Storage: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system?
Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system?
by esemones - 7/19/05 3:12 PMMy new computer has a SATA Maxtor drive as the primary. Can I install my old Maxtor IDE drive without any conflicts or cable conflicts (even tho the later will have a flat cable)? [WindowsXP Prof, MSI MB K8N NEO4 Platinum mobo]
In theory, no problems.
by R. Proffitt
- 7/19/05 3:43 PM
In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system? by esemones
BUT BEWARE one thing. Some move a drive like that and hope the software keeps running (from the old drive). You can guess the result.
-> Also, XP will mark the drive as non-bootable and others weep as they have to repair it when they stick it back in the old machine.
Bob
I'll be wary
by esemones - 7/20/05 3:10 PM In reply to: In theory, no problems. by R. Proffitt
This second drive will only have data. I assume that its flat cable will fit into the regular IDE slot of the mobo, but won't be able to share the cable of the primary SATA drive.
By the way, what are the short pci express slots for? Thanks.
1. Should be an easy move.
by R. Proffitt - 7/20/05 3:19 PM
In reply to: I'll be wary by esemones
2. PCI Express slots are currently for video cards.
Bob
Mixing SATA and IDE drives
by Sheridan - 7/22/05 8:02 AM In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system? by esemonesThere should be no problem in connecting a SATA and IDE drive, although it would be best to install the SATA as the main drive. I am currently running a Maxtor 200GB SATA drive as the master and a Maxtor 120GB IDE drive as the slave. You must be sure to set the jumpers to master and slave, this should be identified by the diagram on the drive.
I am using the appropriate cables for each drive.
You will have to ensure your motherboard can accommodate and additional IDE drive, same as the CD/DVD Rom.
I hope this helps.
Mixing Drives
by kbennett50 - 7/23/05 2:08 PM In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives by SheridanI have a mobo that will accept both drives and I don't have to set any jumpers on the PATA drive and of course there are none to set on the SATA drives. I have a Gigabyte motherboard that will take 4 SATA drives, 2 PATA drives and 2 CD/DVD drives so I can use the PATA drives in a RAID Array as the mobo came with Intel software for this.
Should not be a problem
by xpostal - 7/22/05 8:49 AM In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system? by esemonesI have been running a SATA drive as my primary drive with OS and programs and 2 IDE drives for data storage. No problems in over a year of use. Just make sure your board will support both.
I've had this config. running on my machine for approx 2 yrs
by SlyRaskal - 7/22/05 10:00 AM In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system? by esemonesI've had this setup running on my machine for the last 2 years (approx) and haven't had any problems.
Windows manages the two hard drives separatly so you shouldn't have any problems.
I have my SATA drive setup as the primary because I bought a Wester Digital Raptor Drive (10K rpm) which is a bit faster than the normal SATA drives. and my standard ATA100 drive is a secondary. I installed Windows on the SATA drive.
I built this computer myself and haven't had any problems with this configuration.
It's all about the controllers
by DJPython - 7/22/05 12:53 PM In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system? by esemonesIDE and SATA drives use different controllers. You cannot mix the two on the same controller to my knowlege. I have an Intel motherboard with two built in IDE controllers and two built in SATA controllers. I'm running 4 IDE/ATAPI devices (160GB HD, 80GB HD, CD-RW Drive, and a DVD/CD-RW Drive) on my IDE controllers. I've had a 200GB SATA running off my separate SATA controller for three months now. No problem.
You won't have a problem. Your mobo sounds similiar to mine. You should have a spare IDE controller or at least a spare channel/port.
If your system didn't have any spare IDE ports, then you could buy a separate IDE/ATA/ATAPI controller card that plugs into an empty PCI slot. Same goes for SATA controllers.
I think some SATA drives have legacy IDE plugs on them, but I'd only use the SATA plug with the small serial cable.
