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General Mac hardware discussions: Should I wait......Or buy now
Should I wait......Or buy now
by 34skyline - 10/5/05 5:26 PMI've been reading about apple move to Intel chip next year and I was wondering should I wait for the intel chip version of apple computers or just buy know. I just bought the apple Mini about 5 months ago and know I want to graduate to a G5 computer.
Graduate
by mrmacfixit
- 10/2/05 5:01 AM
In reply to: Should I wait......Or buy now by 34skyline
If you want to graduate to G5, then go now. The G5 will go away at some point, not immediately, once the move to Intel starts.
Consider the G5 iMac line with the 17" or 20" LCD monitors
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Yes you should, if you could
by doctorcrack - 10/7/05 8:55 AM In reply to: Graduate by mrmacfixit
I bought a Dell inspiron laptop two weeks back. Then got the news that Steve Jobs has announced the marriage of Macs with Intel. And I was the unhappiest man on earth for having bought this Dell thing. Personally speaking, I hate windows for the heavy maintenance it requires to keep away the viruses, defragment drives and clean up the registry. Still, I went for it just because all the software I already have runs only on Windows.
The fact remains that Mac users spend most of their time in productivity with their computer, whereas Win Doze users spend their time doing useless things - which doesn't come as a surprise taking into account the design and vulnerabilities of the operating system. In fact, I'm willing to buy entire new set of mac versions of all the software I have... because it'll save my time tremendously! At least I won't get a notification every two hours - ''Norton Internet Security : A recent attempt to attack your computer was blocked. Click here for details''.
But now there's hope, and I am definitely going to wait until Steve announces shipping of MacIntels. I'll sell Dell and buy a MacIntel.
If Apple decides to release Mac Os Leopard that can run on my existing Dell laptop (as Michael Dell wants Steve Jobs to do), I would be very happy to keep the existing laptop and get rid of windows.
(By the way Steve Jobs is the CEO of Apple Computers, and Michael Dell is the CEO of Dell Computers)
Unlikely to happen
by mrmacfixit - 10/7/05 10:28 AM
In reply to: Yes you should, if you could by doctorcrack
I would not hold my breath waiting for the Mac OS to run on a Dell box.
That does not appear to be on the horizon for a while yet.
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Mac on Dell
by bavant - 10/9/05 4:47 PM In reply to: Unlikely to happen by mrmacfixit
There is actually a copy of the Mac OS out there that runs on Intel already, and Steven and Apple are trying their hardest to get all copies removed off the web. Google it, see what you get
Correct
by mrmacfixit - 10/10/05 4:47 AM
In reply to: Mac on Dell by bavant
You think that the next Beta version will not break that?
Thanks for the idea.
by C64GEOS - 10/13/05 7:37 AM In reply to: Yes you should, if you could by doctorcrackI also have a software investment that says stay with Windows and am unhappy with Windows performance. My Dell Inspiron 7500 (Pentium II) came with Win 98SE, and it crashed or froze so frequently that my friends got tired of hearing me complain, and said to upgrade to XP, as it was far more stable. I did. It is. BUT they didn't tell me that this system was bordorline capable of running it, & that it would be s o o o o o slow! My c64 system was as quick; didn't have as much capability, but did what I needed. I do like what else I can do with this Dell XP system, just deplore spending almost as much time waiting as working. Therefore, I have been considering a G5, but dread the chore of converting my files and getting Mac versions of my Win software.
Then I wondered about putting Windows on the Mac so I could continue using my existing softwars, BUT worry about the posibility of this combo just being a more expensive continuation of &^#$*(*&(@ speech results that my wife complains about.
Anyone have any experience with a G5 running XP vs starting over with all Apple software? (PS I really don't want to replace a computer every 2-3 years - nor can I afford to.) My main goal is for it to keep on working at a reasonable speed.
G5 and VPC
by mrmacfixit - 10/13/05 1:01 PM
In reply to: Thanks for the idea. by C64GEOS
Although VPC & XP are not too bad on a G5, it will never compare with a dedicated Windows machine. Obviously the more ooomph you have in the G5, the better it will run. It will NEVER be a gaming machine though.
What software do you have that is so important to you that you cannot afford to part with it?
You are going to be spending around 15K for top range iMac G5 and maybe more if you go for the PowerMac G5.
