Community Newsletter: Q&A: 7/29/05 Is it OK to run more than one antivirus utility?
- 7/28/05 4:16 PM
To Eddyb re: AV
by winter - 8/2/05 4:22 AM In reply to: Multiple real-time protection apps OK, AV and Spyware. by eddybYou seem to have things in order on your computer. I have Window XP Pro. With 160 GB Memory. Going down to 124.00 MB. And, still have some things to get moving on.
I was given the Norton Internet Security which includes Norton AV, Personal Firewall, Privacy Control, AntiSpam and Parental Control. The last I didn't need?
However, I went back to the Norton SystemWorks as I do like the Web Clean-Up, Clean Sweeper and One Buton Scan along with AV, Norton Untilities, GoBack (which if you are not careful can be a problem) Ckeck-It Diagnostics & System Optimizer. Again, I don't really know if I need all at the end of this paragraph.
With all of the above and with System Works by Norton I still had to purchase the Norton Firewall.
Then, SpySubstract which then took me to PC Tools for Spy Problems, if they were there. Then a Registry Scan to boot. Then, a another program that I became aware of was to remove Adaware, asumming I want it???
You mentioned Trojans; if I have them I wouldn't know. When I do a AV Scan, things seem to be fine. I hope.
With all of the above, I receieved an email from someone who gave me adaware. NORTON will do their scan and when they see the adaware, they will tell you that you have a non-virual threat. At that point, they leave it up to you to get rid of it.
I did find that a bit strange, but didn't really have a choice in the matter.
Any input you may have will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Winter
Re Winter
by eddyb - 8/3/05 7:33 AM In reply to: To Eddyb re: AV by winterHi Winter,
You might want to install Spybot or Microsoft's AntiSpyware application on your system. Either of these should run with Norton. To be on the safe side you install either of the above apps what you could do is turn off Norton's real-time protection then perform a scan from the other apps. Let them detect and attempt to clean the mallware off your PC. In some cases these things can be very nasty and you'll have research them (Google) and download multiple apps to clean them off your system.
When your all done make sure you re-enable the Norton real-time protection.
Is it OK to run more than one antivirus? how about in 2 OS?
by papajulz - 7/29/05 7:05 AM In reply to: 7/29/05 Is it OK to run more than one antivirus utility? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I now understand that is not good to have 2 antivirus. BUt how about in a partition harddrive with 2 operation system? is it ok to have defferent antivirus for every operating system... thanks.
AVG and free antivirus
by pmeador - 7/29/05 7:23 AM In reply to: 7/29/05 Is it OK to run more than one antivirus utility? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I used AVG for a couple of years and was really impressed with it until a friend's pc came in for repair and I not only found a virus on her pc (she ran AVG free) but my network became infected when I hooked it up as a result. I have always been a nut about keeping definitions updated, and not only enable auto update, but will do so manually at least once a week in addition, so this was not the problem. I hate the fact that Norton's is such a resource hog, but it's kept my family network safe since I switched a couple of years ago.
You want an antivirus to protect you against viruses...and one strike you're out in this house, free or not!
Why I recommend AVG
by crescentdave - 7/29/05 10:31 AM In reply to: AVG and free antivirus by pmeadorI've seen too many machines afflicted with trojan horses that Norton, for whatever reason, has been unable to detect and/or remove.
Generally speaking, I am also offended by Norton's kludged installation procedure, the number of processes involved and the pains it takes to uninstall the program.
Better still
by Xerp - 7/29/05 7:25 AM In reply to: 7/29/05 Is it OK to run more than one antivirus utility? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Even better than running all this anti-virus software, and anti-spyware, anti-adware, etc, etc is to take a step back and realise where the actual problems are.
Why have all your system resources devoted to 3rd party applications just to keep your OS running? There are many alternative operating systems out there with proven track records in security. Some of them, such as the Open Source operating system, Linux, are even free!
Maybe some of your friends are already running these modern-day operating systems, such as Mac OS X? You'll be amazed to discover they have no virus worries and can just concentrate on the things they are meant to be doing - rather than worrying about daily virus infestation.
Better Still for whom?
by lugo02 - 7/29/05 8:58 AM In reply to: Better still by XerpSuch a typical response from the MS haters.
Can I play my games on these alternative operating systems? I've tried Linux and the MAC but whileeach have there merit they could never replace my windows desktop. I still can't get my wireless card to work on Linux, not a problem in windows.
