Community weekly poll: Do antivirus software developers create viruses?
- 7/27/05 3:33 PM
Probably not
by Amos16 - 11/25/05 1:41 AM In reply to: Do antivirus software developers create viruses? by Marc Bennett
because they are bound to be found out in this age of boundless communications. Amos.
Bill Clinton?
by bluumax - 11/25/05 1:50 AM In reply to: Probably not by Amos16Didn't stop Bill, just lie some more.
Who ever makes the $$, will be sided with.
Poeple like having full pockets.
Anti Virus Makers, making Viruses
by scribb - 11/25/05 1:47 AM In reply to: Do antivirus software developers create viruses? by Marc Bennett
Seems simple enough to me. It's to their economical welfare/advantage. What does the US Govt do in many criminal cases? It hires (and pays them) the criminal minds. People.....get out of the caves. Your Govt and big business are alive and well "for their WELL-being....not your's" . Here's another hint to help you....US GOvt deported about 190,000 people in less than 18 months from USA. NOT ONE was a male, arab, muslim....yet all the attacks on US here and abroad in last 10 years have been done by:...you guessed it: Male, arab, islamic men.
But deporting illegal Mexicans (about 90% of those deported) and central americans...and refusing to let them have driver's licenses is apparently our Gov't's way or winning the war on terrorism. Everybody MUST truly realize that all illegals hispanics working: cleaning laundry, planes, janitors, etc. ARE THE MOST POTENTIAL THREAT TO US SECURITY. Nuff said. Thanks for listening. SBC
Yep
by bluumax - 11/25/05 1:58 AM In reply to: Anti Virus Makers, making Viruses by scribbIf our Gov't wanted something stopped, it would stop NOW.
Viruses/drugs make $$ Antivirus/rehab etc.
Face it, if we wanted to stop drugs coming across the border it would stop. an ant couldn't fart in the desert without our knowing about it.
They could stop viruses so fast it isn't even funny.
You can't hide where apps originate. They could be tracked & killed in nanosecond.
Antivirus
by hanshoff - 11/25/05 1:57 AM In reply to: Do antivirus software developers create viruses? by Marc Bennett
How com that ther is a fix more or less redy imediatly
See Subject
by scribb - 11/25/05 2:09 AM In reply to: Do antivirus software developers create viruses? by Marc Bennett
Corporations are like the Govt...but more conniving, sinister, corrupt,unscrupulous,greedy and without morals. They'll do anything to get a bigger buck. Ask former Enron...etc. employees.
Sorry, I forgot to ask you if you think Bush and Cheney ever think of what their decisions in the Iraq/Gulf War has on "big oil, ie, gigantic profits and possibly a self-serving future supply of oil for the USA" and "Halliburton's benefits ",(maybe "meals" and war material at the US Public expense?). The entire BUSH/CHENEY families would do well, considering their influence and past neg. history in profiteering from oil and Govt insider influence.
People.....wake up....Love your country....but never trust a politician/CEO. No one gives them money/positions for their great looks! (they're bought and sold like commodities on the stock exchange. Souls and holes to the highest bidder.) SBC
you have a burr under your saddle
by Johnwit - 12/2/05 5:35 AM In reply to: See Subject by scribbSBC, you are showing your intelligence level and it isn't good. Think about what you are going to type before you actually type it. Try to throw in some factual details and not just make a statement about your beliefs or feelings.
You Americans ! Does your ideology predominate?
by damianww - 12/2/05 5:23 PM In reply to: See Subject by scribbHere we have yet another American blaming his democratically elected government for all the worlds ills. Someone correct me if i am wrong...but do you ALL bring politics into what was (i thought) a discussion about VP?
I am Australian, proud of it & frankly care little who your president of the day is. Down here we have, & exercise the right to criticise our government of the day but mostly we refrain from the bitter personal attacks you blokes appear to revel in. If they fail us we simply vote 'em out come election time.
But, some Americans i reckon would blame their government if they (shock horror) woke up one morning with a severe case of dandruff.
As an MD i advise...lay back a little, relax take a chill pill.
Finally, if i may quote one of your very own....
"Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly". (Robert F Kennedy)
A little knowledge is a very dangerous thing Australian
by Dena Yuriga - 12/2/05 10:03 PM In reply to: You Americans ! Does your ideology predominate? by damianwwI really don't think you have any business scolding us for something you know very little about. Mr. Bush was not elected. He paid Diebold and another safe company (in favors) to manufacture his voting machines. In Democratic wards, some of the machines started going backward once they reached 8000 votes. There were examples of counties with only 3500 voters where Bush got 35,000 votes. The governor or whatever he was of Iowa, Blackwell or something like that happens to be a part of the Bush administration. The voting machines specially built for Bush had no paper trail. Believe me it is pretty hard to vote out a tyrant. I liken the Bush administration to all the governments that are fighting against democratic elections. Before you critize, I advise that you study up. You only show your ignorance when you assume. I have a few quotes for you; "I am approached with the most opposite opinions and advice, and by men who are equally certain that they represent the divine will. I am sure that either the one or the other is mistaken in the belief, and perhaps in some respects, both. I hope it will not be irreverent of me to say that if it is probable that God would reveal his will to others on a point so connected with my duty, it might be supposed he would reveal it directly to me." Abraham Lincoln
"Following the laws of the land and your government with loyalty should not mean becoming a blind sheep to an unjust government." Shanatahani
"Man is wise only while in search of wisdom; when he imagines he has attained it, he is a fool." Ibn Gabrol, "Mibhar Hapaeninim"
"He does not believe, that does not live according to his belief" Thomas Fuller
I can apply each of these to our present adminstration. Oh yes, one more. "question authority"
You have proved my point, thank you !!
by damianww - 12/3/05 5:25 PM In reply to: A little knowledge is a very dangerous thing Australian by Dena YurigaWhatever you say sir/madam. ( wink, wink, nudge nudge)
But 'scolding' is hardly the appropriate word....amazement at your ability to turn an AV discussion thread into political point scoring was my point.
