I am purchasing a new large screen HDTV (60" - 73") and my choices so far are either the Samsung or Mitsubish DSP's or the Sony SXRD LCos. Would appreciate any comments.
Jack
So far the Sony and JVC LCoS sets have the best pricture.
The way for you to decide is to go and see them side by side if you can. John
http://www.jvc.com/product.jsp?productId=PRD4208502&pathId=125
Hello
I have looked into the Sony KDS60XBR1 and other sets for three months. I finally had the chance to see the sony, jvc (both lycos) and mitsu (dlp)sets side by side each recieving the same signal. The sony has the best picture...end of discusion. The JVC is (close) second. The mitsu is good but has a darker overall presentation than the other two. The mitsu's color not as vivid. None capture the detail, light & dark contrast like the sony.
You are absolutely right on about the SONY picture. Have gone to several places to compare HDTVs side by side. You can pick out the SONY SXRD from a mile away. I bought the 50" one a month ago and have been totally pleased. Even better at home since I can set it up to my tastes.
My wife is extremely critical of colors and feels that SONY is the only TV that "gets the reds right".
LITTLE THINGS GOING WRONG!!!
TEXAS INSTRUMENTS developed the DLP technology, using a million little mirrors, a lamp, and a color-wheel. Great to watch in the store; but would you really want to buy one???
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I'm gonna have to agree with you there, having bought a SAMSUNG 43" DLP 3 years ago for $4999 and having to spend $1100 last week to get it out of the shop because the part with the fancy chip with all the transistors went on the fritz. I can't understand a company making something that can cost you $1000 to repair because a single component in it is so expensive and is the one that breaks on you. No breaks to be had either from the vendor. it's 3 years old, too bad they said.
Go check out the Hewlitt Packard 1080p DLP's. They have the best PQ when it comes to DLP's hands down. Some say the only TV to compare the HP to is the Sony Qualia 06 which is 13K. I don't know about that but I can say it will give the SXRD a run for it's money. I haven't seen the JVC but have heard good things about them also. Good Luck.
JVC was the first out with Lcos ( Liquid Crystal on Silicone) and their latest is the 3 or 4th generation. (Model HD61FH96) This is Sonys first Lcos model.
All reports I have read point to Lcos over DLP.
I am now trying to compare the JVC vs Sony 61" Lcos Rear Projection TV to see which is really the best. One disapointment, during the summer JVC had said that the new 1080ip TV would be in the $4,500.00 area, and now they say $5,500.00. The Sony is reported at $5,000.00
I want to lean towards JVC because of their experience, but I am not sure now.
So, I noticed this post from November and that you are an optical engineer. I was wondering if you have done any further research or have purchased the LCoS. The JVC sounds mighty nice and is now cheaper than the Sony. I just found a price of $3300 plus $300 shipping for the 61" (HD61FH96). Sony is about $5000 for a comparable model. Any further comments?
My family and I have been using a JVC 61" 1080P (HD-61FH96) for about 10 days. After carefully studying the available sets, we narrowed our choice to three: the Mitsubishi 1080p DLP’s versus the Sony 1080P XBR’s versus the JVC .
I will tell you in advance that I am predisposed towards Sony. I have owned perhaps a dozen of their products over the past 35 years, and cannot remember even a single product failure. Nonetheless, there were issues that drove us away from Sony that I will address letter. Additionally, the very impressive “canned” Mitsubishi 1080P firwewire demo coupled with strong endorsements from our local B-Screen store also encouraged us to seriously consider the Mitsubishi.
First and foremost, none of them will accept a true 1080P input as the current generation of HDMI inputs (with only 1 or 2 exceptions) is still bandwidth limited to 1080i. However, ultimately, the pictures on all three of these sets is so very good, that my wife and I decided that the current generation was “good enough”. Keep in mind that all three of these sets has a fill ratio greater than 90% and their pictures are noticeably free of any “screendoor” effect. You have to study these sets for a while before the differences become apparent. Note that our feeds included 1080i satellite via HDMI ; and 480P DVD via component RGB video. Here are our conclusions regarding the JVC:
The JVC clearly has the most vivid and intense colors coupled with very black blacks. In a word, the display is Gorgeous. In fact, to some people the colors may appear too intense. However, the set (and remote) also include a function called “TheatrePro” wherein with a single push of the button, the brightness, contrast, and color intensities can be toned down to industry standard (6500) levels used by movie theaters. We find that we use the TheatrePro at night, but during the day we regularly exploit the JVC’s superior brightness and color intensity capabilities to compensate for the ambient sunlight in our family room that would otherwise wash-out many competing Rear Projection Displays. On the negative side, with some live video feeds, there was a slight tendency of the set to overdrive red (requiring manual adjustment of hue and color intensity), and occasionally a slight graininess apparent when panning light colored background scenes.
