Community Newsletter: Q&A: 5/6/05 What's safe and legal to download using a file-sharing program?
- 5/12/05 2:39 PM
P2P suggestion
by cesareDH - 5/6/05 7:30 AM In reply to: Additional advice from our members (section 1) by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
After years of xperimenting with different P2P software, I've found ARES to be the best/safest. That's speaking for the program itself, not for the files you download. Those files are Russian roulette.
Areslite
by skippyd333 - 5/6/05 6:50 PM In reply to: P2P suggestion by cesareDHAreslite is spyware and ad free. All music and movies are without viruses. If looking for software just don't download a file that shows a question mark and it say software, NOT "OTHER". These are always viruses. A good rule is anytime you download anything. Make a folder to save it to, then scan the folder with your antivirus before opening.
Answer
by Mark2210 - 5/6/05 7:34 AM In reply to: Additional advice from our members (section 1) by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The long and short of it is. If you download a copyrighted file over a p2p network that you do not already own. Is not shareware or freeware authorised for p2p distribution. Or have express permission from the copyright owner to download over p2p then its probably illigal.
Dont use kazza though, it has loads of adware spyware that gose with it and can screw up your machine. kazza can also get you in trouble with the law. kazza users are traceable via kazza servers. This leaves its users vunerable when the RIAA wants to see whos got what on the kaza network.
The p2p popularity is the natural backlash for big business charging the public over inflated prices for media, (most of the traffic is for music and video files.) People realise the cost of cd or dvd disk is in pennys. the profits generated are huge for these companys when you consider the end retail price! The concept of free sharing is tempting to people, who in the past have copyed vinal onto tape for their mates or in the car, recorded a film from the tv onto video or tape recoded from the radio. The industry was caught out by technology on this one. Their responce? "digital rights manegement". Early forms where on cd's. they would not play in pcs and car stereos???!! The advent of legal dowload sites has now allowed the industry to cash in on the tecnology, They have been a bit slow to catch on in the first place!! The product is at a discount. In the uk downloads have overtaken shop sales for music!
The desision to dowload media is a thing for the concience. Is it ok to copy media for free from a p2p network? Or is it ok to charge £15.00 for a product that costs less than a penny to produce?
Ethical answer
by eric90230 - 5/7/05 1:51 PM In reply to: Answer by Mark2210>> The p2p popularity is the natural backlash for big business charging the public over inflated prices for media <<
Nonsense. “Over inflated prices”? Totally subjective, opinion, illegitimate excuse. If I think something is too expensive, it doesn’t mean it’s okay for me to steal it. And if I can’t afford to buy something, that doesn’t mean I deserve a free copy of it.
>> People realise the cost of cd or dvd disk is in pennys. <<
Oh, the old “cost determines price” theory. Wrong-o. Shall we determine the price of going to work (gasoline to drive there, wear and tear on the car and on clothes and on shoes, etc.), and then determine that wages “should” be a few pennies more than that? Nonsense again.
Nobody's perfect. I have downloaded music files in the past, but I never claimed it was ethical. Now I pay as go.
and thus you become sheep
by imkain - 3/17/06 8:54 AM In reply to: Ethical answer by eric90230People are worth more than companies wish to pay. Do you like just getting by, or would you like to keep 75% of your income and not have to spend the most of it on bills. You my friend have become a sheep of society. P2P is more of a rebellion than a immoral decision of stealing. It is the online communites way of telling big business that their time is up.
get real
by MichaelF - 3/17/06 6:30 PM In reply to: and thus you become sheep by imkainYour analogy has knobs on it. Nothing on peer to peer is a necessity, they are all luxury items. They are not regular bills that put a roof over your head or food in your mouth. You cannot use the 'I am starving because society is corrupt so it is ok to steal' argument.
All you are trying to do is to provide twisted pathetic justification for doing the wrong thing. Admit it and you will feel better for it.
Michael
nothing is wrong in my eyes
by imkain - 3/18/06 9:47 PM In reply to: get real by MichaelFYou see again you think I have morals...I don't....so when you can admit that there are more people like me in the world, than maybe you can sleep better at night. Unfortunately if you haven't noticed each generation after me could care less about this society and the people in it...they act similar to the baby boomers who are suffering middle aged burn out. 
. Just keep watching, because society is about to get worse when my generation becomes of presidential age 
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do you work for the riaa??
by Mark2210 - 1/8/07 12:21 AM In reply to: Ethical answer by eric90230do you work for the riaa??
answer to Tim M "human genome"
by jonah jones - 5/6/05 8:05 AM
In reply to: Additional advice from our members (section 1) by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Don't look for a paper on the human genome project on PtP
sequence and genome analysis
chromosome the genome project
mathamatics of the genome
hidden markov models
initial sequencing and analysis of
genetics genome intro
understanding the ...
unseen ge....
beyond the ge....
human genome and the creationist view
etc
etc
etc
etc.....
you were saying?...
,
But is it really human genome?
by tlmurray - 5/8/05 2:58 PM In reply to: answer to Tim M "human genome" by jonah jones
I get your point. But what percent of all traffic is not movies, music, porn, or nefarious material; and, what does the novice do who sees an .exe file that is supposed to open in to a DNA screensaver? Download it and hope the antivirus software works?
My point still stands: Don't -- meaning, it is not smart -- to look for academic material on PtP.
stop using p2p...
by elmuchachos - 5/6/05 11:36 AM In reply to: Additional advice from our members (section 1) by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I used to use kazaa and kazaa lite for years...no matter how safe you are...there are still tons of programs and viruses that get on the computer...I have since stopped using kazaa and I reformatted the entire main hd to clear everything and start over...I now use news servers to dl anything I am looking for...maybe you should look into that idea because it is safe and all the legalities...I have been using it for some time now and I am virus and adware free....
news servers
by Jsmith36991 - 5/6/05 8:08 PM In reply to: stop using p2p... by elmuchachoshow can I do that, can you walk me through it?
P2P question
by sb909s - 5/8/05 2:02 PM In reply to: stop using p2p... by elmuchachosI was just wondering if anyone has any SAFE suggestions as to website to download music..I understand that P2P is unsafe so what are my other options?
help with news servers
by magogami - 10/7/06 6:57 PM In reply to: stop using p2p... by elmuchachoshow do you download things through the news servers you were talking about?
Don't do it
by ski-the-edge - 5/6/05 12:30 PM In reply to: Additional advice from our members (section 1) by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I owned a computer support biz for quite a few years. The most messed up computers I ever dealt with had been hosed by KaZAA. There are plenty of comments to this effect, so I won't expain what happened. I will say that it was often cheaper to replace than fix them. Also, you are stealing from the artist. If you don't like the price of their music, don't buy it. But don't steal it; it's just plain wrong, get it? Besides, you may very likely wind up with a computer so trashed that you will have to replace it and if you try and copy the data from the old one, you'll destroy your new one.
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