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Are There High Definition DVD Players?...
by Psych Doc - 7/31/05 1:46 PM...And what would they play. In other words, are there any DVD's that are recorded to be decoded and played back in high definition?
I guess what I'm asking is "Is there any practical reason to get (if currently available) or wait to get a true HD DVD player or is a good quality "regular" DVD player essentially as good as it gets?"
Any other considerations?
High Definition DVDs and DVD players
by slmosqueda - 8/1/05 9:00 AM In reply to: Are There High Definition DVD Players?... by Psych DocHello,
Currently there have been no HD DVDs created. The highest DVD resolution out there is 720p which is actually Enhanced Definition TV (EDTV). These EDTV displays will actually make the DVD look better than a HDTV with 1080i/p resolution.
However, in the not so distant future DVD's will begin to be developed in HD using either Blue Ray or HD DVD. There some very large industry moving companies in both camps pushing the two formats.
The Blue Ray dvd is the most expensive to start producing because it requires purchasing new equipment that is capable of using the blue laser unlike the industry standard red laser in use today. Where as, the HD DVD might be a little quicker to adapt as it still uses the red laser and simply utilizes the current discs differently (I could get more technical if you would like, but that is it in a nut shell).
Take Care,
Shawn Mosqueda
WireSmart LLC
If you would like to contact me directly, click on the profile link below.
What He Said...
by jonline - 8/2/05 9:59 PM In reply to: High Definition DVDs and DVD players by slmosquedaI hear that in the next few years HD DVD's will be available as will higher resoulution playback in DVD players. The TVs, as of now, are ahead of their time, at least in the rhelm of DVD-watching.
Not what he said
by terrmul - 8/3/05 10:55 AM In reply to: High Definition DVDs and DVD players by slmosquedaActually, 720p IS HD and there are no HD DVD's readily available. DVD's are currently 480p which is an ED picture. However there are several DVD players which have built in scalers to convert the 480p format to either 720p or 1080i among others.
The two HD formats that are in contention are Blu-Ray and HD DVD.
In the Blu-Ray corner we have Sony-owned Columbia Tri-Star, and Sony just bought MGM. Recently, Disney said that it would release titles on Blu-Ray discs.
HD-DVD is backed by Time Warner (Warner Bros. and New Line), Universal, and Paramount. 20th Century Fox has yet to decide but is on the advisory boards for both formats (April 2005).
The latest news is that they may actually join together to create one format. Sony has been reaching out. However this is speculated to be due in part to even newer technologies that may supercede both rendering them, and all their R&D dollars, obsolete. Solution? Get it to market quick!
Wow...
by Allin4greeN - 8/3/05 4:20 PM In reply to: Not what he said by terrmulIt's kinda frightening that the first respondent is a "home theater installer". Not my home theater, I tell ya.
I am standing before the firing SQUAD!
by slmosqueda - 8/3/05 9:08 PM In reply to: Wow... by Allin4greeNExcuse me my LORDS,
I simply made a mistake in the post. EDTV is 480i and 480p. What I meant was that EDTV with a standard DVD player will project a cleaner image than a HDTV 1080i resolution at 720p. I know what I said and realized I made a mistake.
Sorry I did not go into more detail on the HD DVD and Blue Ray disc format wars for your liking. Obviously you are far better than I.
I was very tired when I posted. If you are going to judge me on one of my 70+ posts which are accurate, then deal with it.
Sorry if I am coming off as an a_ _ Hole, but both of your "putting me straight" attitudes was a bit uncalled for. And yes, I am a home theater installer, and do a damn good job at it.
One mistake... good grief.
Be careful, don't make any mistakes in your posts or someone may return the favor!
Shawn
Don't be so touchy...
by terrmul - 8/3/05 11:57 PM In reply to: I am standing before the firing SQUAD! by slmosquedaHey Shawn, no one is ragging on you but your mistake needed to be corrected.
And not to get petty but your correction is also incorrect. 480i is SDTV not EDTV. 480p is EDTV. Your statement "EDTV with a standard DVD player will project a cleaner image than a HDTV 1080i resolution at 720p" is just gibberish, there are no qualifiers here. If there is a point to this please make it succinctly.
You claim you are a professional and part of being a professional is communicating effectively. You are not doing that despite what I'm sure are your best intentions.
Your 70+ posts don't make you an expert. 70+ posts merely make someone with time on their hands. What makes you a pro is the content of your posts and I've read some of yours and there's good info in there which is why people tune into this forum. You are without a doubt a valuable member of the forum but....
Instead of getting upset because someone corrected you, think about how you posting when tired affects your potential clients opinion of your abilities.
There are no Lords here nor firing squads and I'm sure that you are a damn good installer, but you can't have been in the game that long and have such a thin skin. Remember that this is a typed forum where inflection, innuendo and sarcasm can all be misinterpreted, don't take it so seriously and above all....
Reelaaaax and have a jam sandwich...
