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by eimeria - 10/20/05 6:27 PM
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Post 16 of 27

Not true.

by Xerxxes - 5/10/07 2:16 PM In reply to: Unlocked Phone May not save you money by m3harri

It will not be charged as roaming. But the phone you purchased sounds like a TDMA phone that was working before Cingular bought out AT&T and that will not work with the new technology Cingular uses now. They aren't forcing you to buy theirs, in fact Cingular and T-mobile are a little bit easier to use unlocked phones than anything for Verizon or Alltel that do not allow you to use a sim card.

And to the posters below, it is true unlocked phones are MUCH more unreliable than the ones we sell in our store because they already have the settings for Cingular. The ones you buy overseas that have a billion different data networks setup don't always work. I spent about an hour and a half with a guy's Krzr yesterday he bought in Germany and could never get it going, even with the right settings.

Post 17 of 27

look here

by jndrad - 10/22/05 5:25 AM In reply to: Purchasing a Phone without Service Contract?? by eimeria

check out lostmyphone.com

Post 18 of 27

Be careful ordering from Lostmyphone

by 1unhapycustmer - 8/2/06 6:04 PM In reply to: look here by jndrad

The ''pre-owned'' phone that Lostmyphone.com sent was in bad shape from the get-go, wouldn't hold a charge for very long, and after 2 and 1/2 weeks, stopped booting up at all. The company is trying to come up with excuses for not giving me any refund, such as claiming I did not return the battery with the phone, and that the charger was damaged in shipment. I doubt the charger was damaged, because it was well packaged. The battery, of course, was returned in the box. I bet they're going to try to keep all my money. I'll keep you posted. I wouldn't trust them at this point.

Post 19 of 27

Lostmyphone.com is a loser

by 1unhapycustmer - 1/30/07 12:44 PM In reply to: Be careful ordering from Lostmyphone by 1unhapycustmer

Justice prevails. My credit card company gave me a full refund of all Lostmyphone.com charges. They tried to keep my money *and* the 2nd defective replacement phone that I had to return, but now they can keep their crappy equipment, 'cause I got my money back.

Post 20 of 27

LOSTMYPHONE has worst service ever, please read

by amalea - 3/6/07 6:37 AM In reply to: Be careful ordering from Lostmyphone by 1unhapycustmer

My phone was stolen. I was pretty low on cash and dont have a PAYPAL account (which is required for most ebay transactions) so I tried to order from LOSTMYPHONE,COM.

My first order was refunded after about a week because my credit card address was different from the place I wanted my phone shipped. (it would have nice if they didn't leave spaces for both Shipping Address AND Billing Address in their order form if you are not allowed to choose where to have your phone shipped. What if I was on vacation?

So to hurry the process along I ordered the same phone (boasted as new on their website) with 2 day shipping on a Mon.Feb 5, 2007. (Please not they make a huge point on their website to ship same day, and my order was around noon so they should have been able to fill it. No phone all week and then Monday I get an email saying my order was shipped MON FEB.12 2007. That was pretty irritating. So I went to their website and tried the online chat with a LostMyPhone Rep. (I saved the transcript as well and its pretty funny.)
I spoke (online chatted) with Jenny. I was going to post portions but I cant seem to leave anthing out. Its a wonderful example of the quality servce they claim to have.

"
Rob Hock: Why haveI not received my phone?

You are now speaking with Jenny of Support.

Jenny: Hello, do you have an order number so that I may further assist you?

Rob Hock: sure

Rob Hock: ###################

Rob Hock: is the reference numberf

Jenny: It is a 5 digit number followed by LMP

Rob Hock: #####

Jenny: alright one moment

Rob Hock: thnk you

Jenny: This order is scheduled for delivery on Monday

Rob Hock: yes i know

Jenny: Oh I see then how can I help you today?

Your party has left this session.

Rob Hock: i am asking why it is scheduled for delivery on monday when i ordered it last monday evening with 2-day shipping?

Jenny: Lets see

Rob Hock: it wasn't even shipped until wednesday

Jenny: Alright placed this order after we closed I see on Monday night
Jenny: so we recieved it Tuesday

Rob Hock: yes
Rob Hock: and orders received before 3pm should beshipped that day according to your website

Jenny: You were approved for shipment on Wednesday
Jenny: and tracking was issued but this was after FedEx cuttoff time
Jenny: so it went out the next day Thursday

Rob Hock: yes, i know all this
Rob Hock: i am asking why the service has been so poor

Jenny: Well sir we do not show you chose "rush" at checkout

Rob Hock: and why i should have paid $18 for shipping that is taking 6-7 days

Jenny: so this went pretty smoothly and quickly for a standard order

Rob Hock: i disagree

Jenny: Considering we recieve very many order it went very quickly

Rob Hock: for the record i tried calling to do this on the phone

Jenny: If you had chose "rush" processing it would of went out soon
Jenny: this is why we offer the option

Rob Hock: ok, well your FAQ is incorrect then

Jenny: We do our best to handle all orders as quickly as possible
Jenny: but as you know this is the holiday seasons
Jenny: and we have more orders than usual

Rob Hock: holiday?

