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Desktops: Dual or single core

by karlmarx - 10/21/05 1:12 PM
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Post 46 of 60

OF COURSE DUAL CORE

by Eddiefromalienwarecomps - 11/18/05 4:06 PM In reply to: Dual or single core by karlmarx

Wow all the things that you listed you wanted to do on your pc such a media and office tasks is why dual core is even here. Dual core allows you to multitask and quite frankly I can't put this in an easier way, get the AMD X2 4800+

Post 47 of 60

fx55 is a gaming processor

by aaarg - 11/19/05 12:27 AM In reply to: Dual or single core by karlmarx

the fx55 is a gaming beast, but the other is awesome as well. regardless of what others think, they are both 64 bit processors, so unless your are a hard core gamer (seriously hard core, which if you were i wouldnt think you would be asking) you should go with the dual core. you will kick yourself if you pay a ton for something you really dont need.

dual core is the future, fx is the best for gaming for now...4800+ is the beast of the future

ps. if you dont plan to overclock your machine to squeeze a frame or two per second from half-life you dont need an fx, but you will definitely benefit from the other dual cores.

Post 48 of 60

32bit OS on 64bit cpu?

by brit0n - 11/19/05 7:56 AM In reply to: Dual or single core by karlmarx

If you are BUYING a computer, it is unlikely you would get this problem as I can't find any manufacturers who do not supply an OS taking full advantage of the processor's abilities.

If you are BUILDING a computer, this question needs an answer in addition to your one.

I read in a recent issue of a technical magazine an article recommending cheap but powerful configuration for a new PC build. In that article, they ended up designating an AMD 64 bit processor but then installed WinXP Home on it (32 bit OS on 64 bit CPU). I was interested as the build I am currently designing appears to "require" 64bit simply because within it's lifetime I would have to upgrade to that anyway (I don't want to go down the dual-purpose slot idea for other reasons) but for the time being, I want to be able to stick with my existing Win XP Pro and all the associated software. (Only when I do a major hardware upgrade on another system would I want to buy Win XP64 and install that on both.)

I understand that a 32bit OS on a 64bit processor is not going to be using much of the hardware, but that is fine. But until I read that article, I had understood that if you installed a 64bit processor, you HAD to have a 64bit OS.

Is that true?

Has anyone built a 64bit AMD system and run 32 bit Windows on it? How did it perform?

Post 49 of 60

64-bit...

by jackintucson Moderator - 11/19/05 1:17 PM In reply to: 32bit OS on 64bit cpu? by brit0n

You do not have to load a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit machine. Microsoft does have a 64-bit XP ( I own it). The downside , if there is one, is that virtually all the apps out there today were written for a 32-bit machine and do not take advantage of the added power of a 64-bit app. It won't be until you run a 64-bit app on a 64-bit CPU running a 64-OS that its full potential will be realized.

and life goes on...

Jack

Post 50 of 60

Ah the other side of the question - 32 bit apps on 64 bit OS

by brit0n - 12/1/05 12:07 PM In reply to: 64-bit... by jackintucson Moderator

Thanks Jack. I wanted to wait until the OS settled down before I actually put dollars into it :D

I understood of course that the 64bi OS is no advantage except when 64 bit apps were run on it. But I also understood that there was a downside to installing the 64bit OS when ONLY 32bit apps are run - something to do with overhead etc. Not that I would notice on a newly built machine, but you suggest that it isn't an issue. Thanks for that too!

Post 51 of 60

(NT) is the t2500 pentum duo processor a 64 bit processor?

by michaelhodges - 1/21/06 11:30 AM In reply to: 64-bit... by jackintucson Moderator

Post 53 of 60

32 bit os on 64 bit cpu

by david b turner - 11/26/05 9:38 AM In reply to: 32bit OS on 64bit cpu? by brit0n

I installed a 32 bit oc on a new 64 bit amd 3800 and it works great.I also installed a 10000rpm hard drive and it is very fast.
I had installed the 64bit oc but there is no much campatablilty right now so i changed back to the 32oc
good luck you won;t be sorry

Post 54 of 60

Poifect!

by brit0n - 12/1/05 12:10 PM In reply to: 32 bit os on 64 bit cpu by david b turner

Thanks David - great answer.

So now I can finish the design and not include the cost of the new OS. I LOVE my old OS *lmao*

So that's it. Life goes on - just not ALL of life and not ALL just yet ;)

Post 55 of 60

re: AMD XP64 cpu and 32 bit O.S.

by ncyclist - 12/12/05 7:17 AM In reply to: 32bit OS on 64bit cpu? by brit0n

I have installed WinXP Home Edition (32 bit) on an AMD Athlon XP64 2800+ cpu with a Chaintech VNF3-250 (64-bit) motherboard. Of course, as you know, you wouldn't get the optimum performance from this setup because of the 32-bit O.S.. The only problems I encounter are install issues -- It takes a bit of juggling to install some programs due to the 64 bit CPU and 32 bit OS; i.e, 'cannot run in DOS mode, etc.'.

Other than that the configuration is fine if you don't have the cash to drop on Win XP64.

Post 56 of 60

GOD PEOPLE ARE MAKING THIS MORE COMPLICATED THEN IT SHOULD B

by Eddiefromalienwarecomps - 11/19/05 9:11 PM In reply to: Dual or single core by karlmarx

Look I have made an earlier post. KarlMarx stated his/her reasons how he/she will use his/her computer, so why is everyone debating about this??? Did Karlmarx want a mac? NO, did Karlmarx state that he/she wanted an Intel NO. Did KarlMarx state he/she wanted an Opteron, NO. So why is everyone saying the FX is more gaming or saying something useless that has nothing to do with Karlmarx's post. There should have been one reply to Karlmarx's post that is it, and it should have said GET THE DUAL CORE AMD X2 4800+
Karlmarx said he/she wanted to use his/her desktop on "media, office and statistics application". That is why there is dual core SO GET THE AMD X2 4800+.

Post 57 of 60

(NT) Tissue anyone?? tissue?

by comicfan - 11/19/05 9:49 PM In reply to: GOD PEOPLE ARE MAKING THIS MORE COMPLICATED THEN IT SHOULD B by Eddiefromalienwarecomps

Post 58 of 60

Go with the Dual Core

by pcguru4u - 11/20/05 5:35 AM In reply to: Dual or single core by karlmarx

Simply put, since both processors are Socket 939 and are approximately the same in price (give or take $20-$30). If you are trying to get the most bang for your buck, you might as well go tthe dual-core route. It's unlikely that you will realize 100% potential of the 4800, but it is a little more future-proof and eventually all desktops are going to migrate to a multiple processor environment.

Post 59 of 60

Duel Core

by hitbit - 11/20/05 5:45 AM In reply to: Dual or single core by karlmarx

Bought my first Duel Core system [Intel 2.8 D] in March.Terrific,no problem dealing with multiple tasks like downloading programmes while copying DVD at the same time. Much more productive than my other 3.0 single core system.

hitbit

Post 60 of 60

Dual Core all the way

by urackon - 11/22/05 12:52 AM In reply to: Dual or single core by karlmarx

Id have to say dual-core, even id you dont have any dual core apps you can still assign tasks to the second procesor.

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