Terry
CEO/Owner
Beyond Home Theater
www.beyondhometheater.com
That's cool...
by slmosqueda - 8/4/05 12:26 AM In reply to: Don't be so touchy... by terrmulHey Terry,
It has been one of those days and I always try to provide accurate solid info to those on this forum. I slipped up on this one post and it felt like yourself and the next guy was just ripping into me, especially the "and this guy is a installer" remark irritated me. I mean, to judge my capabilities based on this one post (not you but this other guy).
Yes you are right, 480i is SDTV, 4:3, 1.33 quality, but the EDTV is backward compatible to that degree. That is why I lumped it into EDTV, but SDTV could not be lumped into EDTV. However, some of the higher quality displays at 1080i/p will require a upconverter/scaler and therefore I would not lump the lower resolutions in with them.
I have no problem being corrected, as we all make mistakes or misinterpret what is written down vs what was intended when written. For some of us, this is common knowledge and sometimes is not communicated well enough. I simply made a mistake. Thank you for clarifying that as I may not have come back to catch the error.
Unfortunatly, I do take it serious. Probably more than I should. I get irritated everytime I see a new home being constructed and being wired incorrectly (daisy chaining, no speaker wire, etc..) because I know that the new owners have no clue until later on when they want something installed and are hit with a $2-5000 or more bill.
Anyway. I've got to get back to work.
Sorry. My apoligies for lashing out. Again, thank you for taking the time to respond.
Take Care,
Shawn Mosqueda
WireSmart LLC
480i and Progressive Scan DVD Payers.
by jrober08 - 8/4/05 1:25 AM In reply to: That's cool... by slmosquedaI asked Sony if my TV was Progressive Scan capable. They responded that it was capable of 480i only. Does that make any since to you? By that I mean do you think that means yes or no. My DVD player and TV both have component connections. Thanks for any insight.
480i
by slmosqueda - 8/4/05 5:42 AM In reply to: 480i and Progressive Scan DVD Payers. by jrober08Hello,
Without knowing the model numbers of the TV and DVD player, what Sony is saying is that the TV is only capable of 480i "interlaced" or your traditional TV.
I don't believe having a component video connection is what makes a progressive scan component DVD or Display. If you would provide the model numbers I can tell you.
Take Care,
Shawn Mosqueda
WireSmart LLC
shawn@wiresmart.com
480i
by jrober08 - 8/4/05 11:58 AM In reply to: 480i by slmosquedaThank you for replying. My TV is a Sony Model KV-32FV00. and the DVD is part of my Samsung DT-DB390 home theater in a box set. The message from Sony was:
"The Sony KV-32FV300 Television is capable of displaying only 480i signals through the component video connections when connected to the DVD player".
Thanks again.
After looking at the manual...
by slmosqueda - 8/4/05 1:16 PM In reply to: 480i by jrober08Hello,
Looks to me like you are going to have a very clean 480i NTSC standard tv picture. The component video cables are superior to s-video and composite for sure.
Until HD is everywhere and unavoidable, this set will be satisfactory compared to others that only have coax, composite and maybe s-video interfaces.
Take Care,
Shawn Mosqueda
WireSmart LLC.
shawn@wiresmart.com
Terry just shelve your BS
by TrumanII - 9/4/05 1:10 PM In reply to: Don't be so touchy... by terrmulTerry who needs your BS, and just move on....you are infantile big mouth who MUST BE HEARD, go into the BLOGS, just a simple forum for people looking for information, not bashing politics. The guy is fine and you are ....caffeinated??
The other guy...
by Allin4greeN - 8/4/05 3:47 PM In reply to: I am standing before the firing SQUAD! by slmosquedawas visiting this forum for the very first time. I came here seeking information and discussion. It just so happened that yours was the first thread I visited. Given that you advertise yourself as a professional installer my first impression was that joining this forum was a mistake. My response was a knee-jerk reaction, uncalled for, and certainly over the top. For that I apologize.
I am a consultant in a different field of work. The advice and information I give to my clients has serious consequences over both the short and long term. I hope that you can see where I am coming from on this and understand that when people place their confidence in the information you provide as a professional, you have a great responsibility.
Anyway, with the HD-DVD and Blu Ray "war" raging on, there are certainly other battles more worthy of discussion. Peace.
Thank you...
by slmosqueda - 8/4/05 10:28 PM In reply to: The other guy... by Allin4greeNHello,
I apologize as well for lashing out. I normally don't make those kinds of simple mistakes, but this time I should have said nothing and waited till I was at 100% before providing information.
Like yourself, I am very dedicated and serious about my work and consulting. I usually spend anywhere from 30min to 2 1/2 hrs researching questions for the forum members just to make sure I am dead on and not going to give misinformation which will cause them more problems. I even go as far as contact the cable services providers of the individual I am responding to making sure I understand the specific receiver they may have a question about.
Again, I don't normally throw out info like the first post you read and when I am barely functioning.
So I too apologize for responding when I really should have been quite till I had the time to research (if necessary) and post appropriately.
Thank you for responding and I hope you enjoy the interaction on the forum.
Take Care,
Shawn Mosqueda
WireSmart LLC.
shawn@wiresmart.com
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