Community weekly poll: What is the biggest threat to safe driving?
- 8/1/05 5:10 PM
LOL at the meds
by comicfan - 12/5/05 10:01 PM In reply to: Reply to Wrong Slant by JohnnyreI have people get mad at me because I won't take anything besides a motrin if my back is locked up. As bad as my wife is, she refuses medication also for everyday pains. People say, "that's nuts, that's crazy." well I see what meds can do to people. Then people wonder why I have such a high pain tolerance and don't get sick. There are 3 neighbors next to me who are addicted to Vicodin. One got help, one goes door to door asking for it , the other who knows. Give me good old coffee and I can handle the rest. And to anyone who says, "caffine is a drug" if you over do anything it's not good for you, not even water. If the whiners ever started on my coffee, I would probably march in washington against it lol. That is the one thing I can't go without. And if they try to ban it, I move to Columbia and sit on a donkey with Juan and drink coffee, that simple.
Paul
Question for you also...
by comicfan - 12/1/05 10:56 PM In reply to: question for you... by photoxprtIf you are so smart, how come you replied to my post instead of the correct one? You know something, medical researchers are blowing more smoke than smokers. You say people live longer now, yet I see people dropping like flies at early ages. My wife doesn't smoke yet she is 30 and has cancer. She first got cancer at 16. My grandma smoked all her life and only lived, now get this, only until 86 years old. My grandfather, smoked , 89 years old when he died. I have lost two friends to cancer, 34 years old and 39. 3 of my wifes uncles died from cancer , in their 40's and 50's, one smoked. My neice is now 15 and has uterin cancer. I have seen more older generations watch their children die. Yet, the older generations drank, smoked, ate bacon, fresh milk from cows, eggs, etc...I have been to the cancer care ward at our hospital and there are kids,babies, with cancer. I suppose they all lit up too huh? My personal belief, nuclear testing, crap put in our foods, dietary sweeteners that consist of known cancer causing substances, tanning beds, microwaves, car exhaust, rocket fuel, airplanes, poluted drinking water, poluted air, the list goes on. See it's ok for those on diets, it's healthy to put artificial sweeteners in our food that cause cancer, this is acceptable. Tanning beds are ok, they make you look good until your freakin skin falls off. Transportation, the number 1 cause of pollution and lung cancer, want to argue that one? Get out of your car then and walk to work on a -20 degree wintery day, bet you won't. And you like all the others like to blame smokers, why? Because it has no real benefits to speak of. And number 1 reason? MONEY, after any anti anything, prices can be raised and no one will say a damn thing about it! In michigan our supposed cig tax all go to our schools. I had a teacher tell my son to tell me I should quit smoking, when I saw her she brought this up. I told her I was supporting our schools and she shut up. Keep in mind, I smoke only outside from my house and air out before going in. I don't subject my family to this. Also there was that crap argument about (it stays on your clothes) if they are that freakin toxic they should be quarantined! First we take away discipline from parents, have a generation of kids that don't give a crap except for themselves, they grow up, believe everything they are told by politicians and people like you, no common sense or caring or understanding about rights and all the poor souls who died for them. I didn't fight in a war, but still I respect every damn one of the soldiers who did and the ones who gave their lives for us. Now we have many brain washed do gooders who feel they actually make this world a better place by taking away yet another right. I am not a person who likes or wallows in conflict, but I would like for once to tell medical researches who try to sway people into believing whatever we are told, to (medically speaking) insert between gluteus maximus it into the colon, where there is lack of air, and the very star that warms our earth cannot reach.
But, being the nice person I am, I won't. 
so you have a wonderful day.
Paul
WHOA!!!
by photoxprt - 12/4/05 12:55 PM In reply to: Question for you also... by comicfanWho lit your fuse? First of all, I am an independent researcher looking for facts.
I got NO axes to grind, except the ones you seem to be furiously honing up. Only I have medical expertise, and I'm looking to slap some of these so called "studies" in the face.
I get my facts where I can get them, trying to be CERTAIN that they're facts! Look at the thread and my answer, and you'll see we're on the same side of the fence!I also happen to agree with you on most of your rants, only I'm trying to do it without such a knee-jerk reaction; and make people use their brains more than their emotions.
I had a statistics professor that could 'prove' that wheat growth habits in Kansas affected sunspot activity. Now THAT'S scary ****, dude!
There are still some of us with a functioning brain.
Hokay?
Bill
BTW....sorry to hear about your wife. Bummer. What kind of cancer? Prognosis?
