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Compatible Catridges
by drwho - 11/18/05 11:26 AM In reply to: Compatible inks cartridges? by Gerald BrimacombeL O L ! ! YEAH... you just keep on believing all that HYPE that only the GENUINE MFG's cartridges are good enuf while I laugh all the way to the bank!! . For the cost of ONE overpriced MFG cartridge, I can get TWO compatible cartridges!!
Then we have these HP 3-in-one color catridges which force you to replace them when only ONE of the 3 inks in them has run out. Oh not to mention they are very expensive cause they have the printhead on the cartridge instead of inside the printer.
I have been using compatibles from 123INKJETS.COM on all three of my EPSON printers for years and have never had any problems with them at all.
Hard to believe!
by Gerald Brimacombe - 11/22/05 7:50 AM In reply to: Compatible Catridges by drwhoI have known too many users of "compatible inks" who have wound up with serious problems with their printers and resulting fugitive colors to give your response any credibility.
That was 5 years ago
by b8375629 - 11/20/05 1:00 PM In reply to: not entirely true by steve66Try buying a new Epson today and see what results you get.
good point
by steve66 - 11/27/05 8:01 PM In reply to: That was 5 years ago by b8375629I hadn't thought of that. well, when I do need a new printer, I'll check out some reviews (and tips here as well)
canon&epson
by berall - 11/18/05 4:22 AM In reply to: Dont buy an Epson printer by eeffisI know different models of epson inkjet printers, and if you don't use them every day (black and colour) the inner
printhead dries.
with hp no problem you change the head and the cartridge.
My first epson last for 7 years ( i give it to a friend who use it really often...).
now i have a laser printer BW and an hp deskjet that I refill, AND if it last 2 months whitout printing ,it runs
well when i decide to use it.
I try to repair 3 epsons and 1 canon (dry) nothing to do... putting the heads in solvant , sending it with pressure... nothing.
canon&epson inkjet is attractive for low price BUT don't change cartrige, put it in the trash and by a new one it's less expensive.
printer costs
by rgorman - 11/18/05 6:47 AM In reply to: canon&epson by berallI have a 5 year old Epson i740 printer. Rather than pay ridiculous prices for cartridges I buy them from one of the many cartridge sellers. With 4$ instead of 30$ cartridges it is much less expensive
Now I also have had a Canon i960 for 7 months.
I use cartridges that cost less than 3$ and so far the photos look great.
Don't use solvents !
by altini_s1 - 11/18/05 4:52 PM In reply to: canon&epson by berall1)-Use genuine cartridges
2)-Use the printer at least weekly (print test page)
3)-iIf printhead dryes, try putting it over a damp cloth(water, don't use alcohol-solvents), maybe all night!
4)My opinion,HP generally had beter printers .
Epson printers: another opinion
by twyrick - 11/18/05 5:08 AM In reply to: Dont buy an Epson printer by eeffisI've been doing computer service and support since long before the first inkjet printer was on the market. I can tell you that a good 50% of the problem with Epson printers and clogs/failures to print are due to people trying to use generic cartridges or ink refill kits.
Traditionally, Epson printers have been built with smaller-diameter print nozzles than their counterparts from HP (and initially, even Canon - though that's changed in recent years). That's one reason Epson kept winning top honors in the "best photo quality prints" contests held by magazines. If you can print smaller "dots" of ink on the page, the results look sharper.
But the downside is, smaller nozzles mean easier clogging (and a tougher time getting it unclogged!). On my old Epson Stylus Photo 800, I had to go through 10-12 cleaning cycles to get black printing properly again (and used up over a 3rd. of a new cartridge doing it!) whenever it clogged up. Using a sub-standard quality ink has always been a sure way to gum them up quickly.
I think Epson has done something to try to address this issue with more recent model printers. I remember older Epson Stylus printers practically *always* needing a few cleaning cycles before they would print properly, if they sat over 48 hours or so without printing something. But the Photo 820 I'm using now has relatively little problem.
