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Spyware, viruses, & security : Norton. Why?.
NOrton ---please keep it out
by randani - 2/10/06 8:01 AM In reply to: I'm with you! by jimichanI too agree that Norton is useless. Just bought a new PC with Norton installed and when i added any new software, the system literally died...very sluggish...and i mean real sluggish. I uninstalled Norton and the change was like night and day.
Changed to Panda
by Jessyca - 2/12/06 9:50 AM In reply to: NOrton ---please keep it out by randaniMy shared file ground down to a halt. No matter how I tried to get rid of norton I couldn't but I then went on google and asked how to get rid and symantics themselves showed me how. It took agaes as everything was in the registry etc. Now I'm free and am trying Panda which is find so far. Stopped a number of hackers so far.
Norton gone bad...
by sauna6 - 2/10/06 4:01 AM In reply to: You want a list of problems with Norton.... by VernonESame experience. Trying to go from version 2002 to 2003 required hours of uninstall and registry cleaning work. This is not acceptabe by any standards.
AVG runs in my PCs now, and works fine. Slow but fine.
NIS Problems
by Fer0m0ne - 2/10/06 5:35 AM In reply to: You want a list of problems with Norton.... by VernonEYes, I have also had to resort to reformatting the harddrive to get rid of Norton. I have used it since its inception but recent years have been frustrating. If you don't have IE6 cookie stop on, Norton does not keep out the cookies. The biggest frustration is the popups that recommend stopping some programs from reaching IP addresses that you know are good and many times that ask you what to do, allow or stop incoming IP addresses but you have no way to know what they are. Of the billions of IP addresses out there I have to have a better way to decide which to allow and which to stop than just an IP number. Norton's heavy footprint could have easily given a quick search of the IP databases and let me know at least if the IP address is from Russia or North Korea but why not some real information that could be given immediately. When IP addresses are mostly dynamic now, for me to later search for them does not always give me the truth about who tried to reach my computer. Are there better systems for this problem?
NIS problems
by Dobby - 2/10/06 11:57 AM In reply to: NIS Problems by Fer0m0neTry this program to verify if website you are accessing is legitimate or not...have been using it for quite a while now...works well with both MSIE and Firefox.
www.fraudeliminator.com
Norton problems
by Dobby - 2/10/06 11:48 AM In reply to: You want a list of problems with Norton.... by VernonETotally agree...Norton used to be the best out there...their Utilities programs were excellent; but, then the company was taken over by Symantec, and it was all downhill from there! Wait till you try to uninstall...it is like an octopus, with far-reaching tentacles which go who knows where! I would not have anything in my computer from Symantec, and have told many of my friends/cyberfriends the same thing!!!
Norton Ghost is Useless...
by dantaylor2004 - 2/10/06 4:11 AM In reply to: Norton - no prob.... by finalquestRegarding Norton - I tried to install Norton Ghost. It would not install properly, therefore I couldn't register it, so I couldn't get tech support, I could never make it work, and couldn't UNinstall it. I'm stuck with it in limbo.
Every Norton program that I have tried have been bad - I wish I had never given into Ghost. They are all 'machine invasive' - they take over when they don't need to. They also have their tech support set so that if you can't find your answer in their 'FAQ's', then you're on your own. I finally learned my lesson, the hard, long way. STAY AWAY FROM NORTON...
(They are on a lot of new machines because they PAY to get there. My first move is to REMOVE Norton with any new computer).
I've never had a problem with Ghost
by b8375629 - 2/12/06 5:08 PM In reply to: Norton Ghost is Useless... by dantaylor2004I've used Ghost for about a year now and haven't had any problem. NOT the Ghost that's part of the corrupt SystemWorks, but the Norton Ghost you buy as a seperate program.
Yes, anytime you install a new program that's designed to back up your hard drive, it's going to add keys to your registry. How can it not?
Just make sure you use Ghost 2003 on Win2000 or earlier ONLY!
And use Ghost 9.0 on XP, ONLY!
It's no wonder some people have problems with Ghost. They don't follow directions. You put the wrong version with the wrong OS version of Windows, you WILL have problems.
No problems here
by Lifelover1972 - 2/10/06 7:20 AM In reply to: Norton - no prob.... by finalquestI too have had no problems with Norton Internet Security or Systemworks. Norton has always stopped any malicious attack on my computer, and removed any virus I came across without a problem. To the other member who searches the internet for funny pictures and movies to send to friends and family: Do you download directly to your hard drive, or do you download to removable media and then scan the media for viruses and trojan horses? Also, how reputable is the site? Do they actively seek out malicious code on their site and remove it? These are things you may want to consider in the future.
yes problems with norton
by hlee - 2/10/06 11:02 AM In reply to: Norton - no prob.... by finalquest(1) my brother bought a new super computer .. but it didnt work .. lots of problems .. turned out to be norton problems .. i was shocked that there is no way to contact norton to explain the trouble or to get a fix ..we were on our own.. the fix was to reinstall the OS without norton ..
