Community weekly poll: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits?
- 4/11/06 2:27 PM
Its not windows, so its bad
by Redhats Q - 4/11/06 7:30 PM In reply to: look by jayhelmanOK I see it now. the pronblem is that you expect OSX to copy windows in how it does things. Mac OS does everthing you say it cant. But it doesn't do it the same way as windows. but thats often to its benefit. I find a new mac user needs one day to fall in love with the UI. we do supply a 2 button mouse, but other than that its standard, Training takes half an hour.
Actually its harder to do lots of things macs do in windows not the other way around. Try to properly close a flash drive in windows.. not easy. On the mac a simple right click - or CTRL-Click for the one button mouse and eject or drag the icon to trash and it ejects.
Its not windows, it will never try to be windows. But if its so bad why are all the features being copied into windows vista??
You are free to hate it, but at least keep it real
Actually it's easier to get to things with Macs
by grtgrfx - 4/12/06 12:17 AM In reply to: look by jayhelmanFirst, you can use keyboard commands like up-arrow, down-arrow, etc., to navigate folders. Second, You can hold the option key (alt key equivalent) to automatically close a window when opening another one. Third, you can Command-click on the window title to open it's parent. Finally, the twirl-down folder icons in Mac Finder windows are such a beneficial extension of the file-viewing process that I wonder what MS has been doing without them all these years.
Add in the stupid default file listings in open/save dialog boxes that you have to modify every damn time you work in a program and the fact that you can't even use the no-brainer command-O to open files from the desktop or shift-click to open multiple files at once, and you can see that there's not one good aspect of finding things on a Windows system.
OSX work speed
by mx477 - 5/24/06 12:45 AM In reply to: Actually it's easier to get to things with Macs by grtgrfxPlus of course there's Spotlight. You can search through all of the files on your hard drive in a few seconds.
Quicksilver is a brilliant Mac add-on which makes it not only quick to find things but take action on them. With just a few keypresses I can search for a Word document, convert it to PDF and mail the PDF to a friend, all without having to open Word or my mail program!
The Reason
by wuzelwazel - 4/11/06 7:42 PM In reply to: I will never switch to a Mac... by John.Wilkinson
...Is that Apple is finally recognizing that they don't have superiority in market share. There are programs that aren't available for Mac OS X. You're right when you say that Windows is the source of many a headache and that the OS is the main reason to buy a Mac (the hardware isn't superior to what you CAN buy in the PC world if you have the money, but Apple has always catered to the high-end), but there are a lot of programs that people "need" to run that aren't available on Mac (although there are similar ones available for most purposes).
Simply put: Apple's computers come OS 10.5 will be able to run more programs natively than any strictly Windows machine out there. That's another point for Apple in the 'Pro' column.
My expectation is that most of the old time Mac users (such as myself) may install but will rarely use the Windows XP capability of the new machines. I might want to install XP for a few of the games, but I'm going to spend all of my time on the web, e-mail and in creative applications in Mac OS X.
100 % agree!
by newbit - 4/12/06 5:17 PM In reply to: The Reason by wuzelwazelGooood points: I agree 100 % on what you stated!
Don't worry about switching to Mac's...say goodby to them
by Anthillacres - 4/11/06 9:03 PM In reply to: I will never switch to a Mac... by John.Wilkinson
Mac's have been at times the cutting edge of computer hardware and software. Now they have become just an expensive PC that also runs a version of UNIX. How about Apple porting X to PC's and giving us a choice of OS's?
Give away the best benefit ???
by Redhats Q - 4/11/06 9:13 PM In reply to: Don't worry about switching to Mac's...say goodby to them by AnthillacresThe whole benefit of this move is that anyone who buys mac hardware gets it all. If he lets every PC user install OSX he gets headaches trying to support all the drivers for all the silly hardware out there and les mac sales.
Nope OSX, Linux , bsd,... and XP will be only on Macs, and PC's will be windows and anything except OSX
Apple is a HARDWARE company... and its happy to stay that way. The whole reason MAcs work so well is that the hardware is standard and while that means less choices in some area's it also means a lot les headaches getting the stuff to work.
I once thought apple should sell OSX, but now I see the strategy I have to say its very sound. Apple want to sell Mac HARDWARE. Even if it means some sales of XP for Microsoft, it means much more for Apple.
Macs are good but......
by Phazer500 - 4/12/06 5:55 AM In reply to: I will never switch to a Mac... by John.Wilkinson
Macs are good but if you look at the entire 'computing' world as a pie chart you'll see that Macs only make-up a tiny sliver of that pie. I'm in PC support for a living and personally, I would never switch to a Mac. I'm not frustrated with Windows because I have some computer savvy. I don't see the need to switch at all. About the only way I would ever think of getting a Mac is if there were AMD based Macs out there. An Athlon64 based Mac may sound inviting.
