Community weekly poll: Do antivirus software developers create viruses?
- 7/27/05 3:33 PM
Then
by sidey - 11/25/05 7:37 PM In reply to: IT IS SAID MANY WORDS - NO SUBSTANCE by ronaldpmakiDon't read as is your right. But why do you think anyone cares when you complain about it.
Thank you
by trolsen - 11/25/05 7:32 PM In reply to: What a bunch of sheep some of you are by king guruI totally agree with you and your expression of common sense. Unintelligent tripe from people who can't think without being told what to think is the reason this world has so many fools in it.
"Here Here for King Guru"
Thomas Olsen
I see your point and agree but
by sidey - 11/25/05 7:40 PM In reply to: What a bunch of sheep some of you are by king guruYoure probably a tad too heavy with your venom dude.
Other than that I think youre right and have raised a point most people havent considered. Especially the "morons".
viruses
by gizmoj12 - 11/25/05 8:31 PM In reply to: What a bunch of sheep some of you are by king guruYeap! Reading your post makes me believe that guys like you probably do create these viruses.
Something that big wouldn't stay secrete very long
by mikeman400 - 11/25/05 11:49 PM In reply to: What a bunch of sheep some of you are by king guruCome on people, if norton or any other big company was writing viruses someone would have squealed by now. One person alone has a hard enough time keeping a Lie to themselves. Immagine how many people would be involved in something like a virus departmemnt.. :!
This topic was probably promoted just to get everybody all excited. That is how alot of theses c-net poles are. Just a bunch of crap.. 
Careful on the personal attacks, King Guru.
by Dave Konkel [Moderator] - 11/26/05 9:07 AM
In reply to: What a bunch of sheep some of you are by king guru
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virus?, anti virus?, conspiracy?, paranoria?,
by abobble2 - 11/25/05 6:17 PM In reply to: conspiracy by lazychris2000I have been using computers since 1992 and i have never ran an anti virus program on my computers.
I recently downloaded CA anti virus program. It is the first of such programs that i have ever installed..
I have more of a problem with spyware than virus's.
After reading most of the post herein i have come to the conclusion that most folks are in a panic of virus's, more so, than actually ever getting one.
After installing a anti virus program and running it, it concluded that my computer was clean. So i therefore also conclude that if i can run a computer all those years without a virus protector and not have one invade my computers, then i have no reason to suspect any anti virus product producer would need to create a virus, in order to sell... But what do i know, maybe i should not stay online for 14 hours a day, or else one of those reputable companies may deem it is necessary to twist my arms and/or cripple my legs to make me buy one.
Thanks for letting me put my two nickles in. Have a happy sunny day.
Abobble
Ha ha good for you ...
by sidey - 11/26/05 2:24 AM In reply to: virus?, anti virus?, conspiracy?, paranoria?, by abobble2If I had your luck I would be buying a ticket in the biggest lottery draw I could find. Fact is your story is very much the exception to the rule and please don't misunderstand im not doubting your honesty, just that I wouldnt be suggesting to anyone that they take the risk you have.
I Have Suspicions
by Speakerboxx - 8/6/05 2:25 AM In reply to: Definitley by m.afshariIt's logical to assume that they would. I don't think that all viruses are created by Anti-Virus software developers. If they are creating viruses, trojans, spyware, etc. the only benefet is to scare today's computer users into buying the software. I use anti-virus software. and i probably always will. But i definatly think that there is some "funny buisness" involved weather its paying people into writing viriuses, or writhing them themselves.. Like i said before, I have suspicions.
Suspicion
by Mark Donovan - 11/25/05 11:42 AM In reply to: I Have Suspicions by SpeakerboxxIt would be lucrative and logical for anti-virus companies to create viruses. Prescription drug companies do something similar... first thay create a disease in the minds of patients through aggressive advertising, then they sell the miracle cure. Ethically, both techniques are reprehensible.
In general, the conflict-of-interest image of the computer security industry is hurt when anti-virus and related companies hire "reformed" ex-virus writers as experts and consultants.
We know the software industry suffers from two related problems: cash flow and lack of growth. Microsoft is an example; having saturated the market, Microsoft can't sell ever more copies of Office or even Office updates. However, if one can sell software that always needs updates, cash flow is guaranteed!
It's not beyond the realm of possibility that a corporate exec trying to improve profits would decide to help product sales by creating new "patients" who need the "cure." So, yes, I'm also suspicious.
Interesting point Mark but ...
by sidey - 11/26/05 8:30 AM In reply to: Suspicion by Mark DonovanIssuing of updates for software isnt exclusive to Microsoft just in case you haven't noticed. So has Mac and Linux, so has Firefox and Ad Aware ... wow guess what? They all do regardless of being free or not.
hi there this true
by loulou71 - 11/25/05 8:03 AM In reply to: Definitley by m.afshariif they would not do tthis they would not make any money!
That's it?
by sidey - 11/26/05 8:24 AM In reply to: hi there this true by loulou71That is your proof that they create virus infections to make money? This is true because you say so?
Hmmmm. Well why didn't you say so earlier? We could all have saved time and moved on to another issue had we known loulou71 was going to proclaim the truth.
Why not?????
by johe110 - 11/25/05 8:48 AM In reply to: Definitley by m.afshariYou can't be serious. Do you really think Norton, McAfee, etc. would risk their entire business on such a foolhardy scheme? There are plenty of others creating enough viruses to keep their business going strong without running the risk of losing everything on the chance of being caught doing it. I think the major anti-virus software companies do an outstanding job of preventing and eliminating viruses from their customers computers.
Personally, I believe all those conspiracy theorists have the mindset to do exactly what they believe others are doing if they are given the chance.
John Y
Needs more thought
by glower - 11/25/05 9:12 AM In reply to: Definitley by m.afshariYou post needs more thought; there is a very good reason why an anti-viral developer would not participate in creating their own virus: trust.
Think of it this way, would you pay Norton Anti-Virus if you found out they were writing viruses? I know I would not trust them, and I bet a majority of people would avoid them like a chicken with the sniffles. The natural response, I suspect, would be for people to migrate to a competitor.
Though interested in profits, it would be corporate suicide to get caught in such a scandal, thus it would be the very same interest in profits that stops them from doing such. Were I you, I would be more concerned about the government getting producing and distributing spy-ware then than an anti-virus software developer trying to pad their profits masquerading as their nemesis.
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