Community weekly poll: What MP3 player series is most likely to overtake the iPod?
- 1/31/06 3:11 PM
hahah definitley ipod sucks
by Flyingmonkes - 1/31/06 7:52 PM In reply to: ipods suxxorz by jazzyjakeipod got to be so famous from just its looks and such but that is definitley going to wear off. It may look pretty, but who gives because it's an mp3 player, and it will spend 99% of the time in your pocket
i agree, customer service on creative is awesome. i sent my micro in and i didn't have to do a thing and they gave me a free xtra battery also.
i definitley think ipod's gonna fall and that the creative m vision will take its place. However, most ppl dont even kno wat an mp3 player is and they buy an ipod to be "cool" which now means generic like everyone else. despite this, ipod is gonna be thrown off the 1st place spot definitley by creative's looks and features
Stale Weak review
by william roark - 1/31/06 9:40 PM In reply to: ipods suxxorz by jazzyjakeCreative isn't anything close to the iPod. Their volume is weak, their directory is weak, skip your HD mp3 player on some pavement and what do you expect? Your Creative player isn't made better to with hold your abuse, its just your one lucky ******* not to see it disintegrate into oblivion. Add on the best legal online music selection on the planet, the best software interface on the planet... well, add it up... the reason that the Creative players never took off, (they have been making them longer) is that they aren't designed for crap.
I Dissagree
by Bec-j - 2/1/06 2:41 AM In reply to: Stale Weak review by william roarkI dissagree, Th Creative Micro Photo has quite good volume. That's why we haven't had to create speakers for the creatives, the volume is of such quality, in comparison to the Ipod with their speakers.
Someone else commented that people only buy Ipods to be cool, Unfortunately, though this is a true comment, i personally think anyone with an Ipod is a follower and not a leader.
I wish people would just get over the damned things, they're soooo over-rated!
Hello? Vision:M?
by Rawnchie14 - 2/10/06 12:30 PM In reply to: Stale Weak review by william roark*Yes, I agree that the Vision:M series might be made of plastic, and cant handle a lot of abuse, but can an IPod Video? I highly doubt it. "Disinigrate into oblivion"? An IPod wont ever do that. It'll just have scratches and nicks all over from the cheap material they chose to use on the screen to make a few more pennies. Don't bring up wear and tear structure in an IPod agrument... you will lose horribly.
*Also are you reffering to the glorious click wheel as in design? It's nifty, but cmon... you can't say everything else is trash compared to it. Yes, Creative's controls bother me, being slightly more difficult than they need to be (I'm disabled, and suffer through my entire body, so I don't need things to be complicated) such as the push buttons. No need for them to be stiff, and frequently used. This field, I do agree, that IPod beats most in design.
*Best legal online store? How about Napster and Yahoo's monthly charge instead of a dollar a song? I mean, buy more than 16 songs a month and you're getting ripped off! Terrible. No other options. Then Bill (Gates) and the gang are making a video collection with a monthy charge similar to Napster, so Apple can't abuse that either with 2.99 a movie charges. Not to mention there's already Google video available (as sparse as the collection is)... I bet both Google and probably Microsoft plans will be compatible with other players w/o the ghetto quicktime formats, where as Apple will stand firm with making it "Apple Only" to keep thier ITunes customers stuck with them as long as they own an IPod, and if not, they'll at least get $25.99 out of you with the quicktime conversion software. Whomped.
*Vision:M's video rumbles and rolls all over Apple IPod's. Not to mention that the video playback battery life is double on the Vision:M. Audio... they both lack in my opinion, although Creative has the upper hand between them, as they better be sitting in the sound card business. Sony, IAudio, and even IRiver players have better audio quality, they just all suffer from severe flaws in other areas (which is a shame in some cases).
*"the reason that the Creative players never took of, ... is that they aren't designed for crap" Phew... thats a good one. I assume you know that the similarities between IPod Video and Vision:M are astounding no? So why would you disgrace it...? And in addition, this gets to the "OMG Copycats, flame flame troll troll burn Creative," but yes, they did immitate the interface on-screen in many ways, but cmon. What obligation do they have to "be creative." They gave a product of their own, with a similar GUI, oh boo hoo. That's like saying Recycling Bin sucks in Windows because it copies Mac's trash can... It's MS's twist on a similar feature which they cannot get anymore creative with. Suck it up.
- I'm done. Sorry to disagree on almost everything you said, I'm just stating my opinion.
Re: Weak
by - 3/9/06 12:33 PM In reply to: Stale Weak review by william roark''Creative isn't anything close to the iPod. Their volume is weak, their directory is weak [...]''
What exactly in the Hell do you think you're talking about? I have a Zen Micro, and the volume is definitely loud enough. The higher voume settings can really make my ears ring after listening a while.
''Add on the best legal online music selection on the planet, the best software interface on the planet... well, add it up...''
Add it up indeed! You ought to add it up! Although as one individual store iTunes is best, it's the only store you can use with an iPod!
On the other hand, music from dozens of online music stores will play on a Creative player! And on iRiver and Samsung players for that matter!
And give me foobar2000 over iTunes anyday.
''the reason that the Creative players never took off, (they have been making them longer) is that they aren't designed for crap.''
No, it's quite simply because people are stupid, and they prefer idiotproof over bulletproof.
Branding.
by MattLPMP - 1/31/06 6:28 PM In reply to: What MP3 player series is most likely to overtake the iPod? by Marc Bennett
The iPod has become as synonymous to portable music as Google has to web searching. Apple owns the space and it's strictly theirs to lose. The next two Nano/Micro/Pico players could be junk, but Apple will be the dominant brand for a long, long time.
Given the missteps of its competitors and the downfall of Rio, I wouldn't be surprised if they are ever surpassed in the pure-player space -- it'll take the next killer phone that changes the market to actually affect the major players' ranks.
