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Computer newbies: What happens to mpeg downloads?
What happens to MPEG
by RTT - 4/8/05 2:46 AM In reply to: What happens to mpeg downloads? by grandpaw7If you pick "open" rather than "download" the file goes into a windows temp file which is accessable and from which you can remove, rename and same the file, but for a neophyte, getting to the file can be complex. You might want to create a folder on your C drive called "downloads" or something and "dowload" music files [for example] to that folder. It takes about the same time to "open" the file as to "dowload," occupies the same amount of space on your hard drive, and you will later have the easy option of deleting the file from an easily-accesable folder or moving it to another folder [for good organizational purposes] that the newer versions of Windows provide called "my music." Hope this is of some little help.
I don't understand
by grandpaw7 - 4/10/05 6:46 AM In reply to: What happens to MPEG by RTTI'm not sure I understand. RTT indicates that I can either download or save a file. But when I get an email with an attachment, I have to download it before I get the opportunity to either save it or open it. So, I never get the option to either download or save that RTT speaks of. grandpaw
Resolved but confused
by grandpaw7 - 4/10/05 7:20 AM In reply to: I don't understand by grandpaw7I feel I have gotten the information I need, that is, to be safe I should download the attachment, then instead of opening it I should save it to a folder I have set up for downloads, and then I should scan it with AVG for problems before I open it.
While I have the following questions about some of the replies, they are not critical and it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they were ignored. I get the impression that one reason I am not fully understanding is that some of the replies are addressing the situation I posed, that is, getting an file as an attachment to an email, and that others are addressing dealing with a file on the internet, not in a email. But maybe my impression is wrong.
RTT speaks of the option to either download or save. But with an email attachment, my only option is to ignore or download, which will then give me the option to either open it or save it so that I never get just the option to download or save.
Aussie Pete speaks of the attachment remaining embedded in the email until it is saved. But, again, while it of course will remain embedded if I ignore it, if I exercise my only other option and download it, I presume it not just embedded in the email but that it also exists on my computer, read to be either opened or saved. So I'm not sure of what the point is that Aussie is making.
msims speaks of the difference between a stream and a download. But my situation involves an attachment to an email. Again, my only option is to download or ignore. I presume a stream is not something I would get as an attachment. Or, if is, my only option would be to ignore it or download it, so that I would treat it the same as any other file that is attached to an email.
Coryphaeus speaks of needing to Save To Target if I want to keep a file. But he also says that when I download the file it might end up in a temporary file. I presume that if it does that, it will then be on my hard drive and I won't need to Save To Target, but that I should Save To Target anyhow so that I won't need to find out if it went to a temporary file. Right?
kwkid speaks of the overkill of having the attachment scanned before downloading and again having it scanned after downloading it by saving it to a folder and having it scanned. While he mentions using the same antivirus for both scans, in my case, the first scan would be Hotmail's Trend scan, and the second would be my AVG scan. If there is overkill, it would be because both scans are equally effective, which I guess it debatable. If AVG is more reliable than Trend, there would be some reason for the double scan.
PLEASE IGNORE THE FOREGOING POST
by grandpaw7 - 4/10/05 7:34 AM In reply to: Resolved but confused by grandpaw7I got the info I need to deal with email attachments. The questions I raised are not important, so please ignore them. grandpaw
PLEASE IGNORE THE FOREGOING POST
by grandpaw7 - 4/10/05 7:32 AM In reply to: I don't understand by grandpaw7PLEASE IGNORE.
Ok Grandpaw
by MarkFlax
- 4/10/05 9:13 AM
In reply to: PLEASE IGNORE THE FOREGOING POST by grandpaw7
As you wish.
They were good questions, but as you seem to have resolved the issue(s) in your own mind, I see no reason in any of us continuing with our own points of view.
As so often happens with threads in forums such as these, a simple initial question will produce a whole range of different answers and comments, some correct, some observational, and some, well...... argumentative. 
But all interesting.
