Peripherals: LCD vs CRT monitor for gaming
a relief
by sabine1215 - 9/17/05 2:19 PM In reply to: Strange, given the LCD my laptop has by leobhI'm feeling alot better about my decision to try the vx924 after all this great input; I have an LCD at work and like it, but have never played games on it. It should be coming Monday, so we'll see. Can't be soon enough- my "dying" CRT is making odd noises and getting darker and darker!
Sabine
wow
by sabine1215 - 9/22/05 7:29 PM In reply to: a relief by sabine1215Just set up the new Viewsonic VX924 lcd - I was definitely worried for nothing! There is no ghosting even when playing fast paced games. The screen is so vivid and easy on the eyes (you were so right R. Proffitt!) that I've barely noticed any decrease in resolution. As a matter of fact, with the lack of glare the images seem less "flat" somehow. I feel like I'm seeing alot of things "for the first time." This is all in addition to the lightweight, very sleek design of the monitor as well. Overall, I'm glad I ditched the CRT-
Sabine
CRT still best technology
by proels1 - 10/7/05 6:08 AM In reply to: LCD vs CRT monitor for gaming by sabine1215Don't forget that CRT technology still provides the best quality image. In terms of black level, contrast, and quality of images and motion, Top CRT sets are better than any plasma or LCD display. Unfortunately CRT's negatives are heavy weight and limited size. Top of the line CRT Tv sets are only 37 inches, and weigh up to 200 lbs. But the image is outstanding.
CRT's ARE KING... FOR NOW
by christian15213 - 10/7/05 6:25 AM In reply to: CRT still best technology by proels1it is true, I have done a lot of research regarding this issue... what I wanted to get from the research and what I want to share with you all is this... CRT's are king over LCD and or Plasma's... this unfortunetly is true for television sets and the whole HDTV thing too. I have a panasonic 36 inch HDTV that BLOWSSSS my neighbors very expensive flat wall unit away... He is never happy about it and I explained to him this... YOU should have waited...
the LCD and PLASMA technology is going to become obsolete... and VERY SOON... LQ, a division of GE... is close to coming up with a SUPER CRT system that will virtually be a flat screen CRT... again, this will blow the competicion away once it comes into fruition... As well, there is a lot of other technolog that is coming along as well that will also be a lot better than LCD and CRT technology...
CRT or LCD - great discussion!
by airmancoleman - 10/7/05 6:43 AM In reply to: CRT's ARE KING... FOR NOW by christian15213Having lurked through this entire thread, I've learned quite a lot. Thanks for posting the questions and answers. I have a much-loved (and amazingly long-lived) 21" CRT that has begun to do the almost-imperceptible but eye-frazzling flicker thing.
Bummer!
From the threads so far, I'm inclined to wait a while longer...wonder if those new-and-improved (toward flat) CRT's are just around the corner? Wouldn't that be nice!
Check this...
by GaryRW - 10/7/05 6:53 AM In reply to: CRT or LCD - great discussion! by airmancolemanIf you're getting any flicker at all on a CRT check your display settings to make sure the refresh hasn't been changed to 60 Hz rather than 72+ Hz. Sometimes programs (mostly games in the past) reset this when autoswitching to a higher resolution that the CRT can only display at 60 Hz. Even highend CRT's can do 80+ Hz these days at high resolution.
You're right
by GaryRW - 10/7/05 6:45 AM In reply to: CRT's ARE KING... FOR NOW by christian15213I have a pair of 21'' HP p1130 flat CRT's I bought used at the end of 3 yr corporate lease. They can do better than 1920x1080 needed for the top HDTV broadcasts. You can't even buy a plasma, LCD, DLP that will do that now. Once you've seen true 1920x1080 HDTV you won't want to go back to the lower 720 res HDTV. Practically all your broadcast HDTV programming is 1920x1080. Yes, there is work on newer CRT's with electron guns parallel to the screen allowing much shorter depth, but you're still going to have a big weight disadvantage because of the need to protect the vacuum stresses. And what kind of complexity and weight will be needed to deflect electron beam almost 90 degrees?