I'm not anti Microsoft or anti Apple but I am anti Intel!!!
Windows on Mac
by tom McCarty - 4/12/06 10:00 AM In reply to: I will never switch to a Mac... by John.Wilkinson
An argument against buying a Mac, with nothing supporting the reason is nutty. It must be to see their name in a post or more likely a bias nutured over years from lack of knowledge. Like politics or religeon. Just let the trolls go on and complain about lost elections, inferior races and whatever.
What I see is different. I have owned both platforms. One reason why I will buy the intel is business reality. I am in real estate and many, like the nay sayers above, have chosen the PC over the mac to keep jobs in the repair sector.. job security so to speak. Macs require little IT work
And that is why our MLS is Windows, Explorer 6 req'd. So I use VPC now and they just keep their jobs. They will admit it to me but not to the ignorati who manage the board.
additional partitions
by Custom.Labeller - 4/12/06 2:46 PM In reply to: I will never switch to a Mac... by John.Wilkinson
I have never added an OS to windoze but have had the very unpleasant experience of adding partitions. If anything goes wrong, which it will, you still have to boot the entire computer and rebuild everything. Why can't they build one that you can have a second partition that you can just switch over to should something go wrong with the first and then just copy everything from that one back to the original without it screwing up all links to everything else - windows has never learned how to do what I was doing 19 years ago on the Amiga - a simple OS crash was an irritant, not a week long project of rebuilding and losing half your work after the frustration as well and heaven knows how many programs at the same time. But then I guess that's what all the mirror programs are for is to make up for windows inadequacies.
The worse blind is who do not want to see!
by newbit - 4/12/06 5:08 PM In reply to: I will never switch to a Mac... by John.Wilkinson
There is many reasons to run Windows in a Mac: the first one is that who has a Mac has the best combination hw+sw available on the planet... So running Windows is just a nice plus to run some program you can't run in a Mac. And speaking of value and money, now with an Intel Mac you have TWO computer in one! So you pay just 1/2 of the price to run ANY program you want... Undestand??
MAC WITH WINDOWS
by sylviane109 - 4/11/06 6:28 PM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett
BEST THING I HAVE HEARD.NOW THE BEST WARRANTY AND HELP NEEDED TO REPAIR.APPLE IS NOW THE BEST BUY
I need Windows software, but have no need for Mac software.
by TerryT - 4/11/06 7:23 PM In reply to: MAC WITH WINDOWS by sylviane109In my industry (marketing research), all of the decent software is Windows based, or Unix/Linux in a few high end cases. As good as the Mac OS might be for some purposes, the best software for statistical analysis, survey cross-tabulation, computer assisted interviewing, complex Web surveys, PDA surveys, etc. is just not available for the Mac.
So why would I pay extra for a limited selection of moderate performing Intel hardware that Macs offer? Any regular reader knows that even the slower AMD systems blow away Intel's best.
Perhaps if the price were comparable, I might then try a Mac laptop for its presentation graphics. But Windows graphics have closed that gap, if not eliminated any Mac advantage.
Right ON !!
by vern8 - 4/11/06 7:35 PM In reply to: I need Windows software, but have no need for Mac software. by TerryTYou have always been able to get "More Bang for the Buck" with a PC. Even an old XT (at 8 Meg)put Apple to shame and at half the price. That is why Apple's market share has been diminishing for the last 17 years.
If windows meets your needs, Stick with it.
by Redhats Q - 4/11/06 9:22 PM In reply to: Right ON !! by vern8Good for you
I too will keep some cheep celerons and the like for silly dumb tasks, but as a professional my hadware is my life, every machine down costs me big bucks. so I have the best hardware and it works really really hard.
Windows Machines just don't cut the grade in the long term. Macs have yet to let me down, Unless the Smashed LCD on the old ibook counts). Even then we booted the bos in target mode, recovered the entire hard drive, Connected it to an external monitor and its still in use.
But some work needs a windows PC and its for me that steve has done this, now I dont need the PC, my mac can do that work too.
For me it means the money that would have brought the slow celeron D box can now buy a firewire hard drive for my mac instead.
If you never buy a mac I'll be happy. But now I dont need to buy a PC. I'll never have to buy another pc. When they die, a Mac can take their place. I too will be happy
And since I won't need those window boxes, the suppliers can sell them to you on special, and you can save even more.
Its win win N'est Pas
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