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by Psych Doc - 9/27/05 1:17 PM
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Post 16 of 25

re

by sears tv guy - 9/29/05 9:39 AM In reply to: Re: by Psych Doc

I think its an excellent tv. Though most plasmas do not impress me sony's do stand out as good tv's in the plasma field. The 1024 X 1024 gets to me a little bit but since its only on a 42" its not affected as much as a larger screen would be.

Post 17 of 25

Re:...

by Psych Doc - 9/29/05 12:26 PM In reply to: re by sears tv guy

...What's your take on the 1024x1024 resolution?

Thanks for the feedback.

Post 18 of 25

It all depends on your "life styles" ;-)

by masterying01 - 10/2/05 1:08 AM In reply to: All The Projection Formats Are Horrible, Including LCD, DLP, by Psych Doc

a lot of people shopping for plasmas and projos are sitting fairly far away from the tv(say 12-18 feet at least). instead of spending $10k on a DECENT 60inch plasma, they can spend spend $4k on a fairly NICE projo at the same size. especially when the customer is not interested in hanging it on the wall, the projo is definitely a much better value.

there are many more factors in determining the right kind of tv for anybody.

Post 19 of 25

I partly agree

by Joeybaby - 10/3/05 7:16 PM In reply to: All The Projection Formats Are Horrible, Including LCD, DLP, by Psych Doc

I agree with you for the most part...Plasmas do look MUCH better than projection screens...the only problem is i play A LOT and i do mean A LOT of video games...so i cant risk the burn ins.

Post 20 of 25

Good Point....

by Psych Doc - 10/3/05 8:17 PM In reply to: I partly agree by Joeybaby

...I suppose I should have prefaced what I said to indicate, "for actual TV/movie/sporting event watching."

For video games, you are probably better off staying away from plasma.

Post 21 of 25

Have you seen one thats been calibrated by an ISF Tech?

by stevemilleresq - 10/8/05 5:59 AM In reply to: All The Projection Formats Are Horrible, Including LCD, DLP, by Psych Doc

If not, you have no idea what you are talking about. A properly calibrated hdtv will blow your socks off.

Post 22 of 25

Or try the new Digital Video Essentials (DVE) DVD...

by STS - 10/24/05 12:23 PM In reply to: Have you seen one thats been calibrated by an ISF Tech? by stevemilleresq

... and calibrate it yourself. However, I have to admit that:

(1) the improvement will not be as good as you can expect from a good ISF Tech with the right equipment (prices range from $150-400, depending on technology of set, how far off the factory settings are, where you are located, the time since the last calibration (if any), etc.),

(2) the amount of improvement can be limited because of the use of the standard color, tint, contrast, brigtness, and sharpness controls (though you may be able to find service codes for your set and be able to access more low level settings and permanently save them), and

(3) it only approximates HDTV settings since it is DVD (limited to NTSC 480p max resolution/coloring and will not affect HD inputs (such as HDMI or other). It will work well for composite, S-video, and component (including HDTV) inputs.

Regardless, almost ANY non-calibrated can be made to look much better than what you are likely to see in the stores (especially chains like Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.)

ISF calibration is the best way to go, but it can be expensive if you have a CRT-based projection TV as their settings will change over time (a problem with analog projection sets) as you will probably have to have them recalibrated every 6 months (initially) to 2 years (after the first 3-4 calibrations and the set settles down).

The DVE DVD (it is better than the older (non-digital) Video Essentials DVD) at least allows you to keep it looking pretty good between calibrations, even to the point of extending the time between calibrations. In my experience, once you have viewed a calibrated set, it is difficult to go to an uncalibrated set. The colors are just to messed up and oversaturated.

Scott

Post 23 of 25

Any Advice On How To Find A Qualified ISF Technician?....

by Psych Doc - 10/24/05 12:34 PM In reply to: Or try the new Digital Video Essentials (DVE) DVD... by STS

...And one who's expert in your set. Are some of these people only good with Panasonics, Sonys, etc ro DLP but not plasma, etc? Or are they all good at calibrating all sets of all types and manufacturers?
My set is a 42" Sony (KDE-42XS955)

Post 24 of 25

Depends on where you live...

by STS - 10/24/05 7:04 PM In reply to: Any Advice On How To Find A Qualified ISF Technician?.... by Psych Doc

... as to whether or not you can find a good one. One of the ''difficult'' aspects of properly (optimally) calibrating a set is the availability of service codes and how much the manufacturer will let even service techs do.

For example, Mitsubishi has a pretty good reputation for both readily available service codes (you can find them on the 'net or various forums (try http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/index.php as it is one of the best and most varied forums)) and a great deal of adjustability. All of the rest fall somewhere below. Some are just downright poor in availability/adjustability. I'm not current on all the latest systems as I will not be in the market for at least a year.

If the person who does the work is ISF trained/certified, then they should be able to do an ''equally'' good job adjusting the set given:

(1) service code availability (more experienced techs will have access to a wider variety),

(2) the amount of adjustability built into the service menu,

(3) the range of adjustability (often limited by design decisions such as decoders, etc.), and

(4) their attention to detail and level of perfectionism (how thorough and how accurate they try to be)... it can be a very time consuming process, especially on CRT-based sets sometimes taking over 6 hours to get dialed in.

The bottom line is that if you get a good job done with an (reputable) ISF tech, the difference in the picture is stunning (if you are into accurate reproduction and not oversaturated pictures).

However, if you are on the budget, are a techy/nerd type (as I am) and can get the correct service codes, you can do a credible job with a DVD like Digital Video Essentials (and some of the demo video from DVE is truly stunning (HDTV master)). You can get a pure HD version on HD digital vhs, but it is more expensive (not to mention the cost of the player).

Anyway, I hope this helps a bit.

Scott

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