Jenny: Is there any other way I may assist you today?

Rob Hock: what holiday?

Jenny: Valentines day sir
Jenny: It is On Wednesday

Rob Hock: riiiiiiight
Rob Hock: that is poor
Rob Hock: can i havesomeone call me?

Jenny: Alright sir i understand you wish it went faster but we went as quickly as possible
Jenny: and as you did not choose the "rush" option
Jenny: You can call us sir

Rob Hock: i did and nobody answered

Jenny: You can leave a message

Rob Hock: i did

Jenny: and someone will contct you back within 48 business hours

Rob Hock: terrific

Jenny: Or you can send an email or a quicker respsonse
Jenny: but it will be the same response I assure you

Rob Hock: ok, well the situation is morecomplicated than i want to gointo here
Rob Hock: but rest assured the overall service i have received in the last 8 days has been terrible

Jenny: Sir we have not had your order for 8 days

Rob Hock: since this is the second time the orderwas placed

Jenny: We have only had it since Tuesday

Rob Hock: correct
Rob Hock: but it was ordered a week ago with a different card

Jenny: And we shipped it within 2 days
Jenny: This is much faster than most other companies

Rob Hock: haha

Jenny: Im sorry FedEx doesnt deliver on weekends

Rob Hock: i'm not concerned with fedex
Rob Hock: i'm concerned with the poor service

Jenny: I understand you are upset that it took 2 days for your item to ship?
Jenny: Is this correct?

Rob Hock: yes

Jenny: Ok well sir I will notate your account
Jenny: but this is well within our timelines
Jenny: It would of went out sooner had you select rush

Rob Hock: 2 day shipping implies it will be delivered in 2 days
Rob Hock: from tuesday

Jenny: No sir 2 day shipping implies FedEx will deliver in 2 days

Rob Hock: the day it should have been processed

Jenny: It only implies what FedEx will do

Rob Hock: well, if you look at your faq
Rob Hock: Does LostMyPhone.com ship all orders out on the same day?

Jenny: Yes, everything that you see on our web site is physically in stock and all orders placed before 3:00pm eastern time gets shipped out on the same day. All orders after 3:00pm have the option of having there order rushed out same day only till 4:30pm for an additional $5.00
Jenny: Please sir
Jenny: read the Terms of Service
Jenny: http://www.lostmyphone.com/terms_of_use.htm

Rob Hock: no problem
Rob Hock: i'm not threatening you

Jenny: I do not think you are sir

Rob Hock: i am simply pointing out how stating incorrect information on the FAQ is poor service

Jenny: Ok sir
Jenny: I will send that along

Rob Hock: thank you
Rob Hock: send it along to yuorself

Jenny: Im sorry I do not understand please rephrase

Rob Hock: i think you are the service dept

Jenny: Im sorry sir I do not understand your question

Rob Hock: well it clearly wasn'taquestion

Jenny: Alright then how can I help you?

Rob Hock: please have someone call me in the next 48 business hours

Jenny: If you left a message today someone should call you back

Rob Hock: great

Jenny: Either Tuesday or Wednesday I would surmise
Jenny: Depending on what time the message was left

Rob Hock: 5:00 today
Rob Hock: EST

Jenny: Hmm most likely Wednesday then

Rob Hock: doyou not realize how poor this service is?

Jenny: Well sir the only thing you have told me is you are uhappy your phone shipped out in 2 days
Jenny: which is excellent service

Jenny: I understand you are unhappy
Jenny: but this is a fine time frame

Rob Hock: in the world of internet retailers, this is the slowest thing i have encountered.

Jenny: I think you are feeling you placed your order Monday
Jenny: but please understand

Rob Hock: also, the 7 hour phone window is poor

Jenny: for us we did not get it till Tuesday

Rob Hock: yes, i know

Jenny: and it shipped Thursday

Rob Hock: i know

Jenny: Which is very fast

Rob Hock: no, it is NOT
Rob Hock: your website probably gets 100 orders a day
Rob Hock: i know since i have 2 order numbers several days apart
Rob Hock: i dont expect you to argue with me

Jenny: Please tell me how I may assist you sir

Rob Hock: clearly you cannot. youonly write down account information which i had already
Rob Hock: goodbye.

