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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 3/24/06 Give me back my Windows system tray icons

by Marc Bennett Moderator - 3/23/06 4:43 PM
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Post 91 of 159

Windows Start-up

by bdt_76 - 3/24/06 7:12 AM In reply to: Windows Startup by mjcoppola

To keep all those programs from starting when you boot up, you need to eliminate them in msconfig. You go to Run, type in msconfig and click ok. Click on the startup tab and take the check marks out of everything that you don't want to have start. You'll get a message that you have to restart the computer, and after it reboots the configuration utility message will appear, you decide if you want to see that each time you boot up.

Post 92 of 159

Wow!

by mjcoppola - 4/1/06 2:31 PM In reply to: Windows Start-up by bdt_76

Thanks very much, that was pretty easy.

One thing I was curious about--there were about 4 startup items that didn't have a name or a command line. All that was listed was the location--HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

Does anyone know what these are, and should I disable them?

Thanks;

Mike.

Post 93 of 159

Try AutoRuns from...

by Moonlight Gambler - 3/24/06 7:15 AM In reply to: Windows Startup by mjcoppola

.....http://www.sysinternals.com/
(To see what process are running they also have a program called Process Explorer.)

I prefer to "disable" rather than "delete".
If you don't know what something is do a Google search.

To review Windows XP services:
http://www.aumha.org/
http://theeldergeek.com/
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-22-5103176.html
http://www.jasonn.com/turning_off_unnecessary_services_on_windows_xp
and Google.

Post 94 of 159

Re Windows Startup

by hotjoeker - 3/25/06 9:02 AM In reply to: Windows Startup by mjcoppola

Another way to do this is by using WinPatrol (http://www.winpatrol.com/). WinPatrol has a start up tab where you could see all programs that are run during start-up. It gives you a little info about the program that is running. It has an option to remove or disable that program. Not only that, you could also see your IE helpers, scheduled task, services, and active task each on a separate tab. But most of all it protects you from hijackers and spy wares trying to change the setting of your PC by giving you a feedback about it. On its feedback, you have the option to allow or deny the change that is to take place.

Post 95 of 159

Disappearing Icons

by mireson - 3/24/06 5:06 AM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

Michael, I too have found the simple solution to this annoying problem is to wait until everything loads before continuing with any commands. This is particularly important/noticeable on my Sony Vaio laptop. Just thought I'd confirm your solution.

Post 96 of 159

Missing Sys Tray Icons

by jxb7076 - 3/24/06 7:05 AM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

Great answer Michael...any you're absolutely correct. Windows is a very complicated and complexed operating system in that any computer may have up to 1000+ files running simultaneously. Each requiring system resources to run. During bootup each process competes for these resources resulting in a battle for space which, unfortunately some will loose.

The magnitude of the problem is dependent upon what's running and how much of a memory hog it may be. Windows does a somewhat decent job managing these resources, if you're only running windows applications. Third party apps, particularly those requiring registry inputs - does not play fair and will attempt to override the windows resource management and acquire more resources than is required.
Sad, but true!

Post 97 of 159

Give me back my windows system tray icons

by jerrymball - 3/24/06 7:52 AM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

I've just read some of the replies for this thread and want to add that I also had the problem of disappearing icons but my problem turned out to be cured by removal of a worm 'Rivarts A - Backdoor'. What made me suspect it was a Trojan was the disappearance finally of my Zone Alarm Firewall icon.

The solution for me was to revert the hard drive using 'Go Back' and, having updated my security software, I ran Microsoft Anti-spyware (this found the problem) and Zone Alarm anti-virus. Thereafter my computer has worked normally.
ricbards

Post 98 of 159

Want my system tray icon

by Billyjess - 3/24/06 12:59 PM In reply to: Give me back my windows system tray icons by jerrymball

What do you mean 'go back', what and where is that please? I still have my zone alarm icon, I just have lost my msgtag one, and without it I can't bring it up to activate or deactivate, even tho I have the programme in Start, it doesn't have that particular icon abilities ...

Post 99 of 159

I have had same problem

by in2yourworld - 3/24/06 10:57 AM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

I have had the same problem, and use the same solution. The only thing I have to add, is that you know Windows has had enough time when it looks at the floopy drive (if you have one) on start up.

Post 100 of 159

SYS TRAY ICONS IN XP

by zyclop - 3/24/06 12:47 PM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

I can second the solution with "pausing".
The same helps me.
Found out by chance.
I am using different profiles for different tasks.
So when I change to a different user and then back again most times I get all icons back.

If you just let the machine rattle on until it comes to a "No HDD use" stop and enter the password then - should show most/all of the icons.

Post 101 of 159

same thing

by StevenJK - 3/24/06 1:23 PM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

They are running, but hiding.I get this all the time,especially when running a ram booster program.

Post 102 of 159

Not all the time

by hotjoeker - 3/25/06 9:17 AM In reply to: same thing by StevenJK

I have webshots and if the icon of webshot is not on your system tray, it will not run. I use webshot (http://webshot.com) to change the wall paper of my PC everyday.

Post 103 of 159

My pc boots up without a password.

by georgeny1 - 3/24/06 1:27 PM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

Michael...my computer doesn't ask for a password at startup. Any suggestions on how I can give Windows the resources it needs under that scenario?

Or, is there something I can do to fill the system tray after Windows is finished loading?

Thanks...George

Post 104 of 159

Yep! Same thing here

by explorer5 - 3/24/06 2:00 PM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

I had the same problem, and solved it the same way that Michael has solved it - waited a few minutes at the login prompt.
Although i would like to know - why does this occur? None of my co-workers, friends, or family members have this issue - is it because I'm a "power user" and have so many programs installed and set to run on startup??

Post 105 of 159

I use Start Right

by BuBuBear - 3/25/06 5:47 AM In reply to: Michael T's winning answer by Marc Bennett Moderator

Has anyone noticed the missing Icons all relate to Hardware?
Not to be advertising but...
I use a little program from Jack-A$$ Joe at www.joejoesoft.com formerly arseware.org.
It's called Start-Right and controls the start order, timing between items loading, what it has control over, and when it even starts loading programs. It allows you to disable certain items from loading, Yabber, Yabber, Yabber...Even with Start Right, since applying SP2, I have the missing Icon issue when I use Auto Logon on XP HOME only. (I haven't tested MME yet).
I have found that if I tell Start Right to wait nearly 10 full seconds before launching itself and loading any RUN or Startup programs the problem does not rear it's ugly head.

I'm probably far from correct, but it seems that XP still has the problem of trying to enumerate devices in the registry that are not connected (and every time you plug something in one of the hives gets bigger). So on a hunch, I hooked up all my current toys and used "Disconnected Device Remover" (don't remember where I got it) which ripped out all those extra volumes from flash cards long lost, cameras long dropped into the Grand Canyon, and printers from offices I'll never visit again, and my XP-HOME is booting like a champ again (without Start Right).

You know a real easy fix (although it would sometimes add to boot time) would to be hold the user boot sequence until the system is completely loaded. No?

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