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General Mac hardware discussions: Should I wait......Or buy now

by 34skyline - 10/5/05 5:26 PM
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Post 16 of 25

If you need it now…

by NTropy - 10/7/05 4:34 PM In reply to: Should I wait......Or buy now? by bigmamou

It's the same with any computer despite changes coming to the Mac platform. If you need a new computer now, buy it now. If you're okay with your machine now and simply want to try out a Mac for giggles, wait until the MacIntels come out.

Please be aware that most Mac sites with discussions devoted to this expect the initial MacIntels to be the consumer machines (iMac, eMac, iBook, Mini). If you're looking for a pro grade machine, buy now. Also be aware that the MacIntels aren't expected for another year though that could change.

Rumors - RUMORS - have it that OS X on the development Pentium 3.2's absolutely screams but there are no video or sound drivers optimized for it so those both lag significantly.

Post 17 of 25

None of us "outsiders" know

by bblackley - 10/7/05 9:07 PM In reply to: Should I wait......Or buy now? by bigmamou

The move to a Mac based Intel chip machine is eagerly awaited by some and mourned by others. In theory, changing out the Motorola chips for Intel chips shouldn't decrease performance, as the technology for Intel and Motorola ought to be competitive.

And if Intel chips can run OS X, it won't be like you're buying a Windows box which performs like a Windows box (or trading in your Cadillac Mac for a Pinto Macintel, as some would say). The ultimate answer is most of us Mac enthusiasts -- and I am pretty hardcore -- don't know what the future will bring.

The theory I subscribe to is the wait plus one model before buying. Here's what I mean: The first boxes to come out are bound to be "glitchy" (do any of you guys remember the constant freezes and HD problems of the first blue and white G3 USB Macs?) as the new hardware and software work out the glitches in their young marriage.

The next model (NOTE, the SECOND generation release) should boast improvements and enough stability to merit making the buy, though you'll want to watch the reviews to see what happens.

Apple went to Intel to get a cheaper chip and to bring costs down learning something from what happened with the Mac Mini (We have one at work and it's an impressive little bugger for the dough). By waiting for an Intel Mac, you'll probably be saving some cash.

Now is any of this absolutely assured to happen? Well, of course not. These are computers in all their glitchy and techno-driven glory. So in concluding, I'd say wait a year if your current unit will hold out that long. If not, take the plunge now and look at upgrading in 24-36 months to the Macintel unit. Hey, even if Macintels suck, they are bound to be better than Wintel machines if for no other reason than the Unix core OS and the fact that hackers don't seem as intent on manufacturing Mac viruses and worms.

Post 18 of 25

don't wait...

by batavier - 10/7/05 1:10 PM In reply to: Should I wait......Or buy now by 34skyline

...there will always be some better technology around the bend. If you continue to wait for the next "bigger and better" technology you might as well have stayed with pencil and paper.

From what I've read about it, the next Intel PC microprocessor (the one that will go into the next generation of Macs) will not be that much of a technological improvement over the G4s and G5s. It will finally have a better power management, AND it will just allow Apple to compete on the (silly) GHz race.

Post 19 of 25

You never know but ......

by cadedraco0093 - 10/7/05 3:22 PM In reply to: don't wait... by batavier

Well a mac that is 3 ghz would be nice, the g5s out now are as good as it will get for macs right now. Even the Intel macs will have some bugs to work out and it will take them a while to get the machines as reliable as the g5s are now. If your might think about getting a laptop, the same is preety much true. While the g4 isn't the best chip, the new powerbooks will be able to keep up for a long while, and even if IBM manages to get a mobile g5 chip, it won't be for a long time, and even then it won't be much more powerful than the g4's.

So buying now isn't a bad idea, or at least not one that you will regret. I even just ordered a 15-in. Powerbook which has a better preformance than the old power mac g4 I'm typing on right now.

Post 20 of 25

I always know:

by sky7 - 10/7/05 10:41 PM In reply to: You never know but ...... by cadedraco0093

I always know the fortune of Steve Job and companies come from the Apple user.
So many system are not upgradable. The loyal user brainwashed to shell out more dough for completely new hardware.
Back from the Apple III, Lisa attraction. Upgrade Mac 128K to 512 K does not came from Apple. You need some good 3rd party supplier. Future bus, SCSI different connectors, Even ADB to USB KBD and mouse.
Apple do not care user's early investment. Apple will always try to maximize the profit and get those fat cat fatter.

Post 21 of 25

your point being ?

by grimgraphix - 10/9/05 9:54 AM In reply to: I always know: by sky7

Sky
I don't know of any computer companies out there that aren't in the business of making money.

Apple performs because each machine is optimized to get the most out of its native architecture and loaded OS at the given time. Apple sticks to a price point to make money... smaller company needs a higher profit per machine to stay afloat. Apple has been slower to adopt some features as "standard" opting to make them an add on upgrade instead, to boost their profits.

Apple tries to put out the best product they can for a profit margin that keeps them afloat and allows Jobs to vacation where ever he wants, when ever he wants. This is true. I wish I could build a mac from off the shelf parts like a pc but you can't.

As for Macintel... I'll wait for the bugs to be worked out but thats just because I'm still waiting on my fortune to come in.

grim

Post 22 of 25

Jobs and vacations

by mrmacfixit Moderator - 10/9/05 5:01 PM In reply to: your point being ? by grimgraphix

Last I heard, Steve Jobs drew $1.00 (That's ONE with a capital W).
Now there are not many places one can vacation on for just a dollar.

P

Post 23 of 25

from "the mac observer" Dec 2004

by grimgraphix - 10/9/05 5:48 PM In reply to: Jobs and vacations by mrmacfixit Moderator

"""Many people have held up Mr. Jobs as the poster child for such corporate governance excess based on his stock grant, though the full picture is slightly different. While Mr. Jobs did receive that massive grant, and he also was given a jet worth some $84 million, this is the only compensation Mr. Jobs has received from Apple since returning to the helm of the company in 1997.

In addition, Mr. Jobs' grant vests over three years, meaning that they do not become fully his until March of 2006. That moves his total compensation for 10 years of service to Apple to approximately $158.8 million, or $15.9 million per year."""

http://www.macobserver.com/article/2004/12/28.2.shtml

A little bit more than $1.00... I like the way you spell though Peter. lol

grim

Post 24 of 25

Agreed

by mrmacfixit Moderator - 10/9/05 8:15 PM In reply to: from "the mac observer" Dec 2004 by grimgraphix

but his actual salary?

$1.00

P

Post 25 of 25

(NT) He's not a tyco exec by any means ! LOL

by grimgraphix - 10/10/05 7:13 AM In reply to: Agreed by mrmacfixit Moderator

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