Desktops: Watch Out for TigerDirect.com Rebates
Tiger Direct Rebate
by Ronald441 - 3/4/06 7:48 AM In reply to: onrebate.com-not all bad by Alan CopelandWell Alan... It has now been three months and no rebates... I sent in two rebates.. One to the on line rebate place and the other to some address... The on line rebate place said I did not sign something... So I called them and they told me too bad, so sad, get lost... I signed everything everywhere and resent everything (within the necessary time period)... They threw it away... As I said I have never seen a check on the other rebate...
ONR Support
by Cabinnyc - 5/18/06 8:35 AM In reply to: Tiger Direct Rebate by Ronald441Dear Customer,
Please email our customer service advocate nadina.urdaneta@onrebate.com in efforts to find a resolution to your claim.
OnRebate quote from BBB
by georgekale - 3/4/06 1:12 PM In reply to: onrebate.com-not all bad by Alan CopelandAlan, Lucky you, Here's a quote from BBB.
"Thank you for contacting the Better Business Bureau concerning the dispute you are having with the above named company. We have forwarded your complaint to the company for their comments and/or action. You will be informed of the outcome of this matter. However, we must advise you that the prognosis for a favorable resolution of your issue is not good. This company has already "earned" an "unsatisfactory" business reliability report with the BBB. It is, therefore, doubtful that they will respond to us, or to you, concerning this matter. Nevertheless, we will make our best effort to help mediate a solution."
aka TigerDirect?
by WhyFi - 4/1/06 5:24 AM In reply to: Rebate Rip-off Company.>>> OnRebate (aka TigerDirect) by georgekaleHow do you know that TigerDirect and OnRebate are the same company? Simply because OnRebate handles their rebates? OnRebate handles rebates for several manufacturers, does that mean that all of them are under the same umbrella of some tech crime syndicate?
Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of OnRebate (I get the feeling that they're hired guns, and I wouldn't be surprised if, when looking for new partnerships, they tout the percentage of rebates that are unclaimed/denied), but I think that you may be placing blame wrongly. By all means, blame OnRebate for using technology to make it harder to claim a rebate, and blame TigerDirect for using their services (and let them know that you won't purchase anything from them while they continue to do so), but don't fire off the conspiracy theory that they are one and the same unless you have some more telling evidence.
Since you asked, here's proof they are the same company
by cameraHELP! - 6/14/06 10:57 AM In reply to: aka TigerDirect? by WhyFiSince you asked if it was simply speculation to say "AKA TigerDirect" on my part based on the fact that OnRebate did the TigerDirect rebates, the anwer is no, and here's your proof.
Both TigerDirect and OnRebate are "wholly-owned subsidiaries" of Systemax. If you're not familiar with corporate double-speak, that means that, "Yup, they're essentially the same company." Even the same street address on most of their documents.
You can read all about it here:
http://jerryfeil.com/tigerdirect.htm
or take my word for it from the highlights below copied from Jerry's site (bless you guy for exposing this sleazy company for what it is). You'll have to visit Jerry's site to see the photocopies of the annual reports filed with the State of Florida for the two companies, though.
begin quote from Jerry's site:
First, look at their web domain registrations:
ONREBATE.COM
Registrant:
Highspeedbackbone.net
7795 W FLAGLER ST STE
MIAMI, FL 33144-2367
Domain Name: ONREBATE.COM
Administrative Contact:
Amato, Peter
ATTN: ONREBATE.COM
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HIGHSPEEDBACKBONE.NET 199.181.77.20
NS2.HIGHSPEEDBACKBONE.NET 199.181.77.21
TIGERDIRECT.COM
Registrant:
Highspeedbackbone.net
7795 W FLAGLER ST STE 35
MIAMI, FL 33144-2367
US
Domain Name: TIGERDIRECT.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Amato, Peter
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HIGHSPEEDBACKBONE.NET 199.181.77.20
NS2.HIGHSPEEDBACKBONE.NET 199.181.77.21
MARCOPOLO.TIGERDIRECT.COM 199.181.77.91
Note that Peter Amato is the Administrative Contact for both domains. Both domains are registered to Highspeedbackbone.net. It's interesting that there's a TIGERDIRECT name server in the same Class C block of IP addresses as highspeedbackbone.net. Let's look at the domain registration for Highspeedbackbone.net:
HIGHSPEEDBACKBONE.NET
Registrant:
Highspeedbackbone.net
7795 W FLAGLER ST STE 35
MIAMI, FL 33144-2367
US
Domain Name: HIGHSPEEDBACKBONE.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Amato, Peter peter.amato@tigerdirect.com
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HIGHSPEEDBACKBONE.NET 199.181.77.20
NS2.HIGHSPEEDBACKBONE.NET 199.181.77.21
MARCOPOLO.TIGERDIRECT.COM 199.181.77.91
Notice that Peter has a tigerdirect.com email address.
