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Agree
by murrman - 2/10/06 5:49 PM In reply to: Try Kaspersky ! by altini_s1KAV is right at the top of independent testing{ not paid for reviews} along with F-secure,NOD32 and BitDefender.Testing below these is Norton!.
Its not just your opinion
by fiqqer - 2/21/06 6:38 PM In reply to: Try Kaspersky ! by altini_s1Magazine reviews consistantly rate Kaspersky as the best AV product reaching over 99% detection rates in comprehensive tests. Nortons achieves around 75 %. I dont call 75 % protection.
This is also my experience. I have used most of the AV products around and have also used them to detect and remove nasties from computers/laptops etc.
When a laptop has over 1,500 identified malware items 75% leaves an awful lot of nasties behind. Here only Kapersky will do and you can run Kaspersky effectively even with a low powered laptop. This is almost impossible with Nortons.
hi altini_s1
by shankru85 - 3/22/06 4:59 PM In reply to: Try Kaspersky ! by altini_s1ok , i'll try . I'm actually using PANDA & assure that's really good & updated but...i trust u .
to be on the safe side i use both norton and avg
by xandeer - 2/10/06 11:22 PM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanto be on the safe side i use both norton and avg and i think avg is much more user friendly than norton anti-virus, it even looks better.it's automatic good looking and free so i pick avg over norton even tho i have norton installed.
Use only one active AV at a time
by MmmMmmGoodMan - 2/11/06 1:44 AM In reply to: to be on the safe side i use both norton and avg by xandeerBeing ''on the safe side'' is a good idea, however.... using two anti-virus programs at the same time can cause conflicts, slow down your computer and at worst leave you less protected than with either one running by itself.
I too used Norton System Works 2004 and 2005, but after my son got our computer infected last year I dumped Norton. Its a resource hog, and to be honest, in my personal opinion not worth the money.
I use AVG, Zonealarm, MS AntiSpyware, and scan with Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, and Ewido regularly.
I also use MSVP HOSTS, IE SPYADS2, and Spyware Blaster for a little more protection.
And nothing but Firefox for surfing.
Oh and all of the above except Ewido are free. Ewido has a free trial that disables some stuff after 15 days, but its great for grabbing stuff that other programs just can't clean.
The best protection in the world won't help if you don't keep ALL of your programs updated, not just your AV. Stoll through all the stuff that can be a problem in the link below. Its the SANS top 20 "Most Critical Internet Security Vulnerabilities" for 2005.
http://www.sans.org/top20/
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by Ian M - 2/11/06 4:54 AM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanThe old saying, If all else fails read the instructions. Perhaps if you took the time to do it properly and not just guess, be humble, you might understand why they are the leaders
Ian M
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by analogguy - 2/11/06 10:15 AM In reply to: Such a glib response serves no one.... by VernonEi have certainly learned about many problems with Norton Produtcs today. I had no idea since I only use their AV and don't know of any problems it has casued with my computer. I believe I would be afraid to try to uninstall it!
No they aren't
by murrman - 2/11/06 9:55 AM In reply to: Norton by Ian MAre they the leaders in advertising and promoting their product.Yes they are.Are they the leaders in detection and removal.Not any more.And isn't this the most important reason for using an antivirus in the first place.Until people stop using Norton out of habit and do some searching for themselves, these problems won't go away.Norton's detection rates won't get any better.The reason is, there is no incentive for Norton to improve.If you look at any recent, independent test that's not influenced by antivirus companies,Norton is 4th best at most.And once it does detect a virus, it's removal ability leaves something to be desired!.
NAV ok, not NIS
by sdownes_2000 - 2/11/06 5:47 PM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanI have used Norton Anti-virus for many tears on many systems without an issue. I agree that it takes some set-up time, but once it's running there's no problems. NIS on the other hand was a nightmare. It was way too over-officious, not only blocking the bad guys, but blocking me, too. I got rid of it within a week of using it and finding no way of making work "in the background".
