Desktops: Best memory for the buck,
Best memory for the buck,
by thelisters - 5/22/05 4:04 AMHello fellow c/net-ters, I am one of the many people looking to upgrade my ram. I currently only have only 1 stick of 516m/b(pc2700) in a amd xp 2800 system w/ a 256/mb Fx5600 nividia graphics card on win xp. I am considering switching over to 1 gig of pc3200 is it a worthwile switch or should i just stick with the pc2700. I have heard that pc3200 was a more unstable ram then that of the 2700. I am not that new to this however i am a cheap ******* so anyone could give me an idea of what to buy so i don't waist time and money, i would be greatful. And i've looked at the all the different brands from what i have seen and read going with high end ram really only serves those who use the cpu for gaming. I use mine mostly internet and dvd backup 
Thanks...
Musing
by bob b - 5/22/05 1:26 PM In reply to: Best memory for the buck, by thelisters512@pc2700=40 bucks
512@pc3200=40 bucks
but you would need two of the pc3200 so 80 bucks.
Now the questions.
Will the mobo support pc3200?
Do you want to spend 80 bucks?
Is pc3200 faster?>yes
Will you see a diff?>hmmm.
512MB+XP+GP usage seems to be the sweet spot so if you go to 1GB will it be a plus? >unknown, try it.
Just an opinion.
I think that many folks can get as much extra perf out of the machine with some serious house cleaning as they will with making the machine bigger/more powerful.
I got a mb soyo kt600 v.1 that lets me change ram spd
by thelisters - 5/25/05 12:27 PM In reply to: Musing by bob bMy mother board allows me to change the speed and or over clock the ram or and cpu. I know there isn't much difference especially with such a lame amd chip, but it gets the job done. So thanks for your input i think i might as well just go for the faster cheeper pc3200 1gb on 82 bucks on zipzoomfly.com. thanks
re pc2700 or pc3200
by eightbalnut - 5/27/05 11:41 AM In reply to: Musing by bob bAnswer as to is it worth increasing mem for better faster and more stable performance is yes;as win xp ( esp. xp pro ) eats mem then upgrading your mem is far better and much cheaper than looking at buying faster!!! processor as its the mem that gives you the zoom zoom factor i run an AMD Athlon XP 4 processor with 1 mb of pc 2700 and trust me that makes a difference and not neccessary to use pc3200 to get that....Eightbalnut
really?
by brewdog - 5/27/05 12:00 PM In reply to: re pc2700 or pc3200 by eightbalnutYour'e running a computer with 1 MB of RAM?
1MB......., 1GB, whatever !!?
by davetron - 5/27/05 9:29 PM In reply to: really? by brewdogI hope that he meant 1 gig...although I remember the days of going to Sams Club and buying 4 250K sticks so we could get 1MB and thinking that was hot stuff !! I think that package deal cost $80 back then !!
re mem.
by eightbalnut - 5/30/05 4:49 PM In reply to: really? by brewdogA simple typo my man i run 1 GIGABYTE of memory ok
How much memory?
by rub - 5/28/05 12:22 PM In reply to: Musing by bob bI'm doing some very old photo scans and restores. I have to use hi-res scans to get anything to work with and I get very large files ( one came out at 462 Mb ) and the processing uses so much virtual memory, I'm spending 90% of my time at the 2nd PC, waiting for the 1st to finish. I have 512 Mb now which I'm doubling ( 1 Gb is max ) which I hope will make a real difference. If that doesn't work, I'll get a new PC with 2 Gb. I've got months of work ahead. I haven't seen any Whetstones( etc ) for graphics processing. Too bad. It's really needed.
wont matter
by simonxliu - 5/23/05 4:30 PM In reply to: Best memory for the buck, by thelistersIt won't matter if you get 2700 or 3200, your fsb is only at 333. If you have 2 sticks, both sticks will just run at 166. It would be best to just buy the cheapest ram with low latencies (2-2-2-5)
re:wont matter
by GMartin2R - 5/23/05 11:58 PM In reply to: wont matter by simonxliuwhere are you getting that the fsb is only 333? is that speed inherent to the cpu or soemthing?
GP answer
by bob b - 5/24/05 5:37 AM In reply to: re:wont matter by GMartin2RFSBx8=memory speed
So 333x8=2700 (rounded off)
Very confusing stuff.
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DDRxxx
so...
by GMartin2R - 5/25/05 12:25 AM In reply to: GP answer by bob bok so the FSB rating on the motherboards is simply what it's capable of or is there more that i'm not getting. i mean intel chipsets commonly have FSB of 533 to 800 mhz. so would one have to use pc4800 to get full useage of a chipset with an 800MHz FSB? and in my case i'm using pc3200 so is my FSB limited to 400MHz regardless of how i'm set up oterwise? i'm amd64 3200 with nforce4 Ultra btw.
Others
by bob b - 5/25/05 6:48 AM In reply to: so... by GMartin2Rget into that tech-no stuff, it gives me a headache trying to translate it into english.
So here's my cloudy view.
You have a machine with a 800mhz fsb(big pipe).
The big pipe connects to the memory controller.
You have one stick of pc3200 memory.
The memory controller creates a 400mhz bus(small pipe) to run that stick. (single channel mode)
Now let's say you have two sticks of pc3200 memory.
The memory controller creates two 400mhz buses (two small pipes) one for each stick. (Dual channel mode)
The one or two small pipes feed into the big pipe.
That's kind of a big picture that doesn't cover all the variables.
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