Spyware, viruses, & security : Is it ok to run 2 AV program?
Keep in mind
by bgoodman4 - 10/3/05 10:44 PM In reply to: Thank you and yes by nino88You must keep in mind that no AV program will protect you against all possible attacks. A new virus, malware, spyware, Trojan, etc. can strike at any time and if your AV or other protective programs are not yet equipped to deal with the new problem you will be in trouble. The only solution is to have your PC fully backed up. Then, if GoBack is functioning you can simply go back in time to the point before you got the problem. With Acronis True Image you can do a full (clean) reinstall of the OS if necessary and then copy your entire PC back to the way it was using one of your saved (to an external drive) drive images.
The relatively modest cost of these two programs is well worth the protection and time savings they offer. Remember how long it took you to do the 2 reinstalls of the PC. With GoBack the time to revert the PC would be under 5 minutes, with Acronis, a few hours of unattended PC time. Both programs are very simple to use and are very effective. Do yourself a favour and check into both of them.
Resource drain running all this stuff, besides....
by bgoodman4 - 10/3/05 11:06 PM In reply to: Running 2 Av's by dogteams1Thats a lot of stuff to run (uses much in the way of system resources), and they are only good until something new comes along.
A forever solution is to back up the OS, keeping an archive of disk images. Acronis True Image, Norton Ghost, etc. will do that for you.
Norton GoBack is a quick and extremely simple solution to the problem, in addition to which you can use it in ''Safe Try Mode'' to test new programs, download files you are uncertain of, change your system settings, etc, and then if you don't like what you have done you just click on don't save and you are back to the way you were. If you do want to keep the changes, then simply click save changes, and you are done. This program should be on every PC sold. For $39 it is the best insurance for your PC you can buy.
virus and security alerts
by mustafa110 - 10/4/05 12:32 AM In reply to: Is it ok to run 2 AV program? by nino88you should better use quick heal antivirus and online protection and a sygate firewall for removing viruses and w32 worms and also you should use tuneup utilities 2006 for removing junk files and folders and invalid entries in your registry.
also it is not ok to run 2av programs in the single machine bcause it also causes trouble to recognise a virus or worm significantly added to you system.
according to me it is better not to use norton antivirus and firewall bcause it slows down your pc.
better use quick heal or macfee.
for any queries you can mail me at:- mustafaziyai@rediffmail.com.
As long as it doesn't destroy Windows, it's OK
by Frodo42 - 10/4/05 2:13 AM In reply to: Is it ok to run 2 AV program? by nino88Hi
We did some checking a year ago, installing two AV programs in various combos in a computer. In several cases, Windows froze solid and had to be reinstalled.
I assume this is not what you want from your 'protection' programs. I recommend sticking with one. Unlike adware removers, most AV programs are able to kill pretty much all strains of virus. One will do.
Assistance with NIS 2005
by BumFluff - 10/4/05 9:52 AM In reply to: Is it ok to run 2 AV program? by nino88Norton Internet Security 2005 has a function where you can turn off things such as ActiveX controls, cookies, etc for sites that aren't allowed.
First open NIS 2005, highlight 'Firewall' then click on 'Configure' and finally click on 'Custom Level...'. From there turn the Personal firewall, Java Applet Security and ActiveX Control security all to high. click on 'Ok' then 'Ok' on the next window. you should be back to the main control panel for NIS 2005.
Next highlight 'Privacy Control' then click on 'Configure' and once again on 'Custom Level...'. turn Private Information to Medium and Cookie Blocking to high. Click Ok, the window will close. You should be back to the Privacy control panel. Click on Advanced. Turn 'Information about your browser' to block, Information about visited sites to Permit same site, Animated Images to Permit, Scripts to Block, and Flash Animation to Permit. Click on 'Ok' then click on 'Ok'.
All scripts for every site you visit will now be blocked. To allow a specific site (One that you trust) open the NIS2005 control panel, highlight Privacy control, click on Configure, Click on Advanced, Click on Add Site then type in the host name or web server of the page you'd like to permit. The host name for this server would be reviews.cnet.com. You may also want to add cnet.com to the list as well. After you do this a window will open with a list and 3 tabs at the top. While the host name you just input is highlighted in the left hand column make sure all inputs for the first two tabs are switched to Permit. This will allow the site to work correctly. Doing this for every site you trust will allow you to surf the net basically care free.
Thank you , I do some of the
by nino88 - 10/4/05 1:27 PM In reply to: Assistance with NIS 2005 by BumFluffsuggestions you give on my personal notebook. But I'm not allowed to do so on my other notebooks. My wife would keep calling me at work and said that there was something wrong with her notebooks lol. Then she'd do more damage like clicking "yes" or "allow" on everything or force the computer to shutdown. I have to clean up and configure her notebooks often if I set the security too high.
Who Is Your Internet Service Provider?
by kingdomofjones - 10/4/05 2:47 PM In reply to: Is it ok to run 2 AV program? by nino88It would allow the forum as such to know better how all of your Laptops are connected to the internet.It is an important area of understanding as your superhighway runs through your browser.
