Community weekly poll: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits?
- 4/11/06 2:27 PM
(NT) Did you know what to look for ??
by Redhats Q - 4/11/06 10:24 PM In reply to: Upgrade? by avanabsMotherboards - like why change them ???
Chips - Any intel core duo chip will do --- couldn't you find them ????
Memory -- Thats missing ??? Dont you upgrade ram ??
Cards, any PCI express card will work in the poeerpc range
The Imac and the Mac mini are harder, but then agai they are laptops, I suppose you regularly soup them up
But I doubt you would know how to service a mac anyway
Theres so little need for us to do anything to them.
But if you want such a box its called a powermac and they are easy to upgrade
Here you go (Google search .25 seconds)
by ythe1300 - 4/12/06 10:43 AM In reply to: Upgrade? by avanabshttp://www.micromac.com/
Have fun looking at all the upgrades you can do to keep a mac alive for far past it's life cycle or
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=ppc+upgrades+mac&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Can't upgrade a mac my ***.
another
by ythe1300 - 4/12/06 10:45 AM In reply to: Here you go (Google search .25 seconds) by ythe1300http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/by_system/powermac_g4_st.html
What are you talking about?
by brandon.kelly - 4/11/06 7:00 PM In reply to: Apple has (a very few) users brainwashed by avanabsI switched to the Mac a couple years ago, and every single application I used on my Windows PC either also has a Mac version, or there is another program for Macs that does the same thing (and in most cases, does it better). These include Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Flash, MS Office, Cisco VPN, Firefox and Gaim.
Applications
by avanabs - 4/11/06 7:29 PM In reply to: What are you talking about? by brandon.kellyI run about 50 applications, 80% of which do not exist for the MAC at all. I'm glad you can get by on a handful...running a MAC, that's a good thing. I also note that both on-line and in my local computer stores, the MAC software section is tiny compared to the PC section.
I do remember when companies like Adobe came out on the MAC first...but that's long gone. Now the MAC releases lag the PC releases by months at best, and in many cases they've simply dropped the appliations entirely. Lack of market share drives those of us int he software industry to ignore the negligible market represented by the MAC. It's too bad, but very real.
Maybe specialized software stick to windows
by rtsphoto - 4/11/06 7:43 PM In reply to: Applications by avanabsBut any office apps like word processing or home apps are still made for Mac. Not exactly a handful. MORE I do understand market share. If i had a product for something different like a mainframe emulator or a program to run a sports stadium lights i would develop it for windows, it would be hard enough to do 1 O/S.
Btw mac users are growing. Especially at home. And Adobe just try to download Lightroom for the pc. you can't yet, but I've had it for months. anything that has to do with video or photgraphy any design graphic software will alway be made for Mac because Mac is far superior for these applications. If I was a gamer i would never buy a Mac, its terrible for that.
50 Apps?
by Eldor Luedtke - 4/12/06 7:10 AM In reply to: Applications by avanabs>I run about 50 applications, 80% of which do not exist for the MAC at all.
You must be a VERY busy person with no time for a life, OR, a 13 year old kid trying to impress us.
Funny I'm writing this answer on a Mac with Mac software
by rtsphoto - 4/11/06 7:24 PM In reply to: Apple has (a very few) users brainwashed by avanabsAnd it never crashes. The GUi is better than windows and it never gets a blue screen of death, I wish i could run OSX on a pc i would love to build a new pc with that on it. I can get Ms office for Apple why does MS waste their time. i can get anything I need you should get your story correct.
MS office for mac is better and has more features than office for windows
HOW COME? Why does adobe make software for apple first???? TRY AGAIN BECAUSE YOUR WAY OFF BASE.
A ''very few brainwashed Mac'' users?
by Batchain - 4/12/06 5:43 AM In reply to: Apple has (a very few) users brainwashed by avanabsavernabs said:''The amazing thing is that anyone still buys computers from Apple at all...clearly marketing overcomes good sense. A great OS with nothing to run on it is really silly.''
If what you said were true I'd have a whole lot less software and a big, fat chunk of change still in my pocket! The days of ''Windows Only'' software are long, long gone and only a very few exceptions still remain.