My bad...
by comicfan - 12/4/05 10:30 PM In reply to: WHOA!!! by photoxprtI assumed "which I usually know better" that you were questioning the study and his telling the truth. It somewhat came off that way. There are so many anti smokers out to kick you down these days it's easy to get offended. I don't usually get this upset in posts but reading so many ignorant comments...what the hell is wrong with this world? Blame handicap, smokers, old people, phones etc...How can people be so quick to put the blame on something other than their own driving or just being a bad driver, you know?
When I hear , medical research, you have to admit, that doesn't ring a trusting bell in many ears. I do apologize though and let's get started on a different note here.
My wife has uterin (if spelled right) cancer, spinal compression from neck down, torn shoulder, among other things and she is only 30.
Not to ramble but I want to give a personal example of why I get so defensive about people judging others for things and putting blame and having so much ignorance...Both my wife and I came from extremely abusive homes, had nothing, stabbed by my own father,beaten,etc...the old story. Anyway, we got together, her 16 me 18 and had our first child,a year and a half later, which both of us vowed not to drink or do drugs and make a different life for our kids, to break the chain handed down by the families. She got cancer right after, we had been kicked out of our home\rental so the guy\owner could move in with his girlfriend. We had no money, and were homeless. Years later we ended up buying a home, going good until I found out I have a bad back which is going to paralize me eventually, my wife and I had our gallbladders out within two years of eachother, my son had a tumor in between this, my younger boy had a possiblility of needing brain surgery, my older son has chronic athsma, allergies, etc..and was hospitalized for over a year.My wife got hurt on her job 2 years after me. I wanted to go to college to learn the pc trade to make a living for my family, construction was no longer an option. My daughter was born 8 months ago and stopped breathing, she was on monitors etc..while my wife's c section ended up going bad, she had major clotting through the whole area and almost died three days later. They had to rip her staples out without pain medication and her stomach had to remain open for over 6 months as they packed it with gauze until it healed. After my daughter got better she began having major acid reflux trouble and wouldn't sleep and was on medication for this. My knees are now bad due to artharitis along with my back. We are losing our home from lack of funds from medical bills etc...in the shape we are in, there is no help and I am still trying to get a job,go to college, and so is she. The school tried pressing truency charges on us even though my son was in intensive care at the hospital, we had many pissed off doctors on that one. My son got beaten by 7 little jerks at school and nothing was done. There are no jobs where we live and can't make ends meet. I am also losing my internet in a month. This believe it or not isn't even an ounce of things that have happened to us, not even close.
My point? We are simply happy people through all of this and have three polite, hard working children\save the 8 month old, but they are wonderful kids and people love them also. We still give what we can whenever we can and help anyone in need. We are poor but we are clean people, i find no excuse not to be. We are always being put down for being poor and discriminated against.
Yet we have never ever, hurt anyone, poked our noses in anyone's business, never stole anything in our life, if we see someone drop money we tell them, not keep it. We enjoy our time with our children, they are the no.1 most important things in our life. We will still have a wonderful holiday even without presents and crap, we have eachother. My kids understand that their xmas wish was that we are all together on the holidays.
So when I hear our spoiled rotten , do goody society complain, and cry because they are not happy, and can point a finger at those they feel are lower, and this shows with the driving issue....it ticks me off. Don't blame me, not my fault, smokers, cell phones, etc...yikes. I simply think that most should treasure the people in their lives, be respectful to others, and not cause such a rucus if something doesn't go their way. My family and I always respect others and remain good people (at least try our best). Why can't others do the same?
Take care, Paul
That's why
by photoxprt - 12/7/05 2:22 PM In reply to: My bad... by comicfanI try REALLY, really hard NOT to make assumptions.
Sounds like you folks have been through the wringer a couple of times, and getting ready to going through again. And, sorry, no, that's 'uterine' cancer. Bum rap, there.
It sounds like you've gotten the worst of the worst possible medical care possible, and that truly bites.....big time. I'm not going to try and tell you what to do....especiallly not knowing your circumstances. Me, I have a very low threshold of pain and am still suffering 3 years after a bad closing procedure in a triple bypass.
But you can't afford NOT to accept help.... not with your kids and all. But at the same time....you can't afford to surrender all control of you and your families' life. THEN. they have you by the short curlies.
The way I got it was this...prioritize! What's MOST important? For me, it was home. ALWAUS pay for your place to live FIRST! After that, EVERYthing else is secondary! Hopefully, you live somewhere there are outreach programsto help you with some those secondaries.(There are some places that will help with the primary).
