes. It seems like a racket to me!

Post 93 of 122

The Divide widens

by MrPhysio - 4/12/06 2:08 AM In reply to: It won't affect my buying habits by electfew

It appears that confirmed Windows users and techs like their platform as the ability to understand the myriad problems entitles them to feel superior when fixing the computers of the less well informed and skilled. PC users on the Windows platform are at the constant mercy of tech departments that only exist because the machines they use are so poorly designed, and break down so frequently due to hardware and software problems.
Macs traditionally had higher prices due to higher spec components that were matched (for the most part) to the machines. PC machines could be cobbled together on price, without the reliability, eventually costing more to run due to repairs or earlier replacement.
I have used Macs since 1994, still own all of them, and they all still work!. I recently purchased a PC (October 2005) to run a very high end piece of CAD software involving rendering, but despite having a very talented tech person, the machine has not run correctly until 7 days ago. Six months of problems - which have negated the need for the machine in the first place, as the project requiring the software is now finished. What a waste! Never had this problem with the MAC, over 12 years. Not happy. By the way, the problem was with an intermittent fault on the video card - not a cheap one either.
MrPhysio

Post 94 of 122

Video Card Problem and You Blame the OS

by crescentdave - 4/12/06 2:11 AM In reply to: The Divide widens by MrPhysio

Nuff said. Next?

Post 95 of 122

Good grief

by Claptrap - 4/12/06 2:57 PM In reply to: The Divide widens by MrPhysio

Your techie might be talented but not very experienced to suspect a hardware problem. It's not that uncommon, by the way, I tried six computer repair shops who couldn't find a problem with my friend's PC: having done a twelve day beginner's computer building course, I suspected the power suply, tried another one and voila, my friend's computer has been working ever since! I am a little technophobic and at the time knew even less about computers, instead I had common sense and no assumptions.

And by the way, I still use my 486 with DOS and Windows 3.11 (you can run Win95 in them but my hardware isn't powerful enough), that's pre-Pentium machines to you young and MAC users. It works as well as when it was new, only it isn't designed to run the latest software, which is why people generally buy new machines - not because their old ones break down.

The reason why MACs work so well is that there is only one company making them. This divergence has allowed the optimisation between hard- and software, but this means no competition with other companies and so steeper prices.

Of course, innovation is also on the shoulders of a one company. Apple has done well to realise it cannot compete with PC's power and chaper prices, including software, brought by convergence and competition (recently firece between AMD and Intel, and between graphics card manufacturers ) and focused on creating another nieche market - the iPod. But with copycats, one such innovation isn't enough to keep a company afloat for long, hence Steve Jobs has finaly come round to Intel Processors. (If he had more sense, he would have chosen AMD for stability of its processors but he must have felt safer with Intel - money talks even in MAC world) Afterall, the pc has long been able to do anything that MAC could and more. Too many kids know how to use PCs and even troubleshoot them. At the same time, less and less users cause problems in the first place (it only seems so because the number of users have grown rapidly). I haven't seen any youngster recently, who has used the CD-drive tray as a cup holder. ;) Modern PCs don't seem to carsh so easily either, or have I always been just lucky?

As for me: yes, I would like to get my head around MAC (I find them much harder to use than PCs), and have considered buying one. But the machines are stupidly expensive compared to PCs, not many second-hand ones appear in my local paper and all the repair shops refuse to deal with MACs, not only because they are expensive to repair but few know how to fix them. If I could get away by buying the OS only, and install it into a machine I know how to do a basic repairs, I definetely would buy one. And then - I already have a linux disk for MAC machines. :)

Post 96 of 122

It wont...

by spyker3292 - 4/12/06 4:45 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

I already use macs its just a good new feature

Post 97 of 122

Never Windows on Mac

by vcrnjac - 4/12/06 5:10 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

I am a new Mac user at home after being dissapointed with Windows on Pcs. I am still working on a PC in my office (because I do not have any other choice) so I can really compare the feeling. Like many other, I spent few hours a day to maintain my PC at home instead of using it and I'm a middle aged lady who does not have enough time and knowledge for that. Then I swithched to Mac, although I hardly afforded it, and it was a renaissance for me - everything user friendly, easy and smooth, virus-free. Now when I saw the news I was a bit disappointed. I do not like the idea of Intel processor at all and especially not with Windows on it! And we all know the ways of how Microsoft ecourages people to by its software! I would still like to think that Mac is a safe Mac Os island in the sea of Windows sharks.
Vandolina

Post 98 of 122

ThinkPad user no Mac!

by DRFilippone - 4/12/06 5:41 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

Good news for Mac fans that they can run windows Xp
But for me there is no reason to consider Mac I've been a loyal user of IBM ThinkPad's and I like my
New Lenovo ThinkPad Z60M with Xp Red Hat Dual Boot

Post 99 of 122

(NT) I will buy APPLE hardware.. and run both OS

by Gakada - 4/12/06 5:51 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

Post 100 of 122

So will I

by davideo - 4/12/06 8:39 AM In reply to: (NT) I will buy APPLE hardware.. and run both OS by Gakada

But I will worry about security and stay off the internet when running Windows.

Post 101 of 122

Mac/Window

by georgebitar - 4/12/06 6:46 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

Get in line at Compusa

Post 102 of 122

I'm so Tired of Reboot, Opps!!! I Meant XP

by RedMarks - 4/12/06 7:00 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

Yea for me XP has become a constant pain in my backside, and I was ready to jump ship with the new Apples. I was just waiting for the software to get ported to the new chip-set. But being able to use all the software that I've spent thousands of dollars on really helps in making this choice a reality. So for me it's going to be so long Wintel and hello Apple.

Post 103 of 122

The good news for me, would to have Mac OS on a PC!

by joaven - 4/12/06 7:54 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

Why would you want to pay more for the hardware just run carappy Windows OS?
Have the good OS on any Intel machine, that's the goal!

Post 104 of 122

Windows on a Mac

by davideo - 4/12/06 8:33 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

As if we needed one, just another great reason to own a Mac. When the percentages of Mac sales to PC sales are quoted, does anyone wonder how many of the PCs are actually still usable and productive? The PC users that I know are constantly and repeatedly out of service for one reason or another.

Post 105 of 122

How will Macs with Intel affect?

by Custom.Labeller - 4/12/06 8:37 AM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett Moderator

The real question is: When will PCs ever be powerful enough to run Mac software? Seems that would be a logical extension to this. If the Mac, by using Intel, is able to run WinXP, shouldn't WinXP, using Intel, be able to run MacOS? Or is the Windows platform so powerful to prevent that from ever happening? As a former Amiga owner and user both at home and work - I hate to see another platform self-destruct.

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