The fact is, viruses might be able to infect a user space, but cannot propagate on UNIX. Other exploits may find their way in from time to time--there are 10,000 eyeballs on the source to find and fix oversights all the time. But on unix, all installs can be only by the root user, and any attempt to change any executable program must be by the root user.
Back when Microsoft put its windows 2000 server out in front of firewalls and dared people to crack it, a PPC linux server was put in front of firewalls and THE ROOT PASSWORD WAS SUPPLIED, and still no one could crack it.
So, BY DESIGN, unix systems are virus proof. Your argument is suspect at best and probably specious.
Margrave
I just went to www.netcraft.com and put cnet.com into their little *What's that site running?* category. EIGHT servers showed up. 2 Linux, 2 Solaris, 4 unknown, all running Apache Webserver. No MS Server 2003. No IIS. Just heavily hardened servers running Apache.
So HOW does Microsoft bring us this site? By advertising? By owning what used to be owned by Patch publications? Before you flame me, get your facts straight!
I was there when two programmers from Edinburgh received a $200,000 check from Microsoft for proof of concept spyware. If you want to verify, I suggest searching for copies of The Register in late 2000/early 2001. I heard them say how merchants would surely want to buy this to study their customer's buying habits without tying up their own computer resources. YEs, Microsoft helped create spyware. It is logical for them to cash in on anti-spyware now, and I bear them no ill will for it.
Well, you are being far too literal here.
I'm sure the person who replied to you was simply implying that because Microsoft created the Windows OS that made the PC so popular that perhaps more than 80% of them run Windows in some form, that this in essence created the environment that we all now enjoy here at Cnet, as well as every other known site in the virtual universe.
I certainly didn't believe that this person was literally talking out what server software Cnet was running. But hey, I could be wrong... ![]()
I use Spybot-Search&Destroy, Spyware Doctor, and SpywareBlaster.
Microsoft Beta, Ad-aware, Spybot SD.
I have found some overlap to be advantageous as some nuances are not detected.
Microsoft AntiSpyware and Lavasoft's Ad-Aware Personal SE.
Sometimes I can't believe the waste of tech effort learning to combat a problem created and nurtured by a commercial vendor.
I was there in 2000 at the University of Edinburgh when Microsoft presented a check for $200,000 for "proof of concept" spyware. Spyware began as a marketing to merchants to recruit your WINDOWS op system into tracking your buying habits. I do not know if today's anti-spyware exempts that supposedly legitimate purpose from its sweeps.
The fact remains that there are OSes out there which do not permit spyware and do not propagate viruses.
But of course such tech forums as this and such entities as antivirus and antispyware would be unnecessary if people wised up and demanded better from the near-monopoly on OSes.
I am terminating my membership in disgust.
Margrave
As Margrave says, there are OSes in the real world that are not involved. Mac OSX is one...I got it; I like it; it works for me;
Get a Mac and regain your (i)Life
Ralph in the backwoods of Helena, MT,USA
I use the following 5 programs:
Microsoft AntiSpyware (auto updates & scheduling)
A Squared
Spybot-S&D
NoAdware (cleans up after I run LimeWire...)
Ad-Aware
On those rare occasions when I have run all four programs back to back, I found each program would identify different issues.
- Jan
My arsenal of anti-spyware apps include the following.
SpyBot
Ad-Aware (free)
Spyware Blaster
ZAPro (now with spyware scanner)
Bazooka
A-Squared (free)
A-Squared Hijackfree
Doctor Alex
Kill2Me
Smartkiller
Hijack This
This is a free anti spyware program, which uses a sequence of free antispyware programs, which it updates every time you use it. Download at: http://www.hitmanpro.nl/ (At the bottom of the screen, you will find English text).
Program takes a while but works wonders. Greetings Anna oldenhave
I use three, spy bot, microsoft antispy, & adaware.
I would like to know what the moderators use themselves.
UTILITIES-
Trend Micro Antispyware 3.0
Spybot S&D
RESIDENT-
Trend Micro Venus Spytrap
Spybot S&D Teatimer
I've been told that not one program is available has the ability to remove all spyware... Thus, I'm forced to use three different spyware programs.
If anyone else has different thoughts on this... It would be great too hear about this!
- Phil
Yeah, I'm newbie on Mac 10.4.5 and use Safari and Mozilla not IE. I surf heavily, visit a ton of sites to expand my horizons. I'm so dumb I don't even know what's applicable to Mac. Yes, I could find all the mentioned ones posted here, but someone could grant me a big efficiency with their knowledge.
Any takers, please. I probably suffer more slow downs than most Mac users say they have. Have to use Tech Tool & Disk Warrior frequently; even an occasional re-install. Am not knowledgable enough to figure why and from where eminate the bogging down.
Retired with guilt time spent on nice places like Cnet forums as admission of a pitiful excuse for not having a real life. Yeah, a little humor there, but also due to physical mobility problems.
Would surely appreciate anyone helping me towards more skill levels.
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