But, like I said, I am NOT going to try to tell you how to run your life. You sound moderately intelligent (your spelling/ vocabulary skills could use some work- no offense meant). But of the many things I do, most of them are self-taught, and I NEVER stop asking questions! And I ALWAYS question 'authority'.
It's ALWAYS easier to blame someone else for your problems! So people do. The smart ones learn to be resposible for what they are responsible for; and not take the flak for what they are NOT!
Don't pass me off for"Ahh, what does HE know...?" I've raised 3 boys that're on their own. My wife ditched me because I'M permanently disabled; you don't EVEN want to hear MY shopping list of disablements. So, I have been there and back, got the t-shirt AND scars and I'm trying to make the best of my life before the last grain of sand hits the bottom of the hourglass.
But I know for a gold plated FACT that the numbers are wrong for smoking; and second-hand smoke.SO, right now, I do what I'm really good at: medical research and writing.
But, bad drivers are a pet peeve of mine, and all the 911 operators in the metro Atlanta area know me.'Cause I call 'em ALL in, y,know? Lane jumpers and singleton drivers for the HOV lanes. Big rigs in improper lanes (NO....you guys DON'T own the road)
So, that's why I'm here, and that's why the question about the smoking study.
So,Paul, don't let the bahstids wear you down.
As for the rest of you:
'If you're not a part of rhe solution,
then you're just another part of the problem.'
May Peace, happiness and loving kindness find you all this Christmas Season. Even if you're not religious, or have the same tastes in God. (I think you folks that DON"T believe are in for a rough time)(Different discussion)
Bill
LOL yes , a rough time...
by comicfan - 12/8/05 1:02 AM In reply to: That's why by photoxprtI agree with you on that. Actually my spelling and grammar are usually very good. When I get frustrated, I start typing away without a second thought. My fingers are going like Bruce Almighty answering prayers. And believe it or not, I have a couple of books written. Not that I have the cash to get them published but hey. That's why I don't like to get mad, most do not sound intelligent when they are mad, and in most cases, aren't. That does pertain to drivers also.
Any way, here's a tidbit for you, I have smoked since I was 14 years of age, I just had a checkup a couple of months ago and my oxygen level is higher than most non-smokers. 99%, very good. I am 34 so have smoked for 20 years now and have done so longer than I haven't by 6. I haven't killed anyone with my cigaretts, or driving with one. Of course, I am a curtious smoker. If someone doesn't like it, I won't do it. It's funny, of all the people I have talked to in all my current years, not all agreed with smoking but the ones who didn't still felt they shouldn't judge. Yet on TV, there are commercials etc...just flashing away. Brainwashed by the Boobtube yet again. Hey , that will be my next book, Brainwashed By The Boobtube!
lol yeah right.
Happy Holidays! Paul
God Bless you Paul
by Johnnyre - 12/8/05 5:09 PM In reply to: My bad... by comicfanGod Bless you Paul, and your entire family. We need more people like you in this world. The description you give is the way most of older folks were brought up, respect others and take responsibility for your actions. I wish you all the best and will say a prayer for you all. God loves people like you, so do we. Happy Holidays!
Thank you, you also.
by comicfan - 12/9/05 8:25 AM In reply to: God Bless you Paul by JohnnyreI grew up mostly with my grandparents and remember their friends. There was a sense of respect and kindness you don't see anymore. I hear often,"you're only 34 for pete sake, you don't know about the old days." This may be true but growing up with people who were, clues you in on it. The old argument, that was then. Well, just because we have higher technology, never meant it came with a rule that respect had to be lost along the way. I see people who used to be decent, knew them all my life, suddenly becoming cold hearted in their ways, caving in to a cancerous society. It is sad to say the least. I always say, when I die, all I can take with me is the kind of person I was. Money won't buy a pass through those gates.
You take care, thank you for the wonderful comment, god bless. Paul
Biggest Threat to Safe Driving
by tenryuu - 8/2/05 1:47 PM In reply to: What is the biggest threat to safe driving? by Marc Bennett
IMNHO the biggest threat to safe driving falls into three categories: 1) Underskilled drivers (regardless of age); 2) People who think driving is an "option" to getting dressed/made-up in the morning; and 3) crowded roads that exacerbate problems #1 and #2.
People may want to blame cell phones or stereos or whatever the latest gadget to come down the pike may be for the problems of drivers. But, in the final analysis, there's no substitute for CONCENTRATION. When you are in a car driving your entire focus should be on the task of greatest importance -- DRIVING.
