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AMD reliability
by bill32405 - 11/5/05 3:35 AM In reply to: AMD Processor Reliability by marketwatchermarketwatcher,
I use a self-built AMD XP 1.33Ghz Thunderbird box. The only problem I have had in 3 1/2 years of operation was a fried mobo due to a severe thunderstorm. As an aside, my system uses the afore-mentioned T-bird, an ASUS board, 1 Ghz of Corsair RAM, and a Western Digital 30GB HD.
Like you, I prefer to not use Intel products. My next box will use an AMD FX-64 on an Abit board.
Hope this helps. Bill32405
AMD Processor Reliability
by LynneM - 11/5/05 7:33 AM In reply to: AMD Processor Reliability by marketwatcherI am using an AMD now. Generic maker, but a reliable machine. The PROCESSOR has never caused problems, but the operating system has (in all three AMDs I have). I started with a 586 which I put together way back when and progressed to an Athlon 900 which this machine is. My Athlon XP machine runnind WinXP Pro is causing problems because of the operating system and not the processor. I only look at and buy AMD products. Guess you could say that I am a fan of AMD.
Buy AMD
by memory-xpert - 11/6/05 5:59 PM In reply to: AMD Processor Reliability by marketwatcherThe last Intel processor I used was a Pentium 233MMX. Nothing but AMD ever since. We can all give you enough facts and figures to keep yeading for a year but, suffice it to say that AMD has given the best bang for the buck for many many years now. My company actually handles wholesale distribution of both Intel and AMD so I am speaking from many years of experience in the industry. Remember two rules, buy AMD not Intel and use Firefox not Internet Explorer. The world will be a better place with happier people!
AMD vs. Intel
by apple_pie_eater - 11/17/05 12:08 AM In reply to: Buy AMD by memory-xpertSure you can buy Intel, but expect to have only about half of Vista work for you. Microsoft designs their software for Intel processors. AMD is always playing catch-up. Did you notice that XP Media Center came out on all Intel chips and it took forever for it to finally to be released on a computer with and AMD chip.
You know why
by Eddiefromalienwarecomps - 11/17/05 1:19 PM In reply to: AMD vs. Intel by apple_pie_eaterBecause for most of the computing world, Intel had dominated the processor market(it's like like Windows and the Apple OS), but those days are over. Ever since AMD came out with the first 64 bit ready chip back in 2003, it has been downhill for Intel. AMD currently has the fastest dual core CPU (AMD X2 4800+), the fastest single core CPU (AMD Athlon 64 FX-57), and generally have better value and better chips all around. Think about it, you can get a 64 bit ready processor from AMD in almost every processor AMD sells, but with Intel it is in about I believe 3 of there series, their dual core 800 series, their 600 series, and I believe the dual core D series.
Intel even ditched the BTX form factor design only to go back to ATX. Face it, the future is AMD.
More do you know why???
by jcrobso - 11/17/05 2:20 PM In reply to: AMD vs. Intel by apple_pie_eaterBecause Intel is now in trouble ALL over the WORLD for PRICE fixing and nasty business prictices they used to keep AMD down.
AMD over intel
by blackheart1313 - 11/6/05 9:53 PM In reply to: AMD Processor Reliability by marketwatcherBack a few years ago I owned a 10yr old computer with an AMD k-6 processor and my step-father bought a HP Intel
pentium 3 1GHz. The 350 MHz k-6 ran apps. faster and more stable. Since then i've been a loyal AMD customer and always will be.
the AMD
ran Win98 with 128 MB sdram with an ASUS mboard
the Intel
ran Win98 with 256 MB sdram
I recommend buying either a custom built AMD based computer, an Alienware, or Falcon-Northwest computer.
I've never met anyone that has had a problem with either of these companies.
amd reliability
by garrie - 11/7/05 5:52 AM In reply to: AMD Processor Reliability by marketwatcherHi Marketwatcher,
Only a quick one, the amd 64's are very good chips and will be suited to the microsoft 64 bit software that is to be released soon.
Did you know that advance micro devices(AMD) used to actually make the the processors for intel before they branched out on there own.
Garrie.
Actually...
by psytropic - 11/7/05 10:32 AM In reply to: amd reliability by garrieuntrue, AMD made flash memory devices. When I got my degree one of my research papers was on the history of AMD.
If memory serves me right...
by wtortorici - 11/9/05 3:29 PM In reply to: Actually... by psytropicIntel licensed 286 to amd and intel sued amd over 386 tech, but amd prevailed.;)
Intel tried to copyright the term 386
by psytropic - 11/9/05 5:26 PM In reply to: If memory serves me right... by wtortoricibut the Supreme Court ruled you cannot copyright a number, thats how the Pentium was born, to distinguish Intel from other competiters.
do more research please
by tech_suck - 12/5/05 4:45 PM In reply to: Actually... by psytropicamd made flash and contract manufacturer for intel. because x86 license agreement, intel wants to break away x86 platform. sorry Intel x86 base is so huge. K6 is a Nexgen. IBM was a contract manufacturer for Nexgen. too bad IBM could not make chip fast enough. if IBM did it could be NexGen Versus Intel today. Athlon is just an Alpha. Intel fail to stop Amd from accessing Alpha technology. I don't see any major "innovation" from Amd. It's just a copy cat (like Microsoft).
AMD reply
by top_flight_steelers - 11/8/05 9:43 AM In reply to: AMD Processor Reliability by marketwatcherI can't speak about the 64 bit amd's but the few 32 bit amd's that I've used have been reliable.
and they process colors better then intel.
at least better than my dells that I have had.
and still have a 4700 with ati 128mb pci express card
and pent.4 processor.
AMD all the way
by vbhisey - 11/9/05 6:58 AM In reply to: AMD Processor Reliability by marketwatcherI have 12 machines in the office, 10 of them AMD. Semptrons as well as Athlons. No problem with any of them.
Why so hyped about AMD?
by ledzepe - 11/10/05 11:27 AM In reply to: AMD Processor Reliability by marketwatcherTo all the techie wanna be,
AMD first came out with their copy of Intel's x86 processor. AMD kept copying Intel architecture that there was a time that they went to court that ordered Intel to release the 486 microcodes. After this episode, AMD started developing their own architecture.
AMD's platform architecture is very different from that of Intel's. AMD connect directly to the memory and its chipsets but the chipset has no direct connection to the memory. This means that the processor has to work hard passing info from the memory to chipset and vice versa(aka multi i/o task). But with the processor's direct connection with the memory, it could finish a memory task much faster.
Intel's way is processor to chipset to memory. There is no direct connection to the memory meaning the chipset has to channel a lot of info between the processor and memory. Chipsets are designed for that job (aka multi i/o task) therefore if could finish the multi i/o much faster, like memory caching, etc.
From an engineering stand point, both processors are good since they perform as adverstised, both uses nanometer technology meaning an error in the number of molecules per area means the difference between a functioning product and non-functioning one.
For enthusiast who build their own "tower" or desktop, the system that you built might have a problem but you can't blame it on the processor. Your "tower" consist of many different parts that have been bought from different suppliers. These parts generally work together but they have different tolerances. You might have build two towers with identical parts but one would hung-up while the other works just fine. This is the same with any branded PCs. One might work fine but another may experience problem.
I've worked for one of the two. I've even worked for DEC where we have the Alpha, the first true 64 bit proc. But I woundn't say "Intel sucks" or "AMD sucks". One can never generalized. These are marks of uninformed enthusiast. I would rather go to their websites www.intel.com or www.amd.com and read up about the processors. It make for interesting reading.
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