Spyware, viruses, & security : i won't say "we told you so".....but
- 9/20/05 11:41 AM
i won't say "we told you so".....but
by jonah jones - 9/20/05 11:41 AM
.....we did
Firefox: Honeymoon Over?
We've said before that the primary security advantage Firefox had over Internet Explorer was the fact that it was used by only a fraction of the computer using population. This made it a less attractive target for hackers - why waste your time and effort writing exploits for a program that would only affect a small percentage of users, when your IE exploits would reach so many more? This is called, in the IT security biz, security through obscurity. And contrary to popular belief, it works - for a while. The problem is that obscurity tends not to last. As more and more people have switched to Firefox for its security advantage, its own growing popularity has made it more of a target. Now, according to security expert George Ou, the tipping point has been reached: Firefox now has more vulnerabilities per month than IE. Read George's blog article on this at
http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050920TI-Firefox
Dang Jonah, a lot of bubble burst...figured
by John Robie - 9/20/05 2:04 PM In reply to: i won't say "we told you so".....but by jonah jones
tho it would eventually come about.
JR
Been on the Fox for awhile.
Had to happen w/ all the Hype...but I wonder if.....
by tobeach - 9/20/05 9:46 PM In reply to: i won't say "we told you so".....but by jonah jones
my using Mozilla 1.4.2_11 is any better? Usually a fix is announced for FF with a Moz match a week later. Often these seem to come from a common Sun Java hole. I think I recall a few that were specific to FF but not Mozilla. Maybe Moz. decided not to patch pending new version soon? Hmmm. Moz/FF does seem more interested in patching all posible where as M$ tends to leave a larger # unpatched (figuring on end of life cycle?) until now anyway. Will bear watching plus how far out is obscure??
Hmmm...:-)
No, it's not.
by DarkHawke - 9/23/05 12:35 PM In reply to: Had to happen w/ all the Hype...but I wonder if..... by tobeachMozilla is up to v 1.7.12, so if you're lower than that, you're missing all the security fixes that the latest version includes.
(NT) Installed.12 Yesterday. Thanks for post.! :-)
by tobeach - 9/23/05 10:37 PM In reply to: No, it's not. by DarkHawkeMozilla hits back at browser security claim
by Brent Welch - 9/20/05 9:53 PM In reply to: i won't say "we told you so".....but by jonah jones
Mozilla 'is in much better shape' than Microsoft when it comes to fixing security problems, claims the organisation. Mozilla has reacted to a Symantec report issued on Monday which said serious vulnerabilities were being found in Mozilla's browsers faster than in Microsoft's Internet Explorer. The study was conducted over the first six months of 2005.
Tristan Nitot, president of Mozilla Europe, hit back by claiming on Monday that when a vulnerability is found Mozilla's "ability to react, find a solution and put it into the user's hands is better than Microsoft."
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39219186,00.htm
(NT) Firefox 1.0.7 released with security updates! :)
by glenn30 - 9/21/05 6:49 AM In reply to: Mozilla hits back at browser security claim by Brent WelchIsn't this kind of missing the point.
by ohanlonp - 9/23/05 3:45 AM In reply to: Mozilla hits back at browser security claim by Brent WelchSurely Mozilla are missing the point here. It doesn't matter, to your average non-technical user, how quickly a hole is patched. The fact that the hole is there is the bit that matters.
The fact that security has been much touted as a reason to switch to Firefox, makes this much more concerning. I appreciate that a browser is only ever going to be as good as the platform (operating system/language) that it is built on, but it is misguided to claim that one browser is safe and another isn't. The simple fact is that hackers are going to go after the larger systems, and Firefox has achieved sufficient market penetration to make it attractive to them. Added to this is the fact that many hackers will see Firefox as a challenge because of it's security claims.
Don't get me wrong, I love Firefox. To a large extent, it's the browser that IE should have been.
Oh well. It had to happen
by snharden - 9/23/05 4:24 AM In reply to: Isn't this kind of missing the point. by ohanlonpMaybe now all the firefoxers will begin to realize that FF is far from perfect. If the truth be known a browser that would be totally immune to all the internet nasties would be totally unusable.
None of this surprises me in the least. Now let's watch all the FF'ers jump ship and go over to Opera now that it's free.
I, for one, will not.
by DarkHawke - 9/23/05 1:05 PM In reply to: Oh well. It had to happen by snhardenI gave Opera a spin around the block, but for all its zippy speed, it doesn't render pages as well as Firefox, and for all the bells and whistles on it, it lacks the wondrous extensions of Firefox that make web browsing an easier and far more pleasant experience.
Isn't it great that there is a choice!!!!
by Gorby - 9/25/05 5:36 PM In reply to: Oh well. It had to happen by snhardenIf people want to change from Firefox to Opera, IE to Firefox or whatever, isn't it great!! There are choices in browser solutions, not like other parts of the IT world. Notice how browser software is rapidly advancing. Choice - competition is fuelling this benefit to all users.
Let's have more choice and better products.
firefox is lacking...
by HTRon - 9/23/05 4:32 AM In reply to: i won't say "we told you so".....but by jonah jones
I tried firefox, several times through several versions...and there were just too many times where it would not work right on a website, and IE did! I really wanted firefox to work, but it's not there yet...
used for performance reasons
by Kre8te - 9/23/05 8:42 AM In reply to: firefox is lacking... by HTRonbear in mind, many people dont really care about security cause they dont think about what they have to be scared of.
I personally like it better, since its faster and everything can be done with one window. When I started out, a few sites didnt work because of activex. Subsequently, I have worked out sites using it arent that good anyway.
More sites use flash, which firefox is good at.
Don't blame Firefox, read this...
by Mendieta - 9/23/05 11:16 PM In reply to: firefox is lacking... by HTRonDon't Blame Mozilla, Internet Explorer is the browser that brought disorder to the Internet, please Visit the following link & read...
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/
Oh, leave it out, will you....
by DarkHawke - 9/23/05 12:59 PM In reply to: i won't say "we told you so".....but by jonah jones
...as they say 'cross the pond. Bottom line, Firefox and every other browser out there has had security flaws in the past, does have them now and will have them in the future. Ain't no one perfect and to gloat about someone else's imperfections is hubris in the extreme. The thing to wonder about is, even as IE closes in on its seventh iteration in about a decade of existence, why does it have so many problems? Firefox is a comparitive baby, as far as software life cycles go. Ain't even to v2.0 yet! Considering how well this ''toddler'' is running, I'm not one to complain too much if there's a stumble along the way.
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