Now not only have YOU done that but you are 'bible bashing' me as well. Rememeber the thread...VP, focus please.
As i said i care little who your president or Government is...however one thing i do remember when your current president WAS democratictally elected was the huge vote he received from the Pentacostal Christians church members...some even said he only won the election because of that massive endorsement.
I guess that makes these religious people disciples & therefore henchmen ( & women) of this 'evil tyrant'.
Thank you for the advise,but no even though i did spend 5 years practicing medicine in your great country, i do not feel the need to 'study up' as u so eloquently put it on the American political system.... too many vicious, malignent & feral people make up the constituency especially when they are on the losing side.
But i thank you for your post, the absurdity of it proved my initial comments....and you did give me cause to treat myself to a good laugh.
My time is valuable so rest assured this 'ignorant' Australian whose 'little knowledge is dangerous' shall NOT be responding again to this debate on(cough cough)virus protection.
Have a happy day & please DO remember to take your chill pill.. it won't cure your persecution & conspiracy obsession but it sure will not atrophy your condition.
You missed the point of scribb's message...
by MicahW - 12/3/05 8:23 AM In reply to: You Americans ! Does your ideology predominate? by damianwwThe truth is most people on the planet blame our government for their woes, BUT that wasn’t the point of scribb’s message. He was simply pointing out that large corporations, just like governments, look out for themselves and cannot be trusted to always do what is in the best interest of the public.
I am sure that even in Australia there has been an occasion where a politician made an unsavory decision that negatively affected the greater good. With that in mind you should understand scribb’s point.
Thank you MicahW
by scribb - 12/11/05 12:22 AM In reply to: You missed the point of scribb's message... by MicahWYou put my thoughts in writing much better than I did.
The ability to "build it, they'll buy it" is not dead in the USA, no matter what the scam is or who is the scammer. Thanks, Scribb
Morons .. said it b4 and say it again
by king guru - 11/25/05 2:43 AM In reply to: Do antivirus software developers create viruses? by Marc Bennett
You get one moron who bleats out the BS theory of Norton and probably MacAfee and Trend Micro all conspiring to part people from their money by creating infections to justify the annual subscription fees and what happens? With some exceptions, a whole bunch of mindless sheep follow the lead and shout ''of course they are''. Lord spare me from the armchair IT gurus who think they know it all yet the truth is you could fit their knowledge on one tenth of a pinhead.
First of all I have no love for Symantec. I am an ex employee and with the exception of many of my former colleagues who I still consider friends, I have no warm or fuzzy spot of love for that company and my reasons are my own.
But here is what gets me so mad about you pea brains who spread this garbage or encourage others to do the same. The lies you write are not at a brand name, they are at the people who work for those companies. People make companies, not the brand and by creating these lies its not the brand you attack, its the people that you discredit and throw mud on their reputations.
How dare you infer that I or my friends deliberately with conscious intent created infections in order to deceive or commit fraud on subscribers. You have no more right to cast that accusation at me than I have to call any of you pedophile perverts.
Where is your proof? Why is it that not one ex employee of any AV product hasn't come out and said ''Hey guess what? The infections that plague the net are created by us for the sole purpose of ensuring that our employers keep their beamers and fancy houses''.
To the fools who suggest we were rolling in money. Hey I have a mortgage and a car loan and I can tell you neither property is that impressive. And then there's the real reverse MENSA candidates who conclude that definitions are resolved and released within 48 hours and that in itself is proof surely! Where did 48 hours come from? That was never a benchmark time average to resolving infections and in any event in reality you're complaining about a quick response time!!! So if we took 4 days or a week you wouldn't think we were crooks, just slack.
You got the proof, then put it out there and take it to the authorities. Otherwise STFU, get a clue and grow up. Because I don't want some person at some time in the future read my CV and say, ''Hey tough luck sport, you missed out on the job that you’re supremely qualified for because there is a general perception that you participated in fraud when you worked at Symantec'' And all thanks to the fools who spread this vile garbage.
You're pathetic and you have no idea what you're talking about.
I understand your point very well
by 2003Denise - 11/25/05 4:06 AM In reply to: Morons .. said it b4 and say it again by king guruBut you are not making it in an effective way. People do not like to be attacked, and your entire post feels like a personal attack. Perhaps if you restated it in a less emotional way, people would be more inclined to understand your meaning. I have been guilty of this many times myself, so I understand. As I see it, you believe that people are being paranoid and making assumptions when they have no evidence to back it up. I agree. But people will have a tendency to react in an emtional (not a rational) manner when faced with statements that are clearly emotionally charged. Therefore you do your point little justice.
I agree with Denise
by sidey - 11/25/05 7:26 PM In reply to: Morons .. said it b4 and say it again by king guruI think she has a good point and youre not doing yourself or your argument any favors by making attacks. However, if I imagine for a moment what my feelings would be in your position I have to admit I would be pretty annoyed too. All the same you should tone it down.
As for the substance of your comment. I agree, a lot of what is said by the pro conspiracy group is stupid and it doesnt make sense. But youre always going to get those who shoot off their mouth before engaging the brain and they dont as a rule consider individuals.
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