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what's the point of the change though?
by applerockz - 10/10/05 11:16 PM In reply to: Graduate by mrmacfixit
I still don't really get why apple's changing from IBM to Intel. Aren't the G5 processor faster than the Intel ones?
G5 chip is too hot
by grimgraphix - 10/11/05 4:45 AM In reply to: what's the point of the change though? by applerockzto put in a notebook. Heck, the G4 is so hot I bought a chill mat for my iBook to avoid roasting my chestnuts on the couch while I check my email. Extra generation of heat also uses up battery power. Furthermore, IBM (with its recent sale of its laptop division) seems to be avoiding further chip development in favor of other ventures.
grim
G5 is Hot
by xstacey - 10/14/05 7:43 AM In reply to: what's the point of the change though? by applerockzApple is switching because IBM can not create a G5 chip cool enough for the laptops.
Currently the top of the line powermac G5s are liquid cooled because they need to be. The processor module on a dual processor G5, when ordered from apple, includes the liquid cooling, and is actually bigger than a mac mini.
on the iMac G5 the Bus speed is reduced so it doesn't require as much cooling, but it's certainly no PowerMac in comparison.
A Pentuim M processor would allow apple to move forward with a "G6" powerbook in the near future.
Should I wait......Or buy now?
by bigmamou - 10/7/05 9:27 AM In reply to: Should I wait......Or buy now by 34skylineI too want to know whether to wait for the new Intel chip machines or just go ahead and buy a Powerbook now? The only 2 posts so far are either cheerleading or kvetching about Windows - I just want the facts. Will the Intel units be worth the wait? Will they be a quantum leap? Or, buy the current unit and save money when the new ones come out? I want some real comparisons - will I regret buying a Powerbook now?
Buy Mac now or wait?
by gradio - 10/7/05 9:34 AM In reply to: Should I wait......Or buy now? by bigmamouOne thing to keep in mind is that the first rollout of any new technology is often fraught with bugs, etc that can take a while to sort out. I'd be leery of buying the first generation of Intel-based macs until I'm convinced that they run reliably and my main software applications (such as Pro-Tools) etc runs well on it.
The g5's are going to be around for awhile, so I think they are a good investment.
Current today, expired tomorrow
by URTido - 10/7/05 12:18 PM In reply to: Buy Mac now or wait? by gradioTechnology moves at a pretty good pace, especially computers. I too am debating an upgrade, and here is more or less my take on upgrading now versus waiting until the MacIntel machines come out:
1) What are you working with now?
- In my case I have a 800 MHz iBook which made me fall in love with OSX and want to switch permanently from Windows to the Mac. I'm starting to run low on hard drive space, but otherwise my current system meets my needs.
2) How often do you plan to replace/upgrade your computer?
- Desktops are fairly easy to make upgrades to, but not so for a laptop. Ideally I'd like to replace my computer with the next to latest and greatest every 2-3 years. Therefore, if I bought a new Mac with PowerPC processor now, in 2-3 years I would replace it with a new machine which by then would be a MacIntel.
3) Software
- The full change from PowerPC to Intel based software is going to take a year or two. Many programs will likely work fine with Rosetta (albeit slow), but running natively on the computer will always be faster. Therefore, getting a PowerPC based Mac now means that when you replace your computer all of the software should be fully rewritten to run on Intel processors.
4) Money
- Replacing your computer is an expensive thing to do; though not as bad as if it were a car. Still, if you have no use for your old system there's always eBay or other online sales sites to sell your computer on in order to offset the cost of a new machine. The newer the machine you're selling, the more money you'll get for it. Wait too long and you'll need to pay someone to dispose of your computer or recycle it.
- If you get a desktop computer, such as the PowerMac G5, invest in a good display, keyboard, and mouse, as these peripherals can be reused on future systems after upgrading the tower.
So the bottom line, if your current system is out dated, upgrading to a new PowerPC based Mac is a sound investment because you should be able to get at least some of your money back to go towards an Intel based Mac once the bugs are worked out.
Possibly
by mrmacfixit - 10/7/05 10:32 AM
In reply to: Should I wait......Or buy now? by bigmamou
if you actually asked that question, you might get the answers you are looking for.
However, it would be extremely difficult to compare an Intel Powered Mac, which does not exist in the wild, with a IBM powered Mac, which does.
Unless, of course, you have inside knowledge of what is going to be driving the Intel powered Macs.
I merely answered the question: Should I buy or should I wait.
Not exactly cheerleading.
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