It's about reading mobo doc and following instructions
by Doug_Hirschfeld - 7/28/05 6:10 PM In reply to: It's all about the controllers by DJPythonMost modern motherboards are equipped with connectivity for 2 sata drives and the usual IDE complement of room for 4 ide devices. Therefore most people can run 6 devices note that each sata connector MUST NOT be shared you may only connect 0 - 2 sata devices and 0 - 4 IDE devices.If you need more devices you can add more device controllers in a PCI slot and you can add data storage devices as USB devices, if you get crazy don't forget to upgrade your power supply. There are two things to keep in mind, do not overload your power supply or strange difficult problems will begin to occur and make the correct BIOS settings for your data storage device complement. I'm using an Asus P4P800-VM mobo and it requires an advanced (not for beginners says the user guide) BIOS setting to use both serial-ata and parallel-ata devices. Enhanced mode device support must be set on to use a mixed device configuration. My best advice is read your documentation if you don't understand it have your dealer help you and then do what it says, and really be certain to use an adequate power supply. I'm using 3 maxtor HD's 80 & 120 gb sata + 200 gb pata, and 3 dvd burners BENQ 1625, & 1610, + LG GSA 4163B. An ATI aiw 9600 video & Creative SB audio card + web cams and dual monitors + TV, Logitech thx 560 watt surround sound and serving a small lan and sharing my HP1210 PSC on the LAN. Oh yes and too many fans trust me about the power supply problems I'm removing some fans so I hope that I don't have to replace my power supply, mixing sata and pata is great otherwise.
New computers often handle this well
by jrfree - 7/22/05 1:42 PM In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system? by esemonesI have a newer computer with both SATA and IDE and have both a SATA and IDE drives and controllers - most newer boards with SATA will have 4 SATA connections and 1 or 2 IDE. Depending upon your bios and startup options, if it is like mine you have the option either within the bios, or at startup, which drive to choose as the primary. I have OS's on both drives and can boot from either by selecting which one I want to be the primary at startup(note this will have an effect on drive letters). When running more than one OS on multiple drives you can use this option, or if running a properly installed NT/2000/XP, you can add boot options into the boot.ini. There are a few additional considerations to take into account if you are running multiple SATA drives in a RAID array (like making sure all OS's are installed with RAID drivers) but this can be made to work as well.
It's fine
by ackmondual - 7/22/05 6:48 PM In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system? by esemonesAs long as your mobo supports both IDE and SATA and still has a connection for each, then you're fine. My primary was a SATA and 2nd hd bay was an IDE. My SATA conked out, and I wanted to get up and running right away, w/o buying an expensive SATA at a brick&mortar store nor wait 5 days for a it to ship in from online, so I just used my 2ndary IDE and swapped it to primary where my OS and other stuff is. I'll be having a SATA later on for my slave drive. It's better to have SATA for primary, but the speed wouldn't be a big difference
I have a problem with mine
by Laurenksmith - 7/23/05 6:11 AM In reply to: Mixing SATA and IDE drives in a system? by esemonesI have Windows 2000 with an AMD 2800 chip and
A7V8X mobo. I can boot off the SATA only if I have no IDE drives attached. There is no option on the mobo to boot from SATA. So I'm going to have to upgrade to be able to boot from SATA and add back all my IDE drives.
I haven't found an upgrade for the mobo so I can make the SATA (WD Raptor) my boot drive.
Any other ideas out there?
Thanks,
Laurie
IDE and Sata
by jackwei - 7/23/05 3:17 PM In reply to: I have a problem with mine by LaurenksmithSome Motherboards allow you to configure both an IDE drive and sata drives in a raid array.I don't use raid but the controllers can co-operate.
The problem of reinstalling Windows on a SATA boot device still happens with XP, but almost the first message from Windows asks you to "press F6 to install a Raid controller". But it only recognizes a floppy as the source for the SATA controller. So be sure you have the driver on a floppy and it should have come with your motherboard. That way it will recognize your Sata drives and install Windows on the drive you select to be the boot drive.
I would advise disabling IDE Hard Drives by temporarily removing their power connectors so you can't accidently make a mistake and boot from the IDE drive.
Same problem here...
by rmazzeo - 7/25/05 6:03 PM In reply to: I have a problem with mine by LaurenksmithHey Laurie,
Yours is the first post I've come across that describes (almost) the same problem I have. I just rebuilt my PC using an ASUS A7V880 Mobo, AMD AthlonXP 2800+ with 1Gb RAM. I can boot off of the SATA drive regardless, but the OS (WinXP Pro) will not see the IDE drive. It sees any other IDE drive attached, but not the HDD. I have tried setting it up as Master, Slave, Cable Select, Primary, Secondary...all to no avail. Did you ever find out what your possible problems could be? I can't get these 2 drives to coexist & am wondering what I am doing wrong. If you find out any good info, please let me know...thanx!
Regards,
Robert
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