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Digital music: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't

by texasbrewhouse - 1/27/06 6:46 AM
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Post 1 of 15

why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't

by texasbrewhouse - 1/27/06 6:46 AM

Just curious why this is?

A while back i had some Sony CD-Rs i was burning music onto and some would play in my truck CD player, then some wouldn't.

So i switched to Memorex, burned a bunch of CDs and they played fine in my truck.

Ran out of those, bought some more Memorex, i'm pretty sure it was the EXACT same ones, and just like before, some play some don't. What the hell?

By the way, i use Nero for burning.

Thanks for the help

Post 2 of 15

This is noted in the CDR FAQ.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 1/27/06 8:47 AM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

http://www.cdrfaq.org/ notes this issue.

I found some improvement by recording at 1 or 2X and changing media brands. There is no known cure short of changing the player.

Bob

Post 3 of 15

Use Nero Info tool

by Ed Mead Moderator - 1/27/06 12:56 PM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

and see who makes the cdr's that will play in your truck. Memorex and others use different manufacturers to make their cdr's, so 1 lot will work, the next won't. Try Taiyo Yuden Silver Lacquer cdr's which work in almost all players.
http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=R&Category_Code=TAIYOYUDEN

Post 4 of 15

CD-Rs Vs CD Player

by spike2k5 - 2/3/06 2:15 AM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

Been there done that: I went through different brands of CD-Rs and recorded at different speeds... it was wasting alot of discs and my time....
I found that only good quality discs/slow burns worked in my car CD Player.. That was until I put a disc cleaner through my player (several times) and now it will play everything and anything.

Worth a try......

Spike2k5

Post 5 of 15

Copy protected CDs?

by pearl298 - 2/3/06 6:41 AM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

I have a 2006 Toyota Camry with the standard Toyota Radio/CD player.

The owner's manual warns against trying to play ''copy protected'' CDs in it!

I do know that I have had trouble playing sevral of my colection that turned out to have some form of sneaky ''copy protect''.

I have also had trouble with CR-Rs that had some sort of ''DRM'' built in.

Interstingly prated CD-Rs work just fine with good quality media!

It is too bad that the manufacturers aren't forced to own up to their nasty schemes on the box lable!

Post 6 of 15

Using nero

by jc1234 - 2/3/06 7:12 AM In reply to: Copy protected CDs? by pearl298

have you converted it to wav or use nero 6 which is a great buring tool, as it can make audio cd which play in all cd players and when you add it , it can normalize all the tracks, so there play at the same volume as song sound files might be diffrent volume, it also give you the optoin of having pause or or not bewteen music or more options.

Post 7 of 15

Another possibility--Use the "Random" play setting

by rholley13 - 2/3/06 7:26 AM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

I've found that some CD's will play correctly if I use the ''random'' setting instead of playing the tracks in sequential order. I don't know why this works, but it does. I confess to using cheap blank CD's, but I burn them at slow speeds to increase potential accuracy.

Post 8 of 15

ITS ALL ABOUT THE PLAYER - MOST OF THE TIME

by doctoryes - 2/3/06 9:44 AM In reply to: Another possibility--Use the "Random" play setting by rholley13

I used to be a engineer for CDR/W software for many years when CDR/W technology was developed. Here's the scoop. Most CD player manufactures use firmware writers right out of college to save money. Seasoned firmware writers ask for too much gold and move on. The learning curve for working firmware code is 6 months and mature code about 2 years.
The problem is time to market, so many players are shipped using firmware the has trouble reading unfamilar formats or if a bit is switched because of dirt, it doesn't know what to do.(bad error correction algorithm). CD players that has been around for a while have these bugs and features fixed. Buy from a mature model from brand name supplier and keep it clean. The previous post about cleaning the player was good advice. Usually, if you pay little more, you'll get what you expect.

Post 9 of 15

Clean the electronic eye....it works

by makgroom - 8/3/08 10:57 AM In reply to: Another possibility--Use the "Random" play setting by rholley13

I hope this helps but out of desperation I cleaned the electronic eye with a bit of rubbing alcohol on a soft cloth, wiped it dry gently and voila!! Every single CD which would not play before is playing.
I guess sometimes something simple does it.

Post 10 of 15

MP3 vs other formats

by TimmyCB - 2/3/06 10:05 AM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

Some incompatability has to do with file types. Many CD players will not play MP3 format data - regardless of their age. My car is a 2005 model, I don't know who makes the CD player but I am assuming it is fairly new. It plays CD/R WMF format files just fine but won't do a thing with MP3s - same media type and recorded on the same CD/R drive. If you are converting to MP3, try leaving the file in WAV or WMF format - might make a difference.

Post 11 of 15

CD-R's playing in Truck and some don't

by texasrowe - 2/3/06 2:40 PM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

Depends on if they were converted to wma or MP3's or whatever. sometimes I find they convert without asking and sometimes I forget to change them.

Post 12 of 15

I agree on the MP3 vs WMA format....

by jparkhill - 2/3/06 7:06 PM In reply to: CD-R's playing in Truck and some don't by texasrowe

Some players won't play MP3 at all, we all know that.

My experience with ROXIO EAsy CD Creator suggested you transfer MP3 files to RAM memory, then burn the final disk from there. That always worked for me. Audio is different than data recordings.

Also, let's not forget our default record settings that says Finalize the Disk or Leave it Open (for adding recording later...) If the disk is not Closed or Finalized, it probably will give you trouble in some players.

Everyone forgets to clean the player! There's some good advice in this thread today...

Jan

Post 13 of 15

What No One is mentioning...

by bigpoppa - 2/3/06 3:16 PM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

Well, 2 things. One was mentioned, ALWAYS burn at a slower speed. The older wise ones told me never never never burn faster than 8X but also you can burn too slow so 1x is not always advisable.

But you MUST burn your CDRs in DAO (Disc At Once) mode and finalize the disc. Do not burn it in TAO (track at once) mode...this is where most people make that mistake.

I am a DJ and depend on quality burns for my CD players. I use all kinds of cheap media and have never had a single problem unless I forget to check which mode I am burning in. I have CDs that work in my professional equipment as well as my car and my computer.

Post 14 of 15

It could be the hardware, maybe

by BuddS - 2/4/06 10:31 AM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

My car stereo is also a changer and NAV system. I recorded a CD, combining a two disc set into one, maxing the time to 79 min. It didn't play in the car. A few month later, a paper label in the CD changer prompted a replacement of the entire unit. Guess what, the CD played in the new unit. My silly, wild guess is that the new unit, which was identical in every way I could see, probably had a new version of firmware.

I could see how different dyes and manufacturing techniques could make a CD-R unlpayable in some devices, but theoritically, if the dics carries the Compact Disc logo, then it meets the same specs the hardware is using. Therefore, I would guess that the problem is 60% hardware, 40% disc related.

Post 15 of 15

re:why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't

by mira_mirense - 2/4/06 2:16 PM In reply to: why do some CD-Rs play in truck cd player and some don't by texasbrewhouse

A few years back I came up with the same problem! The fix was to make sure that audio CD was never created over 6X to 8X speed and every CD after that worked great.

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