Personally, I used to use a Compaq and a Yamaha computer. My Yamaha motherboard rocked except that I could not get to Pentium 1. Now I am using a Dell 4700 and it rocks, have not crashed it once. I installed new hardware and it was no problem. I got a base tower and installed my own hardware and had no problems. Alienware is awesome, but is way too expensive. Same with Falcon. But they offer limited upgrade as far as changing the system settings. Personally, I wish I could keep the system and get Win98 second for the operating system. As far as the graphics, dvd's play awesome. Apple has editting software, but I swear by my Dell. You base line it and you get someone who knows systems to work the upgrades, you could get a P4 for about $600 with the basics.
JDM
So if I want to build my own PC what would you recommend from Tiger or other besides Enermax case.
Can I get a parts list?
As low end machines go, you really can't beat an Emachines. After being a die-hard BYO user/builder for years, when both of my computers were stolen and I needed a replacement rig in less than 24 hours, I bought one for what I thought would be a temporary solution. Needless to say, one year has passed and the Emachines is my primary network hub/general use computer. Here is what impressed me about them:
1. Quality off the shelf parts. The mobo is N-force based and the HD is a Western Digital.
2. Adequate RAM. Came with 512mb DDR
3. Respectable documentation. In addition to the quick start manuals that come with every rig, they included a manual for the mobo for both troubleshooting and expansion options.
4. Software suite. The hardcore wont use it, but for people who dont really know what they are doing, the starting software package can help them out even with their computer problems. They include something called "Big Fix" which notifies you if you have gone too long without a defrag or other maintenance tweaks and how to do such. Additionally, the standards such as MSWorks and Money along with Roxio are included.
Another company that I recommend is PCClub. If anything, it is not for their prices. It is because of their service. When I found on a more recent rig that I bought from another vendor, that they forgot to include the O/S disks, I went to them (PCClub) and asked how much a copy of XP would be. Rather than selling me the OS, they told me that if I could bring in my comp and had my own software key, they would loan me the OS and make me a copy of the CD onsite provided I stayed onsite with my comp to do so and did it myself. The units they do build are respectable with plenty of room for whatever you need.
www.pcclub.com
High End Machines - Personal experience tells me to go Alienware or Falcon-NW. However, with Alienware having more proprietary mobos in some of their units, I might shy away from them.
Machines to Stay Away from - That prize goes to both HP and Dell. HP was the vendor that sold me the unit without the OS disks. It took a local TV news consumer report for me to get the OS after I had fought with them for 5 weeks.
Dell on the other hand comes from word of mouth. Two of my friends ordered Dells through the military discount program. The custom machines they ordered were not the machines they received. After 5 returns, they got the product they ordered, but almost a year after they ordered it. Additionally, initally, it took more than 3 months to process the orders. Both friends were stateside. I heard other horror stories from other military members, and as a result, will not be purchasing Dell, even if the overall satisfaction is considered satisfactory.
I hope this helps.
HP is off the list!
I know the company "can" make good stuff--I have one of their printers and it's really great--but it's pretty clear that their "service" leaves much to be desired...or that it is "extremely uneven" at best.
Thanks for all the info and interesting comments!
JDM
any smaller and/or less well-known companies that you'd like to tell us about? I can't believe that "everyone" either buys name-brand OEM units or builds their own. Please tell us about some of your favorite up-and-comers!
-JDM
(*Some of us would like the chance to buy stock, you know?) ![]()
why buy stock?
most small compaines (local ones) charge MUCH more than an OEM
so off the shelf brands are good due to their low cost, and custom builds are good to their blend of high performance, customizeability, and cost
the ones that have no intention of staying small forever.
John
(*Don't forget that Apple used to be a "small" company.)
Thanks for the info! I'll let people check the company out for themselves:
http://www.hypersonic-pc.com/
Personally, I wasn't too fond of the "banana yellow" PC they had on their main page...but I'll assume it comes in different colors. ![]()
-JDM
Do you own one, or know anyone who does? How are they in terms of quality, service, and support? (I know their prices are pretty good.)
-JDM
and with John Robies support, i think the brand is great. When i get a new desktop, with dual-core and longhorn, etc. I'll get it from them.
Roger
be sure to let us know how everything works out for you when you do! ![]()
Sincerely, JDM
I received a (CNet/Profile) email from a member just recently, not posting his (user) name without his permission:
Quote:
"Subject: A quick thanks
Message:
Dear Mr. Robie,
You don't know me, but I wanted to send you a quick thank you for helping me with a computer purchase that you didn't even know you did. See, I was in the market for a new computer and I was researching Dells...building my own....tons of websites to try to find the best computer at a reasonable price. I accidentially ran into your post on a cnet forum highly praising monarch computer so I chose to check them out. Sure enough, I was impressed with their deals and went with them and I have no regrets. I love my machine and it's a top of the line beauty for only 1200 bucks. Thanks!"
Unquote.
Hi JDM,
I have not participated in your "Who makes the best Desktops" survey, as from my observation and experience quite a few different companies make excellent computers depending on what model being looked at.
As for myself, I'll have Monarch make my next computer with their excellent selection of quality parts and pay just a very slight $ over me building myself, and have someone to phone and make good if there is a problem (instead of chewing myself out). ![]()
Thanks for the info, John!
JDM
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