Jenny: Well I am able to do all that any rep can do

Rob Hock: i know. its nothing personal

Jenny: Thank you for choosing LostMyPhone.com
Goodbye.
"


Appearantly if you want something shipped faster, you not only have to click on the proper shipping option and be charged accordingly AND THEN ALSO check the a box next to this phrase

"Rush Processing on this order up till 4.30PM EST ADDITONAL $5.00"

Thats the only way to get your order processed same day...give the $5 more bucks (in addition to the $13.75 PROCESSING FEE). The website never tells you any of this. It just boasts same day shipping if you order before 2 or 3pm (I forget which but is stardard of any online store) "Rush Processing" appears as an option for late afternoon buyers only. I then request someone contact me by phone and I was pomised within 48 hours I would hear from someone (of course they never call).
My phone does arrive two days after they shipped it. It did not work so I emailed them requesting someone call me (pointless) but they did email me saying they would honor their 7 day return policy. So I mailed it back and two weeks after my "UPS delivary confirmation" mailed them again...wondering what happened to my refund. I got an email saying they refunded the phone which is good. Now I'm just trying to get my extended warranty money back, but now (after along string of back and forth replys to the same address) my emails are no longer being recieved. I've gotten TWO sent beck to me so far saying

"PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 Cannot relay. Mailbox not available "

This company is a nasty piece of work and I hope I've prevented you from even considering wasting your time with them

Post 21 of 27

ebay!

by iknowphones - 10/22/05 1:25 PM In reply to: Purchasing a Phone without Service Contract?? by eimeria

ebay! many sellers on ebay have new-in-box phones and ther is usually nothing wrong with them! i recomend ebayers "razorman316" or "nazdax".
DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM OUT OF THE US OR CANADA! MOST OF THE AUCTIONS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE US AND CANADA ARE SCAMS! ALSO IF YOU ARE SELLING DO NOT LET ANYONE BUY YOUR ITEM UNLESS THEY ARE FROM THE US OR CANADA! Also, another word of advice, beware of seller "mei-nam"!

Post 22 of 27

Lost Cell Phone in Canada

by maherk13 - 10/25/05 1:25 PM In reply to: Purchasing a Phone without Service Contract?? by eimeria

I am in a similar situation. My son is going to college in Canada and lost his Verizon cell phone. He wasn't using it much because of roaming charges there but I will need to find a replacement. I have been bidding on eBay for a number of phones but they seem to be overpriced. I would like to find a phone (preferably new in a box but will take slightly used) that I can bring into a Verizon Wireless store to activate with his number -- I work a block down from one on Wall St and Water St. in NYC.

Any suggestions beyond eBay? Will phones on www.lostmyphone.com work for what my purposes?

Post 23 of 27

Saving on Ebay

by m3harri - 10/27/05 12:36 AM In reply to: Lost Cell Phone in Canada by maherk13

It is hard to beet the deals you “can” find on Ebay. The thing is you can not be in a hurry. I have seen people pay $100 more for a phone than they would from the cellular dealer Just because they did not want to loose.
If you need one right way then look for buy it now items. DO NOT let your emotions rule. You can find the best deals in the off hours.
If you are patient and persistent you can find a deal.

Post 24 of 27

Motorola sells phones on their website

by dataBoy - 10/28/05 4:25 AM In reply to: Purchasing a Phone without Service Contract?? by eimeria

unlocked without service and much less then you think

Verizon lists my v276 as retail $250 in they strore but I can buy it from Motorola for $189

Post 25 of 27

eBay

by foreverLaur - 8/9/06 12:14 PM In reply to: Purchasing a Phone without Service Contract?? by eimeria

all phones are an arm and a leg through the actual company if you don't get a contract. i've broken my phones many of times and i just buy another one through eBay and i've never had any problems.

Post 26 of 27

I second that...Ebay.

by jgvillan - 1/30/07 12:57 PM In reply to: eBay by foreverLaur

Since I moved to a GSM netowrk with Cingular...I never bought a phone from Cingular again. All my previous phones have been bought from Ebay, unlocked of course. Never had a problem moving my sim card and haven't been charged for roaming or anything like that. Only thing that you have to know, and what I learned the hard way, was that if you have Cingular...you have to give priority on the 850 Mhz band. Otherwise, a new unlocked phone will not work where there is no 850 Mhz available, and have to piggy back off the 1900 Mhz. Also, you are soley responsible for configuring your SMS and other network settings in order to hit the internet and send pictures and other files for messaging. Other than these two things, its not a problem. Of course, it doesn't hurt to find an unlocked phone that is similar to what the carrier is already offering.