There are Viruses for other OS's
by r_rayjr - 7/30/05 5:46 AM In reply to: Better still by XerpI do not know why people do not think that there are Viruses out there for other OS's, THERE ARE. It is just that Microsoft's is so widely used that you hear more about the problems with Microsoft stuff. I have never had a problem. I used window 95 and prier when I was in the Navy. And I used Window 98 when I got out and got my own computer. And when I bought a second computer about 2 years ago it came with Window XP. Just like the users of Foxfire browser, I hear everyone say there are not any problems with Foxfire that it does not have BUGS. Why were they on the news several times over the last 3 or 4 months saying that new patches were out for bugs found in firefox? I use explorer and have never had any problems. I use windows and I get all the up dates that I know some people do not get, because they say that it really screws up your computer. I have never had problem with updating windows or any other Microsoft program. I also use Norton program, Systemworks and firewall. And I have only had one problem with Norton, and it was not recourses. It had to do with the program not working in the guest login recently. For the last 2 years that I have had my current computer with Norton on it, the firewall and Systemworks had always worked except last month when my computer got a new virus that did not have a Definition for. I got this virus 2 days before the new Definition was released for LiveUpdate.
So with all this stuff about no viruses for other OS's or Norton using too many recourses, that is all BULL. The last time a Antivirus forum talked about no viruses for other OS's I went to Norton's website looked up several Viruses to see what OS's they affected. And I listed several of those viruses. I know I listed at least 4 and there may have been more, I did not look thru the entire list of viruses. First I looked up name for some of the OS's, like MAC. There are at least 2 viruses with the MAC or MC in the name that are for mac's OS. So do not be fooled thinking that if you change your OS to something other than Windows that you can not or will not get a viruses. There are some out there. I am not the smarted person in the world, but from what I learned while I was working on my Associates of Science degree in Electronic Engineering Technology, and now that I am working on my Bachelors of Science degree in Electronics and Communications Engineering Technology. I am pretty good at keeping my computer running in tip-top shape. And they did not teach how to do that at any of the schools I have been to. I have never had problems with explorer, Window, or any other Microsoft program. And other than what I learned on my own or from college just playing around with the computer, I have other training to do this. In fact right now I am an Unemployed Disabled Veteran. Who is going to school hoping to get a degree good enough to get a good job. Because right now, no one with hire me because of my back, which I hurt and had to have surgery on during my 11 years in the Navy.
Alternate O/Ses
by OmegaGeek - 8/11/05 6:41 AM In reply to: Better still by XerpGive me a break. You choose an O/S and hardware that best supports the application software that you will run. Sometimes I think we loose track of the real purpose of a computer: to run applications. You know, stuff like word processors, databases, e-mail, and 'net research. No one platform supports everything the best. You don't pour a fondation and then hire an architect to design a house to fit it.
amen to that!
by bendis - 8/16/05 10:40 PM In reply to: Alternate O/Ses by OmegaGeekThank you for your post! It was a fresh breath of air after I read some of the garbage posted in here...
baloney!
by bendis - 8/16/05 10:34 PM In reply to: Better still by Xerpyour post should have been removed from here as it is way off topic AND stupid to boot.
you may go now.
Two antivirus - works for me!
by zole - 7/29/05 7:29 AM In reply to: 7/29/05 Is it OK to run more than one antivirus utility? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I've been running two antivirus programs, Norton and AVG simultaneously on two computers for well over a year. I have had no issues, both computers are fast with no noticeable degradation with one or two antivirus programs running.
Yes, it is OK to run two or more AV programs.
by zepper - 7/29/05 7:32 AM In reply to: 7/29/05 Is it OK to run more than one antivirus utility? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
All you need to do is be sure you are only running the real-time (aka "Memory Resident") part(s) of one of them. The way to do it is to install one then and disable it's memory resident portion(s) so that it won't automatically re-start on reboot. If the AV program can't have it's real-time portion(s) disabled permanently, then you don't want it anyway. Then you install the second one, disable the real time, etc. You can have as many as you want.
. Once you have them installed all with their real-time portions disabled, enable the ONE real-time portion you want to use.
. I think that like with Anti-spyware, you can't really get by with just one.
.bh.
Re: Anti Virus Software Macintosh
by franksfarm - 7/29/05 7:37 AM In reply to: 7/29/05 Is it OK to run more than one antivirus utility? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Just a general comment.
It would be nice if answers to questions would include a Mac answer as well.
Too often replies are PC,Windows only responses. Thanks for consideration. Frank
Virus Software + Pest Patrol
by Armand Alciatore - 7/29/05 7:55 AM In reply to: 7/29/05 Is it OK to run more than one antivirus utility? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am experiencing the slow machine problem however I generally feel like it comes from programs being installed on my machine without my permission. I run McAfee and PestStop simultaneously.
Is there a single program that will prevent viruses and these other memory thieves?
I likes pestPatrol in the beginning but now that it has been bought by CA, I get the feeling it will deteriorate. Is there a better product?
When I open my task manager, there are lots of processes open that I have no clue what they are, whether I can remove them, and how to remove them. Has someone solved this problem.
I call the overall problem MS Arthritus. This is a general deterioration of the system to the point that you simply reformat and start over.
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