Take care,
Mark
Re: What happens to MPEG downloads?
by Digital_Guy - 4/9/05 9:13 PM In reply to: What happens to mpeg downloads? by grandpaw7The idea is probably the same, but varies a little depending on which operating system you use. In Mac OS X, files that you aren't supposed to be able to save, or view later or offline, are stored in an invisible folder. I think this folder is meant to serve as a sort of "invisible cache". On my Mac., the path to the location is as follows:
Computer -> HD -> private -> tmp -> 501 -> TemporaryItems
PLEASE note the case of "private", "tmp", and "TemporaryItems" ... I am not sure, but I think this is related to Mac OS X's tie to UNIX. Also, the folder named "501" may have a different number on your computer (if you are using a Mac.).
I've also noticed, on the Mac., that sometimes the names of the files are even given "odd" filenames, to make them even more difficult to determine what they are. I know that most QuickTime files will have a name something like "QTPluginTempxxxx" (xxxx being a number). To use these files, I drag them to the desktop, re-name them with a file name, and add ".mov" as an extension (Such as ... MovieTrailer.mov ). The idea is the same regardless of the operating system you are using - do a search for files with the following criteria: that have been created "Today" (assuming that this is when you have "viewed" the video), "Visibility is OFF", and file size is pretty large, say above 8 or 10 MB (this should suffice for locating most video files, you can, of course, change the file size to a lower number, but by doing so, increase the number of returns you will receive).
I've made an alias to the "TemporaryItems" folder on my desktop, so that I can go directly to the folder and drag any items out that I want to keep. I check the folder occasionally to see what is there, and to delete anything that is taking up space that I don't need anymore. You should be able to do the same.
I hope this helps, I would be interested in hearing any feedback. Let me know ... I look forward to hearing from you. Good luck!
What happens to mpeg downloads?
by msims - 4/9/05 10:54 PM In reply to: What happens to mpeg downloads? by grandpaw7In order to answer your question you must know what the difference is between a download and a stream. A
download as you may know is any file that can contain any data like a PDF, spreadsheet, voice, video or any other file for instnace that sits hosted on a server anywhere on the internet until a request is made by a user to retrieve it. The request is made by simply clicking on a link to a URL on a website and saving it in a folder onto your PC. The file is copied from the server to your PC and it will stay there until you delete it.
Streaming on the otherhand is very different than downloading a file. The file such as that mpeg file that you've wondered where it went to is actually stored on the server but when you click on it to open it will playback in Windows Media Player as video on your PC. After the playback of video ends it stays on the server not your PC. This is called streaming which only allows you to view and listen to the contents of the file. This is simply like watching TV at home without a VCR to record the show. When streaming an mpeg file only the copy of the file is streamed through your windows media player application to display on screen. So when the video (mpeg)stops the original file remains on the server. MPEG is short for Motion Picture Experts Group which developed the MPEG file compression system which has a compression subsystem called MPEG Audio layer-3 or MP3 for short. Most mpeg files are compressed when stored and decompressed on playback using this subsystem. MPEG4 is a newer version of MPEG3 which is on its way and is comming into use right now.
Keep in mind that this is a very old and simplistic if not very effective form of copy protection as it applies to all licensed and copyrighted mpeg and mp3 files. As a higher form of copy protection most mp3 files are encrypted with either a 128-bit cypher or some other method of encryption and music artists today insist that you subscribe to such mp3 sites such as Rhapsody or Napster.com to buy mp3 files of thier music for a monthly subscription fee of $9.95. This lets you either listen to (stream) music and or download their mp3 files if you like them. Sort of like try before you buy. In order to download the mp3 files some sites let you capture the streams into an mp3 file which you can save to your PC. This is legal of course as long as you honor the payment plan.
There are many meltimedia applications which let you do this and there are two: Roxio's EasyMedia Creator 7 which has Sound Editor a media stream capture program which you can also use to record audio cassette tapes and save them into mp3 files plus a free subscription to Napster.com as your choice. Then there's Nero's Burning CD-ROM 6, Nero Wave Editor which does the same function as Roxio's SoundEditor.
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