When I used my Moto V360 (exclusive to Tmobile), I had a little bit of a learing curve configuring the internet to go through my Cingular account. Since that Cingular didn't offer a V360, I was pretty much on my own...going through trial and error using Cingular's Moto L6 configurations.

So, getting an unlocked phone is great way to replace your phone without cashing out the big bucks from your carrier. Just know that, in relation to tech support, your pretty much on your own.

Post 27 of 27

LOST MY PHONE has the absolute worst service ever.

by amalea - 3/6/07 6:28 AM In reply to: I second that...Ebay. by jgvillan

My phone was stolen. I was pretty low on cash and dont have a PAYPAL account (which is required for most ebay transactions) so I tried to order from LOSTMYPHONE,COM.

My first order was refunded after about a week because my credit card address was different from the place I wanted my phone shipped. (it would have nice if they didn't leave spaces for both Shipping Address AND Billing Address in their order form if you are not allowed to choose where to have your phone shipped. What if I was on vacation?

So to hurry the process along I ordered the same phone (boasted as new on their website) with 2 day shipping on a Mon.Feb 5, 2007. (Please not they make a huge point on their website to ship same day, and my order was around noon so they should have been able to fill it. No phone all week and then Monday I get an email saying my order was shipped MON FEB.12 2007. That was pretty irritating. So I went to their website and tried the online chat with a LostMyPhone Rep. (I saved the transcript as well and its pretty funny.)
I spoke (online chatted) with Jenny. I was going to post portions but I cant seem to leave anthing out. Its a wonderful example of the quality servce they claim to have.

"
Rob Hock: Why haveI not received my phone?

You are now speaking with Jenny of Support.

Jenny: Hello, do you have an order number so that I may further assist you?

Rob Hock: sure

Rob Hock: ###################

Rob Hock: is the reference numberf

Jenny: It is a 5 digit number followed by LMP

Rob Hock: #####

Jenny: alright one moment

Rob Hock: thnk you

Jenny: This order is scheduled for delivery on Monday

Rob Hock: yes i know

Jenny: Oh I see then how can I help you today?

Your party has left this session.

Rob Hock: i am asking why it is scheduled for delivery on monday when i ordered it last monday evening with 2-day shipping?

Jenny: Lets see

Rob Hock: it wasn't even shipped until wednesday

Jenny: Alright placed this order after we closed I see on Monday night
Jenny: so we recieved it Tuesday

Rob Hock: yes
Rob Hock: and orders received before 3pm should beshipped that day according to your website

Jenny: You were approved for shipment on Wednesday
Jenny: and tracking was issued but this was after FedEx cuttoff time
Jenny: so it went out the next day Thursday

Rob Hock: yes, i know all this
Rob Hock: i am asking why the service has been so poor

Jenny: Well sir we do not show you chose "rush" at checkout

Rob Hock: and why i should have paid $18 for shipping that is taking 6-7 days

Jenny: so this went pretty smoothly and quickly for a standard order

Rob Hock: i disagree

Jenny: Considering we recieve very many order it went very quickly

Rob Hock: for the record i tried calling to do this on the phone

Jenny: If you had chose "rush" processing it would of went out soon
Jenny: this is why we offer the option

Rob Hock: ok, well your FAQ is incorrect then

Jenny: We do our best to handle all orders as quickly as possible
Jenny: but as you know this is the holiday seasons
Jenny: and we have more orders than usual

Rob Hock: holiday?

Jenny: Is there any other way I may assist you today?

Rob Hock: what holiday?

Jenny: Valentines day sir
Jenny: It is On Wednesday

Rob Hock: riiiiiiight
Rob Hock: that is poor
Rob Hock: can i havesomeone call me?

Jenny: Alright sir i understand you wish it went faster but we went as quickly as possible
Jenny: and as you did not choose the "rush" option
Jenny: You can call us sir

Rob Hock: i did and nobody answered

Jenny: You can leave a message

Rob Hock: i did

Jenny: and someone will contct you back within 48 business hours

Rob Hock: terrific

Jenny: Or you can send an email or a quicker respsonse
Jenny: but it will be the same response I assure you

Rob Hock: ok, well the situation is morecomplicated than i want to gointo here
Rob Hock: but rest assured the overall service i have received in the last 8 days has been terrible

Jenny: Sir we have not had your order for 8 days

Rob Hock: since this is the second time the orderwas placed

Jenny: We have only had it since Tuesday

Rob Hock: correct
Rob Hock: but it was ordered a week ago with a different card

Jenny: And we shipped it within 2 days
Jenny: This is much faster than most other companies

Rob Hock: haha

Jenny: Im sorry FedEx doesnt deliver on weekends

Rob Hock: i'm not concerned with fedex
Rob Hock: i'm concerned with the poor service

Jenny: I understand you are upset that it took 2 days for your item to ship?
Jenny: Is this correct?