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by Wetjob3 - 2/14/06 3:17 AM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanThis is presumabley about one or other version of Norton anti virus. I found it not to be very reliable and a hog of system resources. Its also difficult to uninstall properly. Incidentally I tried F Secure. This is expensive and let me down badly, so much so that I had to uninstall it. Or rather I tried to uninstall it! The nasty it missed needed a complete re-install of Windows XP! I'm now with AVG and well pleased with it although the paid version has advantages over the freebie.
Norton Why? - PC Magazine
by john55440 - 2/14/06 7:08 AM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanI started buying NAV because it was a PC Magazine Editor's Choice. I haven't had any problems with it, but due to rebate hassles, have no brand loyalty to Symantec. I am willing to look at other brands in the future.
Nortons? Don't know of 1 good reason to use it.
by fiqqer - 2/21/06 6:27 PM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanI have until last year been a long term user of Nortons. In the very early days 1998 to about 2002 Nortons was pretty effective and had a solid reputation.
Their products got increasingly worse and worse to the stage where my company stopped using them around 2003 (computers were very sluggish, and got worse over time due to problems with updates). My work now uses Macaffee which is a very effective corporate computer - stopped some network viruses which Nortons allowed through to delete all the .exe programmes on a server drive. This mirrored my home use - and even though I had free versions of Nortons ( it came on CDs with motherboards I purchased) I always replaced it with other programmes - both free and paid ones.
Why even the free "Antivir" AV programme picked up so many trojans, worms and viruses that Nortons just ignored and allowed to remain active on my computer. When I replaced Antivir with Kasperky, why I was dumbfounded that so much stuff could get through.
You got it
by murrman - 2/21/06 6:50 PM In reply to: Nortons? Don't know of 1 good reason to use it. by fiqqerNorton's sales team should be voted #1 for this product to still have the market share it does.It's not a bad product but certainly far from being the best.
Why? Well, if you like bright colours, the box is pretty.
by mountainwindcat - 2/22/06 10:35 PM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanI have done extensive searching and taking in of reviews of Norton, specifically NIS 2006 which I unfortunately purchased, used, hated (along with my computer that was probably cursing at me under its breath), dreaded uninstalling, uninstalled successfully (there's a surprise), and am now going to be returning to Symantec for a full refund. That's the rough timeline, obviously the happenings in between were more detailed.
Problems I encountered while using NIS included:
- constant pop-ups about programs accessing the internet (even NIS itself!!! Hello?)
- Firefox would constantly have page loading problems (and having to use IE Internet Exploder because of that reason, or ANY reason, is NOT an option)
- computer slowdowns at startup, shutdown, and during normal operations (and even when the computer was just sitting idle, it would suddenly jump to using 90% of cpu time... for what?? There's nothing to scan, I'm not ''using'' the computer.
- Live Update which was always supposed to autoupdate everything, autoupdated nothing...
- constant problems with net slowdowns and stutters
- 3 spywares and 1 parasite detected by an online scan at Trend Micro that Norton not only didn't detect, but didn't block as it was supposed to in the first place
- since it was bad enough to be mentioned twice, computer lag
- sucks up battery life for breakfast... ever since installing NIS, my battery life dropped severely, and since I use my laptop at school, running out of juice in the middle of class just doesn't sit well with me, especially when the tack on the chair is from Norton
- did I mention that it slows down the computer?
NIS could offer so much having such a wide array of individual programs to protect the computer, but the fact that it is such a bloated piece of software, and the effectiveness of each of the said components is questionable, makes its overall usefullness for the cost equally questionable... and thus the reason for this very forum.
It really is unfortunate that Norton has taken a downhill turn, as it always carried a name respected in computers. And since uninstalling NIS and still being in debate regarding my choice from other AV's (I'm currently running Avast, although I'm not sure how impressed I am with it), I must admit that I feel like somehow my system is blank and susceptible, despite the fact that NIS obviously had problems. Feeling stuck between a rock and a hard place about what options are available now is frustrating. Likely I will just stick it out with a free AV, and use Zonealarm, and a quartet of anti-spyware programs on my computer. I am not going to shell out more money for another brand name program unless I can have a guarantee that it's worth it.
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