Love mine
by Jerrysr - 11/18/05 5:10 AM In reply to: Dont buy an Epson printer by eeffisI love my Epsons. Have 2 right now R320 and 6600 had a 880 prior and it is still going. Their service is great. I had a Stylus that died just after the 2 year warranty had expired and they fixed it and sent new ink with it for free.
EPSON printers
by drwho - 11/18/05 11:08 AM In reply to: Dont buy an Epson printer by eeffisI have to refute your take on EPSON printers!! They are the ONLY BRAND I will buy!! I have had several Cannon's that all malfunctioned within a few months of average use.
While HP's all have the printhead built-in to the cartridge, that doubles the cost of their consumables. Speaking of which, the GENERIC cartridges you buy from 123INKJETS.COM for all brands of printers are just as good as the MFG's but at a fraction of their bloated price.
As for all those EPSON printers you are getting back, I would guess the people returning them have the IQ of DUBYA and do not think of calling Epson Customer Care first. My most recent experience with them was nothing short of exemplary! They took a STYLUS CX5200 that I had bought at a GOODWILL Store and replaced the Magenta/RED printhead at NO COST TO ME! They even provided the Prepaid Shipping label for FedEx Ground service.
Who knows, did they do it because I have a long history of Loyalty with them (I register every printer I buy) or just because they stand behind their products?? Either way, if people don't pick up the phone and call, they will never know...
Epson Printers
by bjrp - 11/18/05 3:02 PM In reply to: Dont buy an Epson printer by eeffisI have had Epson printers in my house for the last 10 years and would use nothing else!! The quality is far superior to other brands, the individual ink tanks are cost effective and they produce great results!!! My daughter received a high end (approximate cost $400) HP printer about a year and half ago for her birthday; it spent 90% of the time in the shop for repairs and finally crapped out for good about a month ago. This was supposed to be a very high end printer and it was a piece of junk! I HIGHLY recommend Epson for home use all the way!
What do I say?
by jfordorl - 11/20/05 5:59 PM In reply to: Epson Printers by bjrpI had the original Epson Stylus Color since they came out. Paid $510 for it. Yes, the printhead holes were BIG back then, but it worked flawlessly. Two years ago when I just had it up to here trying to find ink for it locally I finally gave up on it when I then bought an inexpensive HP 5550 and the difference in print quality was astounding, but the price of ink cartridges is much more as well - so I now buy a 3-pack at Sam's Club and am a happy camper!
Agreed!
by Gerald Brimacombe - 11/22/05 8:04 AM In reply to: Dont buy an Epson printer by eeffisI couldn't agree more with your assessment of Epson printers. I've struggled with a couple of them, including the 2200,and found them requiring never-ending adjustments with continuing poor results. It amazes me that so many photographers swear by them, when, in fact, they are cheaply made and undependable. I am currently using the i9900 Canon printer, and it blows anything Epson has to offer right out of the water. I am also using Kodak's Professional Inkjet Paper (luster surface) with outstanding results.
Epson Loses Ink Scam in Court
by user06 - 5/20/06 5:01 PM In reply to: Dont buy an Epson printer by eeffisAfter realizing my epson cx 6400 indicates color cartridges are running out even though we only print black and white documents, and then makes you replace the unused/still full color cartridges before you can print again in black and white, I posted that news to CNET.
Now comes the Los Angeles Superior Court class action suit in which epson agrees to compensate epson owners with a measley epson credit, which in no way comes near to compensating our office for the color cartridge losses we have and will incur if we continue to use these terrible machines.
This printer is a loser, epson is a loser - and our 6400 is going in the dumpster.
Mine Never Die
by chrisg53 - 11/18/05 2:44 AM In reply to: Why don't printers last ?? by henry higginsI'm always giving away printers that are older models. My current "Main" printer is an Epson Stylus CX5400 that I print about 100 sheets a day for the past two years. Have an HP LaserJet 4000, HP OfficeJet T45 with Fax, and an HP DeskJet 940C that won't die. All have printed Ten's of Thousands of copies. I guess you just have bad luck with them!
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