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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 10/21/05 Best format for digitizing my CD collection

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 10/20/05 5:49 PM
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Post 91 of 126

Getting rid of your original CDs make you a Pirate

by Owl - 10/21/05 1:57 PM In reply to: Any difference between CDs and Lossless formats (WAV, FLAC)? by kyle_t

When you get rid of your original CDs you give up all legal rigths to have any copy of the content of the CDs. Doing so makes you a pirate.

Post 92 of 126

Kind of silly..

by b8375629 - 10/22/05 11:23 PM In reply to: Getting rid of your original CDs make you a Pirate by Owl

Especially since you bought and paid for the CD at the time you ripped it, you owned it.

As long as it's for personal use and not sold (or even given away to friends), it's cool...

Post 93 of 126

Have you been in a cave?

by bugmenotcnet - 10/21/05 8:06 PM In reply to: Audiophiles Take NOTICE by Seacoaster

There's been a lot off lossless formats lately.
You need to plug in more often :-)

Post 94 of 126

what format do i rip audio cds to in order to burn cds that

by panos05 - 10/21/05 11:26 AM In reply to: 10/21/05 Best format for digitizing my CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

can be played on regular portable cd players(not mp3 enabled)?

thanx

Post 95 of 126

Lossless Formats

by cousinkix1953 - 10/21/05 11:29 AM In reply to: 10/21/05 Best format for digitizing my CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

The NERO 6 Media Player can handle compressed lossless formats such as SHN (shorten) and FLAC. Optional codecs are found at www.afterdawn.com and www.etree.org. WinAmp also plays the SHN files. FLAC codecs exist for Windows Media Players 9 and 10.

These are about half the size of the unzipped WAV files with the same quality...

Post 96 of 126

MediaMonkey Lossless Compatible?

by lkelvin456 - 10/21/05 12:24 PM In reply to: Lossless Formats by cousinkix1953

I'm tempted to use FLAK encoder but the installer tells me to use Winamp and I already have MediaMonkey that I've payed for a little while back.

Does MediaMonkey support any lossless formats like FLAK? While playing Football Manager 2006 (just released) I like to setup a playlist of tunes in MediaMonkey and it's something I'm very accustomed to.

If MediaMonkey doesn't - will someone write a plugin for it, please :)

Post 97 of 126

MediaMonkey

by midfingr - 11/15/05 10:26 AM In reply to: MediaMonkey Lossless Compatible? by lkelvin456

Hi,
Not sure about MediaMonkey, but I imagine there's a plugin somewhere. I found one for Windows Media Player on this site:

http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/

Might be worth a try. Good luck!

Post 98 of 126

On my way out the door so I cant read the other answers....

by River5150 - 10/21/05 1:43 PM In reply to: 10/21/05 Best format for digitizing my CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

They pretty much all do the same thing, encode and compress the file. What is the BIG concern is what do you plan to play it back with? Are you happy just playing back on your desktop? Will you be looking at or buying a portable player of some sort provided you dont already have one?
IPODs are the hot ticket and over priced in my eyes. I have a RIO Carbon. What I like about it is that it can not only do MP3 but all the Microsoft versions as well. IPOD cant!
To stay open to most downloads and purchased media, Rip it in MP3. It gets goofy with DL media. Some want one format some another but everyone seems to like MP3.
I went through the same questions in my mind. I bought the Rio and am very happy. I even bought a reberb on e-bay and the puppy rocks saving me well over $100!
Now that I rip and play with formats, quality, etc. I have more music on my big computer than I have in Albums, CD's ETC. For penny's a DL I'd rather be legal than get slammed for violating a copyright.

Post 99 of 126

Ripping/encoding

by overl0rd - 10/21/05 1:51 PM In reply to: 10/21/05 Best format for digitizing my CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I prefer EAC (exact audio copy) and oggenc which will work with EAC's menus. You can also use oggdrop, just rip the CD into wavs and drag and drop the files onto the oggdrop interface. As you can tell I prefer vorbis. Q5 is scene standard when working with ogg, which is roughly 192k.

Post 100 of 126

EAC & RazorLAME

by Ck87.JF - 10/21/05 2:34 PM In reply to: Ripping/encoding by overl0rd

Generally, to copy music, I use EAC and RazorLAME, but I'm curious; I have a brand-new (2005) CD that doesn't allow "normal" media players to play it, and "normal" CD rippers, image-creators, or burners to work with it. On the back of the CD case, there's an FBI warning, and all that jazz. I tried using Nero to create an image, and when I played it back, there was a horrible screeching above the music; when I tried using EAC to rip it, all it would do is try to use error correction; it also won't work with other burners. To listen, rip, or burn the music contained on the CD, one must use the program included with the CD, "MUSIC PLAYER." I selected the copy/rip option, and it copied to my HDD in the WMA format, with DRM enabled, which means I cannot use the music on my Pocket PC (unless I somehow get the license online, while on the PDA).
Why should the FBI be able to tell me how I can copy my music and use it? I mean, if I want to rip it into a WAV format, why shouldn't I be able to do it?

I guess my main question...
Is there a way to get around this protection, to copy it as I will, into WAVs that don't have DRM attached?
Thanks, good day.
-Christopher

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attaching song names

by gwa-53 - 10/21/05 3:09 PM In reply to: 10/21/05 Best format for digitizing my CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

How does one get the song name to attach to the mp3's that are converted from CD wav. files? Mine say ''unknown artist , unknown song'' in my mp3 player when they play them?

Post 102 of 126

RE: RIPPING CD'S

by SolitaryMan422 - 10/21/05 3:32 PM In reply to: 10/21/05 Best format for digitizing my CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I read your column on ripping CD's. Have you ever used, & if so what do you think of "Roxio Easy Media Creator 7.5"?
I recently bought it, But have not used it yet...

Post 103 of 126

Roxio=No good, see anyone here recommend it??

by the kabuki - 10/21/05 9:35 PM In reply to: RE: RIPPING CD'S by SolitaryMan422

Have Roxio 5.something something. Have had nothing but problems with it. Support is non-existant. If you haven't taken it out of the box yet, I'd suggest taking it back to the store and then reading some of the terrific suggestions here. Haven't seen one yet recommend Roxio.

Post 104 of 126

AGREED Instead Nero 7 Ultra Edition

by thecoolnessrune - 10/22/05 10:30 AM In reply to: Roxio=No good, see anyone here recommend it?? by the kabuki

I have had nothing but problems with Roxio. I never did get a successful burn with it. The best by FAR is Nero 6 Ultra Edition. I've had it for I think 2 years and I love it. As soon as Nero 7 Ultra Edition comes out on the internet on the 26th. Im gonna upgrade. I love the MPEG4 audio encoder. Now that retains quality. It is the only one I use.

Post 105 of 126

compression and bandwidth

by sxw - 10/21/05 4:43 PM In reply to: 10/21/05 Best format for digitizing my CD collection by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

In your reply regarding compression algorithms, you stated that more lossy compression schemes meant reduced bandwidth. I thought that the lossy schemes meant less resolution at each frequency, not fewer frequencies. Low frequencies don't take many bit to encode; higher frequencies take more bits - so I could see if the high end was rolled off. But brute force decimation doesn't necessarily lower the high cutoff frequency nor raise the low high pass cutoff frequency.

Sandy W.

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