When feeding the set a progressive scan (480P) DVD , the pictures were again gorgeous. In fact, so good, that I’m not sure I’ll be willing to invest too much extra money for a BlueRay or HD DVD.
The remote is a mixed bag. I could not get the available codes to work with our DirectTV HD receiver nor our older Sony Pro-logic receiver. Additionally, key functions are somewhat scattered around the remote. On the plus side, the remote has full backlighting and easy one button access to very important functions such as aspect ratio; picture mode (intensity) and sound field. In the end, I purchased Theater Master MX500 for $99 and used the JVC remote to manually teach the special one-button functions to the MX500.
The stock sound of the built –in JVC speakers is surprisingly good (better than the Sony), and the sound-field functions are very usable including settings for talk; movies; or music. We observe that the “talk” setting does an excellent job of squelching ambient music or sound effects. Although I have excellent hearing, I have already learned that the “talk” setting can dramatically improve a viewer’s ability to hear soft speech when watching movies with difficult to hear soundtracks.
Finally, we get to the issue of “packaging”. Herein is the problem with the Sony which incorporates speaker “wings” on each side of the main cabinet that have the effect of increasing the width of the Sony to 66” versus only 57.25” for the JVC. Whereas the JVC will easily fit into a wall-unit with a 60” stand, the Sony will not. Additionally, the JVC cabinetry is a uniform unobtrusive matt black finish whereas the Sony includes a glossy black frame and silver speaker wings. Some people may prefer the looks of the Sony, but we found that the glossy trim and silver wings were distracting.
SUMMARY: All three sets had very good pictures but we believe that the Sony and JVC sets were slightly better than the Mitsubishi. The Sony and JVC sere very comparable. However, the JVC appeared brighter with more vivid colors. (Both sets seemed to display detail better than the Mit DLP.) On the other hand, the occasional graininess that we discerned on the JVC was not present on the Sony.
CONCLUSION: If you watch TV primarily in the dark, and the wide Sony cabinet is not an issue for you, you may prefer the Sony. However, if your set will be located in a room with ambient sunlight, and/or you are space limited, the JVC has the advantage. I believe that both are superior to the Mit DLP. Overall, our family is ecstatic with the performance of this set.
Richard Rothschild
And you used the term bandwidth correctly!!!!
Last year when I was searching for my HDTV my experience was similar to yours. Only there weren't any 1080p sets to be found at the time.
If found the LCoS sets to be the best of the micro-display RP sets. John
After a year of searching for that perfect disply I bought the Toshiba 72HM195 d/l/p/ set. To me the J.V.C looked stunning but I wanted a 70" + screen size (for that movie theater experience) I did find a Sony 70" but it looked horrible very dim and found out Sony dropped it Iam so happy with my d.l.p. set razor sharp tons of color and super brite. But it seems in this chat room when you metion d.l.p everyone thinks they look like **** I disigree have a nice tirkey day steweeeee
Am always comparing my XBR2 60" to my brother's JVC 70" both rear projection LCD's. We both have have an HD signal, his is from a hard line mine from satelite. I now realize that I will never get the vivid colors that he has, the clarity on mine is better on "non" HD channels. Realising that my smaller screen is the reason for that, but still. I wish I could find the best brightness setting. His set is in a blacked out basement setting, while as mine is susceptable to light during the day.
What do I adjust first brightness or picture to get to the finner tunning..both adj. seem to coincide with each other. Think I am getting closer to the multipple adjs there are so many on the Sony. Sorry if this sounds clueless. I have owned the set for a year and only now getting to this point.
LCos is Liquid Crystal on Silicon. Not silicone.
Maybe we can now get a crystal clear image on implants?
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