-MattL
One thing holds them all back.
by rgruenhaus - 1/31/06 6:28 PM In reply to: What MP3 player series is most likely to overtake the iPod? by Marc Bennett
The lack of a nice program to make copies of my DVD movies that I bought and want to watch while I take plane rides. The DVD players are too large and this would be ideal! Most of the sites out there with some kind of video to use with my Vision M are lame home mades or tv .
Check out the new PMPs
by weeblesue - 2/1/06 6:31 AM In reply to: One thing holds them all back. by rgruenhausHey buddy - check out the new PMPs on the market. They are custom made for just that - getting vidoeos portable so you can take them with you.
I have a Cowon A2 30 GB, and love it. The battery life is fantastic - just what you need for a long plane ride and a couple of videos. They provide the conversion software with the device.
So check them out, you may find one you like.
Good luck.
Susan
SONY PSP or MS XBOX360 Handheld?
by PaoNan - 1/31/06 6:30 PM In reply to: What MP3 player series is most likely to overtake the iPod? by Marc Bennett
I'm pretty impressed and obssessed by the features
of PSP. Heard from an insider, SONY will adopt
WMV in the coming firmware update.
There will be a big change in the first half of
2006. Many major companies will introduce new
killer players, MP3P's and PMP's with reasonable
price.
I'd better bet on the WMT camp. They have so much
potential to do it right.
No one knows the answer yet.
iPod is the defacto standard.
by krae84 - 1/31/06 6:49 PM In reply to: What MP3 player series is most likely to overtake the iPod? by Marc Bennett
Another player WILL NOT overtake the iPod. The iPod IS the defacto standard. Apple sells more iPods in a day than Creative sells in nearly a quarter..
The iPod is still the best designed player out there.. Sure, Creative has done a good job at copying the iPod, but it is still severly lacking compared to the iPod..
The iPod is not a winner just because of hardware.. It is a winner because of hardware AND software.. iPod AND iTunes. The thousands of iPod accessories and the fact that over 40% of all auto manufacturers now offer full iPod integration in vehicles as a factory option doesn't hurt either..
But the bottom line is that the hardware/software combo of iPod/iTunes is something none of the other players can match... ITunes has the largest content catalog of both music and video, it is the easiest to use, and it now holds an 83% marketshare of all legally purchased digital music...
In order to sync the same info to a Creative player as an iPod you need to go through about five sync processes as compared to iPod/iTunes one step one-click process.
The creative vision makes you:
1. Sync and purchase your music from a non-iTunes music service. (Napster is on the verge of bankruptcy by the way!)
2. Use seperate software to sync and manage your podcasts.
3. Use seperate software to sync your photos.
4. Use seperate software to purchase, manage and sync your videos.
5. USe seperate software to sync your contacts, and calendars.
Meanwhile iTunes handles all five of the above steps with ONE CLICK!
Hmmm...
by Bec-j - 2/1/06 2:45 AM In reply to: iPod is the defacto standard. by krae84I'm not saying that Ipod doesn't sell better, they were just lucky enough to get all those stereotypical wannabee-cool ppls sucked into it's looks. They may sell more than Creative does, but that don't mean that it's better, all that's saying is that more and more people are becoming clones to the rest of the world.
Not all of them are like that.
by weeblesue - 2/1/06 6:34 AM In reply to: iPod is the defacto standard. by krae84There are several other MP3 players out there on the market, and the one I have as well as the one that it replaced both synched in one step with my computer.
I don't like iTunes. I get my music from different sources, and it is not that easy to get outside music put into iTunes.
I haven't found a program out there that doesn't do exactly the same thing as itunes, and in some cases, does it better.
Heck, Windows Media Player does the same thing as itunes!!!
Popular and best are not always equal
by altema - 2/1/06 11:46 AM In reply to: iPod is the defacto standard. by krae84I agree that the iPod is a current defacto standard due to sheer numbers alone. I also believe that it got there by having an innovative design and decent quality. However, there are some technical issues where the iPod is inferior to other offerings.
1. Being trapped in iTunes is not always paradise... unless you like low quality recordings. For a pro audio engineer (studio certified, FCC licensed) the playback quality is among the worst out there. I actually have to put extra effort into making a recording that sounds as bad.
2. Durability. Take any player with a hard drive and drop it while running. Not a pretty sight.
3. Lack of live recording ability. Several devices out there have line input to record from any source, AND a voice recorder. The icing on the cake is that even the medium setting is twice the quality of iTunes songs.
4. Tiny screens. You can view photos and videos on screens that have 4 times the viewing area of the video iPod. Even a Palm Pilot can do 30fps video with stereo sound, and you don't have to squint at a postage stamp sized screen. Ok, TWO postages stamps 
I'm not saying the iPod is bad, but I AM saying that there are other devices that do some things better.
itunes is weak
by martyvonx - 2/7/06 7:39 PM In reply to: Popular and best are not always equal by altemaI would agree that itunes is the weak link. It is sluggish, and not done very well in windows. But the interface is better that windows media.
My Treo 650!
by pegasus227 - 1/31/06 6:52 PM In reply to: What MP3 player series is most likely to overtake the iPod? by Marc Bennett
I can listen to hundreds of MP3s or any other usual audio format and I can watch FULL lenght movies or recorded TV at my leisure - this is the greatest gadget invented thus far - a phone - a full featured pda - full access to the internet - email - sms messaging - instant message services like yahoo - an mp3 player - a video player - a game machine - and if that isn't enough it works as a modem to get my laptop online as more than respectable speed - will all of this you've got to be crazy to buy a phone, a pda, and an ipod - how many pockets do you have? and more importantly the total outlay is less dollars.
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