Now let's do a traceroute to both domains to see what IP address they resolve to:
Query Results:
sl-bb20-ana>trace tigerdirect.com
Tracing the route to tigerdirect.com (199.181.77.35)
Tracing the route to onrebate.com (199.181.77.35)
Isn't that cozy! OnRebate.com and TigerDirect.com resolve to the SAME IP ADDRESS!
How about the corporate records?
This information is from the State of Florida:
ONREBATE.COM INC.
PRINCIPAL ADDRESS
7795 WEST FLAGLER STREET
MIAMI FL 33144
MAILING ADDRESS
7795 WEST FLAGLER STREET
MIAMI FL 33144
Registered Agent
Name & Address
CORPORATION SERVICE COMPANY
1201 HAYS STREET
TALLAHASSEE FL 32301-2525
Officer/Director Detail Name & Address Title
LEEDS, RICHARD
11 HARBOR PARK DIRVE
PORT WASHINGTON NY 11050 CD
LEEDS, ROBERT
11 HARBOR PARK DIRVE
PORT WASHINGTON NY 11050 D
LEEDS, BRUCE
11 HARBOR PARK DIRVE
PORT WASHINGTON NY 11050 D
DUNNE, JOE
7795 WEST FLAGLER STREET
MIAMI FL 33144 P
GOLDSCHEIN, STEVEN
11 HARBOR PARK DRIVE
PORT WASHINGTON NY 11050 V
SPEILLER, MICHAEL
11 HARBOR PARK DRIVE
PORT WASHINGTON NY 11050 T
TIGERDIRECT, INC.
PRINCIPAL ADDRESS
7795 WEST FLAGLER
STE 35
MIAMI FL 33144 US
MAILING ADDRESS
7795 WEST FLAGLER
STE 35
MIAMI FL 33144 US
Registered Agent
Name & Address
PRENTICE HALL LEGAL & FINANCIAL SERVICES
1201 HAYS STREET
TALLAHASSEE FL 32301
Officer/Director Detail Name & Address Title
FIORENTINO, GILBERT
7795 WEST FLAGLER ST STE 35
MIAMI FL 33144 CEO
FIORENTINO, CARL
7795 WEST FLAGLER ST STE 35
MIAMI FL 33144 P
DUNNE, JOSEPH
7795 WEST FLAGLER ST STE 35
MIAMI FL 33144 VP
Still not convinced? Below are the 2006 State of Florida Annual Reports for both Onrebate.com and TigerDirect. They were both filed the same day from the same address and signed by the same person. The phone number provided on both reports is listed to Systemax. If you go to the Onrebate.com web site and click "about us", you'll see a bunch of other people and a boca raton address. Don't be fooled. As of Feb 1, 2006, OnRebate's legal address was the same as TigerDirect.
end quote from Jerry's site.
You'll have to visit Jerry's site to see the photocopies of the annual reports filed with the State of Florida for the two companies.
And there's still more there. This is the highlights.
Here's that link again.
http://jerryfeil.com/tigerdirect.htm
TigerDirect.com rebates are horrible!!!
by kimi0117 - 1/13/06 8:40 AM In reply to: Watch Out for TigerDirect.com Rebates by Wally SunI bought a monitor that had two rebates, one through the company that makes the monitor and the other through an onlne rebate company. I bought the monitor in September and still have not received word of whether or not I will ever see the money from these rebates. I have tried to contact the companies doing the rebated to no avail. Beware of buying anything from TigerDirect.com that has a rebate, you will never see that money.