*My* complaint it is that I'll be so curious about having dual-boot ''Mac/Win'' OSes on a ''Macintel'' machine that I'm not at all *brainwashed* by anybody, but I'm still just foolish enough to go for it and dump more cash into the hands of bazillion dollar corporations instead of stuffing it in a matress like I should.
(And to think really I believed the days of the ''Mac/PC Wars'' were finally over. Wrong! Here comes that same ol' blsht once again! Grrrr!)
I no longer ned the seperate windows Laptop
by Redhats Q - 4/11/06 6:37 PM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett
The intel mac was my 3rd mac, and the first one I brought new. Compare that to about 15 windows purchases. In fact I have 7 windows machines close to me right now. compared to 3 macs.
I love the MAC everything about the experience is better period! I do mean everything! BUT and its a killer I am tech. I write assembler code for Microprocessors in embedded systems, The software only runs on windows, I work on hardware developed with windows only software to programme it. With no way to use the Mac I have to keep buying PC's so I can get work done. I tried Virtual PC but it was too slow to take it seriously, and cost as mush as a cheap windows laptop.
NO MORE. No more bad hardware, No more buggy driver issues, no more rebooting all the time, except for when my mac is running windows. then once the work tasks are done its back to OSX for e-mail, internet, and all the tasks the mac can do and does better.
I will still have windows, and still use windows, but with MAC hardware I have the best of both worlds.
Yes my next laptop will be a mac. And I have budgeted for many more macs comming into the office. We have tested and are testing both BootCamp and Parallels VT engine. We already don't need to buy anymore PC's and have changed some planned purchases from Generic PC's to apple macs because the dollars spent on the MAC get us more per buck than the PC suppliers can match. In fact most of our users will get a performance increase as a result.
As for PC hardware, yep some will stay, but for most of the work, it'll be done on a MAC, And thats a done deal.
I'ld be stupid to do otherwise
Mac
by bekkieokie - 4/11/06 6:42 PM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett
I remember when I wanted to buy my first computer, Apple was very EXPENSESIVE, and wouldn't come down on their prices. My first computer was Trash 80. The Apple people loved they computer more then selling them in the 80s'. People that uses Apple probably now was probably able to afford the computer from the beginning. Since I couldn't, my path was lead to the IBM more reasonable prices. I am into graphics and can afford an Apple now, and would probably be better off, but I am so use to IBM and am to old to learn a new format. Becky
I won't go Mac
by mgjstowe - 4/11/06 6:46 PM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett
They're overpriced, of course; but that could change.
Although in the early days (mid-80s), I greatly admired many things that Apple had done, and welcomed the competition coming after IBM, Digital, etc., I got into a situation where I had to use a Mac to make a living. Well, that wasn't too bad, and I learned which button to push and all. But what disturbed me was the snob culture that I encountered. In those days, the Mac was not a machine, it was a religion, and, as my old buddy Tom Jefferson wrote a few years back, "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
Exaggerated perhaps, but that's how I see it. And that snobbery is still around today.
Yes it is...
by SpiderJ - 4/11/06 7:18 PM In reply to: I won't go Mac by mgjstoweIn BOTH camps
Intel versus Virtual PC
by pippobird - 4/11/06 6:55 PM In reply to: How will Macs with Intel affect your buying habits? by Marc Bennett
The upside for the Intel approach is that I suspect that XP and applications will run at normal PC speeds. Virtual PC is slow even on the most powerful Macs. We use it consistently for Access and Project.
The downside is that you can have Virtual PC running Windows Apps along with Mac running Mac Apps with ease of copying and pasting between Mac Apps and Windows Apps. Having to exit MACOS and boot into XP will be a pain to say the least.
Along with some of the port deficiencies of the Intel Mac (compared with the Power Macs eg firewire) our company is not yet ready to make a switch.
Try parallel
by Redhats Q - 4/11/06 7:17 PM In reply to: Intel versus Virtual PC by pippobirdYep bootcamp is at full native speed, we have it in test here now Also if you have an intel mac (get a mini if you must) the processor has virtualisation technology in it. Parallel has software that replaces Virtual PC and runs at near hardware speed.
Its still in beta, but the final release will be Virtual PC with a huge speed bump. We are very impressed, but are waiting to see the USB support and sound sorted.
It might yet make a beliver out of you
We are trying it, and even our Linux guys are loving it.
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