Unfortunately, with the cut backs both in secondary education budgets and family budgets the kind of in-the-class and behind-the-wheel driver's education *I* got when I was a teenager has become a thing of the past. Call it "unfair" but this has led to many jurisdictions calling for restrictions on "new" drivers (i.e., teen drivers). To be honest, while I remember how excited I was to drive by myself for the first time, I also see a real need for these kinds of restrictions. It's difficult to keep focused when you've been driving for the 30+ years that I have; when you've only been driving for a couple of weeks or months it nearly impossible.
Throw on top of that the individuals that decide to put on makeup or clothes while driving and you have a situation that has far more potential for disaster than someone talking on a cell phone. Yes, many people lead lives where there's not a lot of free time, but surely you can allot a couple of extra minutes in the morning to put on your mascara when you're NOT behind the wheel.
Those are the ones *I* avoid more than the ones talking on their cells....
Leigh Smith
The problem is not devices
by cadavatar - 8/2/05 1:50 PM In reply to: What is the biggest threat to safe driving? by Marc Bennett
Cell phones, stereos, whatever. It all falls under "distracted driving" as a citation.
How long will they go on piling unnecessary laws
into the books? They probably will never come around.
It all boils down to the driver. Whether talking about guns, cell phones in cars, etc. It boils down
to the HUMAN element. New devices will keep coming.
Stuff we can't conceive of right now. New distractions.
The choice on how to make safe use of technology is the responsibility of the DRIVER. It's kind of funny that I'm professing what has been a hallmark of Republican philosophy for many years, but many republicans are taking part of this deluge of needless laws, removing responsibility and complicating government. The irony is that I'm anything but republican.
So there you have it. A little interjection of common sense.
you're right...
by photoxprt - 5/11/06 7:52 PM In reply to: The problem is not devices by cadavatarbut look at the laws 'for own good' now showing up. California---no smoking on public beaches. Why? -too many 'butts'; nevermind that 98% come from the sewage dumped into the ocean. There was no popular vote there.
Rhode Island- they want to make illegal you smoking in your own car. No vote there, either.
Georgia- last year the state government passed a law (without a vote and against much protest and much public outcry) making it 'illegal' to smoke in bars, restaurants etc,etc.
They are doing such a fine job of blowing smoke in OUR faces.and doing the "Big Lie" fandango.....we get caught up in this pis*y nonsense to keep us unaware of WHAT thry're doing!
Does anyone remember "Taxation without Representation"?
Who's 'Guarding the guardians'? Me...for one. What are YOU doing?
Bill
Bad drivers - simple
by eagleroc - 8/2/05 1:56 PM In reply to: What is the biggest threat to safe driving? by Marc Bennett
Why blame the device. Anyone is capable of being distracted by anything. How liberal it is to blame anything but the pilot. Want to talk on the phone, pull over. Want to change the radio stations but have no idea what button to push, pull over. Need to answer a text message, get off the road. Want to eat a burger, take a break - get off the road where the rest of us are driving.
Bad drivers are incapable of making good decisions. Be it a decision about not being distracted or not getting angry about the traffic or the mistake all the other imperfect people make.
How absurd to think that we can do more than one thing at a time. Wherever safety is a concern, take the course of action that abates disaster. Dropping a cell phone, missing a call, getting that pickle out of your burger, and many other irresponsible driving habits never killed anybody. People making poor choices did.
Any liberals out there who want to take away my ability to use peripherals as I drive, kiss my blackberry! Taking away the device does not ensure good driving. Teaching good habits and skills and holding people accoutable for their actions does.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
by rheeric - 8/2/05 2:02 PM In reply to: Bad drivers - simple by eaglerocThat is all true eagleroc. You hit the nail on the head. It has nothing to do with the devices, it has to do with the drivers decision.
Also, read your owners manual on your stereos if that is even a problem anywhere.
Cell phone users, if a necessity, get in car microphones and stereo disablers and headsets to avoid having to use your hands for anything other than driving!
A one word answer Stupidity
by msgale - 8/2/05 2:14 PM In reply to: Bad drivers - simple by eaglerocAlbert Einstein once said "Only two things are infinite: The Universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about The Universe." I think that says it all.
don't politicize the issue
by eulalia - 8/2/05 5:40 PM In reply to: Bad drivers - simple by eaglerocHey, I'm a liberal. I voted for Bad Drivers. I don't want to see cell phones or car stereos or anything like that banned any more than you do.
Just because I am a liberal doesn't mean my brain is dead or I can't think logically. It's the drivers making bad decisions and not the technology that causes accidents. I don't want to take away your blackberry. You can fiddle with your blackberry all you want in your car as far as I am concerned so long as your car is not moving. Just be quick about it so you're finished before the light turns green and your car starts moving if you're driving near me.
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