LCD vs cart
by markgj - 10/7/05 7:42 AM In reply to: LCD vs CRT monitor for gaming by sabine1215last November I got a 20" LCD with a 80 refresh the same as my cart 17" , as soon as i turned it on i could See the difference . i play age of wonders shadow magic quite a bit , the resolution was so much better there was much more detail to the game .
markgj
LCDs, only 1 Native Resolution
by t_bacome - 10/7/05 8:45 AM In reply to: LCD vs CRT monitor for gaming by sabine1215The main thing I would be cautious of is the resolution. LCDs have ONE native resolution whereas CRTs can multisync. If you are gaming make sure your video card can run the native resolution at a speed you like b/c the graphics won't be nearly as sharp at a lesser res.
definately true, but shouldn't be an issue for most ppl
by ackmondual - 10/7/05 12:01 PM In reply to: LCDs, only 1 Native Resolution by t_bacomeUnless you're getting a 15" LCD or smaller, you'll have 1280x960 to work with. Of all the games I've played that supported the ranges of 1024x768 and 800x600, all of them looked fine. Most ppl AFAIK don't switch around res constantly in productivity. Just for gaming
Dell FPW2005
by TSVAMP - 10/7/05 10:48 AM In reply to: LCD vs CRT monitor for gaming by sabine1215I am using a 20" Wide format Dell FPW2005 for my gaming PC and it is incredibly smooth. One thing to remember when buying a flat panel for gamin is to have 16ms or better on the response time or you will see ghosting. I chose the dell for a few reasons A) It is using the same LCD Panel as the Apple cinema series monitors. The panel is made by LG. 2) The price was unbeatable on the size. Was able to find a deal on www.edealsinfo.com that allowed me to pick this monitor up for a little over $400. Now this is the price range that you can get a fairly decent 19" from Samsung with a 12ms response. and 3) The clarity was unbeatible on my Radeon Card. and it allows you to hook up 2 PCS and a few other devices on it's 4 inputs.
Depends on the LCD
by mackspane - 10/7/05 6:26 PM In reply to: LCD vs CRT monitor for gaming by sabine1215I am one of the many "core gamers" (buys 1+ game/week) out there and I've gone to great expense for my hobby. I don't hold back on expense. I own a Falcon NW Mach V, and keep it updated regularly. The point is, I don't buy sub par equipment.
My choice for gaming in a monitor?
The HP f2304 23" 1900x1220 LCD. It's wide screen, so supports that' feature in the growing number of games that support it. It's digital, not analog and that's a BIG deal when you're looking for a great picture. It also has, to my knowledge, the highest resolution you're going to find.
It also has a clearer, more brilliant picture than any monitor I've ever seen. It's pricey at over $2,000 per (I have 2 and use the dual monitor support), but they're worth every penny.
And yes, BTW... I did consider a CRT, but today? Well, that's kind of like saying you stick to vinyl because you like the little crackling sound in the music.
I've never had any regrets about going with LCD. Just the opposite. I've had many many night of far more pleasureable, brilliant, beautiful gaming, with colors so bright, FAR more clear, and reflection free color.
Now, if you're going to skimp on your monitor and want to save money, I would NOT encourage you to go LCD. The lower end LCD's ghost and actually have problems keeping a clear picture (ESPECIALLY analog) and you won't find many DVIs in LCD on the low end.
So if money's no object, get the HP f2304 and if you don't have the money to at least get an LCD with a DVI interface, then you might as well stay with your CRT, but at least buy the Spider (a color correction tool (hardware) which works especially well on CRTs... but not quite as necessary on LCD's).
Mack
lcd plus good video card
by incognito19 - 10/8/05 6:01 AM In reply to: LCD vs CRT monitor for gaming by sabine1215I have 730B samsung syncmaster with a 6600gt nvidia graphics card. The samsung has a 8ms refresh rate at 72hz. Runs great using 1280-1024 in bf2-halflife2-unreal-AA. Never used crt for gaming so cant comment on that but i am surt i would not go back. no ghosting at all.
Dell 2405 rocks baby
by mcleode - 10/18/05 12:07 AM In reply to: LCD vs CRT monitor for gaming by sabine1215A few weeks ago I bought the Dell 2405FPW 24" widescreen, replacing a 19" Viewsonic. Running my fav game Battlefield 2 at 1600x1200 and it's awsome, even though native resolution for the 2405 is 1920x1200, just a pitty that BF2 does not support that resolution yet. It's running through DVI on one box and Analog on my old box both at 1920x1200 60Hz.
IMHO widescreens rule! And the Dell 2405 is cheap for what it offers.
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