Rob Hock: yes

Jenny: Ok well sir I will notate your account
Jenny: but this is well within our timelines
Jenny: It would of went out sooner had you select rush

Rob Hock: 2 day shipping implies it will be delivered in 2 days
Rob Hock: from tuesday

Jenny: No sir 2 day shipping implies FedEx will deliver in 2 days

Rob Hock: the day it should have been processed

Jenny: It only implies what FedEx will do

Rob Hock: well, if you look at your faq
Rob Hock: Does LostMyPhone.com ship all orders out on the same day?

Jenny: Yes, everything that you see on our web site is physically in stock and all orders placed before 3:00pm eastern time gets shipped out on the same day. All orders after 3:00pm have the option of having there order rushed out same day only till 4:30pm for an additional $5.00
Jenny: Please sir
Jenny: read the Terms of Service
Jenny: http://www.lostmyphone.com/terms_of_use.htm

Rob Hock: no problem
Rob Hock: i'm not threatening you

Jenny: I do not think you are sir

Rob Hock: i am simply pointing out how stating incorrect information on the FAQ is poor service

Jenny: Ok sir
Jenny: I will send that along

Rob Hock: thank you
Rob Hock: send it along to yuorself

Jenny: Im sorry I do not understand please rephrase

Rob Hock: i think you are the service dept

Jenny: Im sorry sir I do not understand your question

Rob Hock: well it clearly wasn'taquestion

Jenny: Alright then how can I help you?

Rob Hock: please have someone call me in the next 48 business hours

Jenny: If you left a message today someone should call you back

Rob Hock: great

Jenny: Either Tuesday or Wednesday I would surmise
Jenny: Depending on what time the message was left

Rob Hock: 5:00 today
Rob Hock: EST

Jenny: Hmm most likely Wednesday then

Rob Hock: doyou not realize how poor this service is?

Jenny: Well sir the only thing you have told me is you are uhappy your phone shipped out in 2 days
Jenny: which is excellent service

Jenny: I understand you are unhappy
Jenny: but this is a fine time frame

Rob Hock: in the world of internet retailers, this is the slowest thing i have encountered.

Jenny: I think you are feeling you placed your order Monday
Jenny: but please understand

Rob Hock: also, the 7 hour phone window is poor

Jenny: for us we did not get it till Tuesday

Rob Hock: yes, i know

Jenny: and it shipped Thursday

Rob Hock: i know

Jenny: Which is very fast

Rob Hock: no, it is NOT
Rob Hock: your website probably gets 100 orders a day
Rob Hock: i know since i have 2 order numbers several days apart
Rob Hock: i dont expect you to argue with me

Jenny: Please tell me how I may assist you sir

Rob Hock: clearly you cannot. youonly write down account information which i had already
Rob Hock: goodbye.

Jenny: Well I am able to do all that any rep can do

Rob Hock: i know. its nothing personal

Jenny: Thank you for choosing LostMyPhone.com
Goodbye.
"


Appearantly if you want something shipped faster, you not only have to click on the proper shipping option and be charged accordingly AND THEN ALSO check the a box next to this phrase

"Rush Processing on this order up till 4.30PM EST ADDITONAL $5.00"

Thats the only way to get your order processed same day...give the $5 more bucks (in addition to the $13.75 PROCESSING FEE). The website never tells you any of this. It just boasts same day shipping if you order before 2 or 3pm (I forget which but is stardard of any online store) "Rush Processing" appears as an option for late afternoon buyers only. I then request someone contact me by phone and I was pomised within 48 hours I would hear from someone (of course they never call).
My phone does arrive two days after they shipped it. It did not work so I emailed them requesting someone call me (pointless) but they did email me saying they would honor their 7 day return policy. So I mailed it back and two weeks after my "UPS delivary confirmation" mailed them again...wondering what happened to my refund. I got an email saying they refunded the phone which is good. Now I'm just trying to get my extended warranty money back, but now (after along string of back and forth replys to the same address) my emails are no longer being recieved. I've gotten TWO sent beck to me so far saying

"PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550 Cannot relay. Mailbox not available "

This company is a nasty piece of work and I hope I've prevented you from even considering wasting your time with them

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