Long Long Time Ago
by kingdomofjones - 10/4/05 4:26 PM In reply to: Who Is Your Internet Service Provider? by kingdomofjonesI was a Earthlink subscriber for about 1 3/4 years with DSL-Modem capabilities through a Earthlink DSL account.One day I was to discover that there on my Home page was a picture of a family with its entire history from the favorites this and thats to background pictures of there home and local settings in Norway.Like it or not the browser that Earthlink has was at the source of there ability to hijack my home page and as you suggested it took me along time to get back to normal,in fact it was to happen again and again till finally I was able to stabilize the situation.The best answer was first,make certain that your computer or any of your computers that require or run a windows operating system are fully updated and you check this area with deligence making certain that whatever can be updated is not put off and that you continously check for available updates.Two check with your ISP as to the source of the information that is now present which shouldn't be.Don't forget the pipeline is essentially your browser,e-mail and so on which are being provided by a Internet Service Provider-(one of there servers was the component used to gain access to your particular address.)
I dont envy your job
by kingdomofjones - 10/4/05 4:30 PM In reply to: Long Long Time Ago by kingdomofjonesbecause I would ditch the ISP.In case you are interested
This is not friendly stuff
by kingdomofjones - 10/4/05 4:36 PM In reply to: I dont envy your job by kingdomofjonesThere is good knowledgable discussion at http://www.grc.com browse down to bottom of the page and view information as to Earthlink Web browser-meta tag charge.This is how these various forces are at work out of site.
COX cable
by nino88 - 10/4/05 6:52 PM In reply to: Who Is Your Internet Service Provider? by kingdomofjonesI think I'm getting a much better protection now after learning here. Before I only depended on AV and Firewall only without real time spyware protection program (spywareblaster, SG, etc). I also didn't make use of whatever I had to the fullest (adjust the security setting etc).
Well, I've learned my lesson the hard way (time wasting reinstalling XP). Now I'm starting to get a grip on this computer stuff (including the issue in the hardware section lol). So, if I have nothing to do next time, I'll build myself a PC (although I know for sure I end up spending more than buying one) lmao.
Buying a computer
by jgeeves - 10/7/05 5:16 AM In reply to: COX cable by nino88Yes, you may spend more money building rather than buying a computer. That said, by building one, you have the advantage of knowing exactly what the computer is, you can customize as to what you use it for, and you have a choice of OS. If you play games, the MS os's are pretty much the only game in town for novice users. If it's strictly internet browsing, or work related computing you're after and you're willing to spend some time educating for Linux, FreeBSD (or one of the other BSD OS's), and Solaris for x86 now you can download and install one of those OS's for *free*.
I am almost totally MS free, except for my gaming machine, all of my machines are either Fedora, FreeBSD, or Solaris. The best thing about not using a MS OS is that although you need AV on all systems, you can sit back and laugh (as I do almost daily) when friends tell you they clicked on a link saying their old High School Sweetheart was looking for them, and then they got a virus! 
2 is not a good idea. You only need one that's good.
by dbain2k - 10/7/05 5:57 AM In reply to: Is it ok to run 2 AV program? by nino88And that would be Kaspersky. I have scanned through all of the replies here and I have seen no mention of it; strange, considering that it has the highest detection rate of all AV programs available today. That said, the only drawback with using Kaspersky is that it's a little bit of a resource hog, but I think that's a small price to pay for the best AV protection that money can buy.
I used Norton for years until I discovered Kaspersky, which would probably have been about 2 or so years ago, and I havn't looked back since!
They offer a free 30-day trial on their website if you would like to give it a try before you buy it. http://www.kaspersky.com
Their anti-hacker (firewall) is fairly good too, but it's still not the best. I prefer ZoneAlarm for a firewall.
It's very true what others have said; Norton and McAfee are really only riding on their past success, but their programs have really become too bloated.
Hope that helps. 
Any Suggestions?
by sprng2rn - 10/7/05 8:13 AM In reply to: 2 is not a good idea. You only need one that's good. by dbain2kMuch to my chagrin, only became aware of NAV's inability to play nice w/WinME following a recent update. Unfortunately I agree w/prior mention that Norton is resting on it's laurels... that said, began reading threads and learning volumns due to a recent problem detected with AdAware SEPlus identified as ''Critical'' Vulnerability: possible virus that returns everytime I start my computer - therefore, I begin each day with the following:
AdAware - ck for updates
AdAware - system scan, removal of stated vulnerability (and a host of other tracking cookies/items)
NAV - live update
NAV - system scan
Spybot
Windows Update
Have installed Spybot since problem began, and altho initially it cleared several items, has come up clean every scan since.
On occasion (like today! :)) things run pretty smooth, but in general, problems are that
-windows will freeze, interestingly enough, with a pattern... 1st freeze lasts ~ 30 seconds, momentarily releases and immediately freezes again for up to 1 min. OR permanantly and must reboot
-unable to ''minimize'' windows from systray
-receive an ''Runtime 91'' error when closing system down, which appears once desktop has cleared itself
-Windows Update consistently returns a Critial Update for Outlook Express (which I don't even use) despite daily downloads noted as ''Successful'' in my ''Installation History''
There are a handful of other symtoms, however these 4 seem to be most consistent.
I feel as if I know only enough to be dangerous (lol) therefore treading carefully - and realize this may not be the most appropriate thread to post to - any assistance and/or redirection would be greatly appreciated!
Virus applications
by Maisie663 - 10/7/05 8:51 AM In reply to: Is it ok to run 2 AV program? by nino88I would say it not wise to--my experience was two virus programs and hard drive replacement--they work against each other and thus I was advised by people in the know DON'T DO IT AGAIN> Good Luck
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