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Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Win XP on MAC By Apple called Boot Camp

by rechellesharp - 4/5/06 6:04 AM
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Post 16 of 55

sell or support Windows?

by Ravensblood - 4/5/06 9:29 AM In reply to: We are holding our noses, but if you insist. by toulouse2k

Technically they aren't doing either.

I don't remember reading anything about Apple actually selling XP, just this "utility" to allow a user to install it. I am also guessing that they will refuse to support your XP installation in any way.

Post 17 of 55

Mac and XP

by brookeb - 4/15/06 9:12 AM In reply to: sell or support Windows? by Ravensblood

Ya think?!!

Post 18 of 55

Finally, support from Apple

by MacHugger - 4/5/06 8:28 AM In reply to: Win XP on MAC By Apple called Boot Camp by rechellesharp

It's about time they faced reality and actually backed this. It was going to (has happened) anyhow and to look like the stubborn company who refused to support it was only hurting them. But getting behind it and actually helping it to work, is way better in terms of public relations and how seriously people will take this in actually buying Macs as a dual boot machine.

As for Schiller's somewhat snide comment about people wanting to run the software on "the superior hardware..." he's kind of the Steve Ballmer of Apple (apart from it actually being true ;-) )

-Kevin S.

Post 19 of 55

Can you share files between the partitions?

by kevinor - 4/5/06 8:34 AM In reply to: Win XP on MAC By Apple called Boot Camp by rechellesharp

Does anyone know if you can share files between the partitions? For example. You create an image in photoshop on your windows partition with your windows adobe photoshop software. You later buy a Mac version of photoshop. Can you access that original photoshop file without needing to burn cds or transfer via some other external means?

Another example. Import data into a Mac database from an Access database on your windows partition?

Any ideas?

Post 20 of 55

am I missing something?

by Ravensblood - 4/5/06 9:26 AM In reply to: Can you share files between the partitions? by kevinor

I haven't read any specs, so I don't know if the XP partition needs formatting for windows, but I can't see how the partitions are special in this situation compared to any other configuration (besides the formatting). Every partition shows up on the OSX desktop as another HD so I don't see why you couldn't access files off of it like any other folder.

I am not sure that XP can read the mac formatted drive, though.

Post 21 of 55

It Depends...

by heundorothy - 4/5/06 9:56 AM In reply to: Can you share files between the partitions? by kevinor

... on how the windows partition is formatted, if it's formatted as FAT32 (which is very insecure and not really recommended), then yes, OSX can mount it and read and write to it. If it's formatted as NTFS (which is considerably more secure than FAT32), then no. Going the other way, windows does not recognize the OSX partition and won't mount it. fdisk does see it as a HPFS partition, but windows doesn't have a filesystem driver for it.

I actually ran into this problem a couple of years ago... I had an iBook with an external FireWire hard drive that I used between windows and my iBook, and if I formatted it as NTFS (I wanted more security and flexibility than FAT32), my iBook wouldn't mount it, and if I formatted it for a Mac, Windows wouldn't mount it, so the only way I could get it to work, was to format it in FAT32.

Post 22 of 55

(NT) Yes and you get the choice when you install XP which U want

by rechellesharp - 4/10/06 1:19 AM In reply to: It Depends... by heundorothy

Post 23 of 55

You gotta like this dig though

by canuckmakem - 4/5/06 8:34 AM In reply to: Win XP on MAC By Apple called Boot Camp by rechellesharp

On the right hand side of the page you see this gem:

Word to the Wise

Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it’ll be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows world. So be sure to keep it updated with the latest Microsoft Windows security fixes.


AWWSSUUMMM!!! I have no interest in running XP on my Intel iMac but its a good idea if you need it... I guess.

Post 24 of 55

I'm a little disappointed...

by heundorothy - 4/5/06 9:45 AM In reply to: Win XP on MAC By Apple called Boot Camp by rechellesharp

... that it doesn't support Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005...

Just think, you could have a new iMac or MacBookPro, or Mac Mini with MCE 2005, and get use of the remote and such. Throw in a USB or Firewire tuner, and you could then have yourself a pretty nice PVR/DVR on your hands.

Post 25 of 55

Dvorak Vindicated!

by cmw72 - 4/5/06 9:54 AM In reply to: Win XP on MAC By Apple called Boot Camp by rechellesharp

And everybody said he was crazy ...

Post 26 of 55

Not Really

by adkinsjm - 4/5/06 9:57 AM In reply to: Dvorak Vindicated! by cmw72

Dvorak said the Apple would sell machines with XP and abandon OS X. Apple did this because they knew that their were some users who needed to have their applications work and work natively. I will more than likely get an Apple for my next pc purchase due to this.

Post 27 of 55

I was thinking the same thing.....

by ryan.steele - 4/5/06 12:27 PM In reply to: Dvorak Vindicated! by cmw72

Well they are not chucking OS X(hopefully never!) but man! Yea Dvorak seems to have some stuff right!

Post 28 of 55

Absolutely not

by rtemp - 4/5/06 2:57 PM In reply to: Dvorak Vindicated! by cmw72

He's still a loony.

Apple isn't abandoning OS X for Windows, they are just making an easier way to dual boot.

-Ryan

Post 29 of 55

(NT) They just killed the Virtual PC market.

by Ravensblood - 4/5/06 10:58 AM In reply to: Win XP on MAC By Apple called Boot Camp by rechellesharp

Post 30 of 55

It doesn' matter

by MacHugger - 4/5/06 11:04 AM In reply to: (NT) They just killed the Virtual PC market. by Ravensblood

It was slow and rarely worked for what I needed. Maybe it worked well for others.

But it doesn't really matter because it's primarily just Microsoft's product (Virtual PC) and Microsoft will be benefiting by increased Windows XP sales since this is a far more useful solution, I think.

-Kevin S.

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