Tiger Direct Rebate Horror
by Ronald441 - 1/13/06 1:25 PM In reply to: TigerDirect.com rebates are horrible!!! by kimi0117I have saved all papers and correspondence with these people... I think about March I am going to send this documentation to the Tiger Direct Marketing Director and the Federal Trade Commission.... I do not believe they intend to pay these rebates and that they are intentionally setting up every roadblock they can so they can default on their payment. Do you know their fine print reads that they can deny payment if you do not put a return address on your envelope.... WoW... Do not buy anything from Tiger Direct if it requires a rebate....
TigerDirect and OnRebate.com Rebate Rip-off
by rexlast - 3/15/06 1:37 PM In reply to: TigerDirect.com rebates are horrible!!! by kimi0117A warning about TigerDirect and OnRebate.com's rebate offers. In December 2005, I ordered several products from TigerDirect with a total of $255 in rebates. All but one $10 submission was denied.
OnRebate said that the invoice that I submitted didn't have enough information in it. The fact is, I printed the invoice from TigerDirect's Web site.
I called TigerDirect they gave me a phone number to call (888.222.9300 and this one was on the email they sent me 866-310-9701). I've called four times and waited 30 minutes or more then they disconnected me.
I've done some research on these two companies, it appears that TigerDirect and OnRebate are of the same company. TigerDirect's principal address is, 7795 WEST FLAGLER, STE 35, MIAMI FL 33144 US and OnRebate.com's principal address is, 7795 WEST FLAGLER STREET, MIAMI FL 33144. Is that coincidental or what?
Tiger Direct Rebates
by Ronald441 - 3/17/06 6:57 AM In reply to: TigerDirect and OnRebate.com Rebate Rip-off by rexlastThanks for adding your experience to these messages.. I have found out that they have many complaints against them... I think you should alert all of your friends and relatives and sign them up for Free Tiger Direct catalogs... Be sure and instruct them to throw them away whenever they come... We call it Payback! Good Luck... Ron
ONR Support
by Cabinnyc - 5/18/06 8:25 AM In reply to: TigerDirect and OnRebate.com Rebate Rip-off by rexlastDear Customer,
Please email our customer advocate nadina.urdaneta@onrebate.com Upon receiving your email we will investigate in efforts of finding a resolution.
Onrebate.com Support
by Cabinnyc - 6/7/06 2:59 PM In reply to: TigerDirect and OnRebate.com Rebate Rip-off by rexlastDear Customer,
If you need any assistance in reference to your rebate please send an email to our customer service advocate nadina.urdaneta@onrebate.com in efforts to find a resolution.
Onrebate.com
ONR Support
by Cabinnyc - 5/4/06 2:05 PM In reply to: TigerDirect.com rebates are horrible!!! by kimi0117To: Kimi0117
Here at Onrebate.com we receive many claims but seem to get misdirected or lost by mail. Please submit an email to our customer advocate nadina.urdaneta@onrebate.com Upon receiving your email we will investigate in efforts to find a resolution.
Tiger Rebate Horrors
by Ronald441 - 5/5/06 1:17 PM In reply to: ONR Support by CabinnycNadina (check out the previous comments) has given me her email address at Tiger Rebates.... I sent her all of my photocopies and says that check will be in the mail.... I am a happy guy...
X2gen still owes me a $25.00 rebate check and I have ask nadina if she can help with this.... As of now, I do not know????
If you have rebate problems, be sure and check out the previous comments on this website and she can help you out.... Ron
You didn't notice on reviews by buyers that that never got t
by Earth911 - 1/14/06 1:59 AM In reply to: Watch Out for TigerDirect.com Rebates by Wally SunI kept reading reviews on the said products that, I never recieved my rebate.I never buy product base on there rebates because, I know I want get it.
I have bought from Tiger Direct
by kitcat133 - 3/4/06 3:17 AM In reply to: You didn't notice on reviews by buyers that that never got t by Earth911and never had any problems. I have found that very few rebates you will see from any company....its been 2 years and a very big cell phone company( not mentioning any names) has yet to send me my rebate.
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