(2) a friend upgraded his def files from norton then had lots of problems .. i told him to wait ..norton would correct the problem .. which they did in a few days .. but then just a couple of weeks ago the same thing happened .. except now he couldnt even get on the net to dowload fixes ... in disbelief he allowed his laptop to be upgraded as well ... the laptop also lost internet capability .. in frustration he called me hoping for a magic fix ... i had him restore the system and now its working again .. but again i was SHOCKED that there is no way to contact norton and no way for an average joe to fix such a problem or to even report it ...
(3) an out of town friend had a crash .. i drove 140 miles to help him ... even though he had norton loaded he had 16 viruses and 1561 spywares ... i found that a virus had turned off his virus checker and addware checker .. in fact the virus came from a purchased anti addware product from the internet .. .. i got his money refunded ... this isnt particularly a norton problem but its scairy ...
(4) i use AVG and AVAST now .. no problems except AVAST (latest) has found two viruses that were not real .. or at least i dont think they are real .. how do you tell .. AVG and several other antivirus softwares dont find these problems ... is AVAST the only one that can catch these known viruses or is AVAST just wrong. a site that i reported to (avast found a virus inbeded in a photo on their site) told me that avast is a really good virus checker but is prone to false positives ... they found no such virus
wellll i now foolishly loaded norton on my new state of the art machine .. after reading the comments i am thinking about a complete reload ... but first i will test norton to see if all the bad press is true for their latest version .. (you would think i would already have learned) ...
what a shame that the good name Norton is being damaged .. hope they clean things up .. H
Norton used to be the best, but not the 2005.
by Shirley97128 - 2/10/06 2:03 AM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanI had been buying the Norton SystemWorks since 2001, they were great, I highly recommended the program. Last years 2005 never worked right, even with updates it never cured all the problems. And the ghost part of the program let me down when I really counted on it. The back up disks were prepared as the book directed, but when it came time to use them, there were problems never even referred to when they were created. When you pay that much for something, you expect the protection to work, this time it did not, in many ways. It stopped viruses, but not the worms.
I Totally Agree!
by Robert K - 2/10/06 5:23 AM In reply to: Norton used to be the best, but not the 2005. by Shirley97128I had a very similar experience. I also felt Norton was the very best from 2001 through 2004. But 2005 was a real problem, especially with the install. Once I got it to finally install properly on my laptop the performance slowed to a crawl. I found the same exact same problem with 2005 on my daughter's Athlon XP 2600 desktop. I ended up removing 2005 from my laptop after great difficulty getting most of the fragments of files the uninstall left in, and bought NAV 2003 off Ebay for a few bucks. That works perfectly! The rest of my computers now use AVG and for now I am very satisfied with it.
2006 An Improvement - So Far
by BunnyBuns - 2/27/06 7:52 AM In reply to: I Totally Agree! by Robert KI have used Norton for years and was generally happy with their products; however, I was frustrated with Internet Security 2005 for two primary reasons: 1. It was a huge resource hog - my computer slowed down dramatically after installing it; 2. About halfway through the year, I was no longer able to get updates. I was never able to figure out the problem (Forget getting help from Symantec. My experience has been that they never actually answer the question[s] you ask.), uninstalled the program, went through the process of removing all of the little bits dispersed throughout my hard drive, installed Zone Alarm - which also turned out to be a huge resource hog, but I needed some sort of security so I just kept it installed. In January, I switched back over to Norton and got Internet Security 2006. So far so good. Symantec seems to have resolved resource hog problems, and the program seems to be running smoothly and well without interferring with anything else I'm doing, unlike 2005.
A bit of advice, though: Never get the ''freebie'' programs Symantec offers each year with the purchase of Internet Security. They don't work, you'll start getting a lot of error messages for the programs even when not running them, generally they're garbage.
Cost is an issue
by Mark T - 2/10/06 2:03 AM In reply to: Norton. Why?. by murrmanI found the Norton AV product (which came free for a year with a PC I bought in 2003) very good. However, last year I went to re-subscribe for my definitions on the Symantec website. They said that my version was no longer supported and I would have to upgrade to the latest version at a cost of $62. With 3 machines on my home network - I followed CNET's advice and now use AVG - no problems so far...Do Symantec really expect us to pay so much for annual virus protection? I know it's important but...
Totally Agree
by Spockva - 2/10/06 2:45 AM In reply to: Cost is an issue by Mark TThat is the very reason I do not use Norton, every time you want to update your subscription, they want to stick a vacuum cleaner in your wallet. I am using AntiVir and it is working perfectly, and the new version has automation that is just wonderful. It now updates itself and does a complete scan every day while everyone is asleep and the computer is untended.
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