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About gmail
by cranth34 - 4/1/05 4:56 AM In reply to: Is GMail the worst email provider ever created? by VAF815I have been a member of gmail for 2 months now and so far I have had very little spoof mail I got more on yahoo mail than I do with gmail.
regards craig
Spoofing on Gmail
by loricj - 4/1/05 5:39 AM In reply to: About gmail by cranth34I have been using gmail for about three months now, and ,so far(knock on wood), I have had no problems. Matter of fact, I like it far better than Yahoo or Hotmail.
Maybe you should close down that gmail acct. and open a new one. That should fix your problem.
You could also check with Gmail user groups. They offer plenty of assistance on resolving gmail issues and bugs. And, I would also recommend informing gmail themselves so they are aware of the issue
Good luck to you and a super day!
Gmail
by dbays - 4/1/05 11:03 AM In reply to: About gmail by cranth34I've had Gmail for 2 to 3 months now, and although I've had a few glitches, I still prefer it to any of the others I've used. I have it configured with Outlook Express as well, as it is still in Beta, but the features are superior to any other program or POP service.
Today they increased the storage to 2 Gb's and added
RTF on a phase in program.
Eventually, it will be the best of the best.
I subscribe to numerous newsletters, etc ,and have had no problems with any type of unwanted/unsolicited
mail or adverts.
Occasionally a newsletter will hit the SPAM filter because it may have ads attached, but none that I haven't been subscribed to, and I just click, NOT SPAM
Maybe I'm lucky, but I,ve installed a lot of security,and in the 2 years I've been at this, have had no problems, and have more than 300 programs installed.
I like Gmail!
by allie16 - 4/4/05 7:03 PM In reply to: Gmail by dbaysyea, i like Gmail a lot, i mean, it;s really cool that i found out today that my Gmail box is 2059 MB. can u image that? 2059 MB man! that;s hella a lot of storage, i probably won;t use them all, but at least, it looks cool.
News Flash
by snharden - 4/1/05 5:35 AM In reply to: Is GMail the worst email provider ever created? by VAF815Word on the street is Google has decided to up its storage limit to 2GB after Yahoo matched Google's 1GB.
Whats next 1 terabyte, 1 exabyte......Just how much e-mail storage do people really need......
Google Boosts Free Storage in Web E-Mail Battle
April 01, 2005 02:03 AM ET
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Google Inc., which took the first shot in the free e-mail storage battle with the release of its Gmail product last year, said on Thursday it is doubling free storage to 2 gigabytes shortly after Yahoo Inc. matched its original offer. More...
Gmail problems
by Jesus Geek - 4/1/05 5:57 AM In reply to: Is GMail the worst email provider ever created? by VAF815I have had a Gmail account for about 4 or 5 weeks now and have had no problems so far. I decided that when I got this new account that I would only use it for sending "private" emails to my friends and such. No listing it anywhere on the web for any reasons. When I sign up for something, or order something from the net, I use a different account. THAT account gets all kinds of spam and junk mail. So far my plan has worked. My Gmail has stayed clean thus far. As for your problem... It is the first complaint I have heard of concerning Gmail. Who knows, I might be the next account to get spoofed, but I think yours is an isolated case. Maybe changing your password, or making a totally new account would solve your problem.
Ditto
by Sheeva - 4/1/05 6:16 AM In reply to: Gmail problems by Jesus GeekI have been using gmail for a couple of months and do exactly the same thing for now, use it only for really personal comm. If I need to use email for any on-line registration or shopping, etc. I use my hotmail account and boy does it really get hammered (even with their newer junk mail reporting). So far, I'm really pleased with how gmail works but I'm not sure what will happen once I "open" it up to other uses. . .
Same thing here
by aiyahh - 4/1/05 9:38 AM In reply to: Gmail problems by Jesus GeekI've had my gmail account since June of last year and have not had any spoofing issues. Unline my yahoo account.
My solution is the same, to have certain addresses be purely private and not provide to any businesses. I also ask friends that do batch emails to use the BCC setting and not show my address when they send mass emails. Friends that do not comply are not given my gmail address.
Re G-Mail
by FieryBuffy - 4/1/05 5:58 AM In reply to: Is GMail the worst email provider ever created? by VAF815I have Recently signed up to
g-mail and i find it great, i get no unwanted
E-Mails, i think it is great service and
i have told all my friends all about it,
i have heard of no promblems with it.
Jackie
Spoofing - a fact of cyber life if ...
by AlTheEldr - 4/1/05 7:11 AM In reply to: Is GMail the worst email provider ever created? by VAF815First a definition. Spoofing is the forging of the headers of an email message. Typically this means that at least the from address is forged. As a result, if the To address is not valid and the message bounces, the owner of the email address gets the bounce message, not the PC that sent the message.
Why can spoofing work? Simple. Repeat this mantra until it sinks in. "There is no security on sending email." The analogy to snail mail is fairly close. Anyone can send snail mail as you. But the PO is fairly good about making sure that only you receive snail mail sent to you. By design, originally security was only on the receiving side of email, just like with the Post Office.
That has changed to some extent. Responsible ISP's have for some time required a log in to send email. Lately, responsible ISP's have gotten sticky about which other email servers they receive email from. This was as much an anti-spam change as anything else. (Spam is unsolicited, commercial, email. Spoofing is usually done by spammers, but it is not a requirement of spam. Phising is email that attempts an identity theft. Pharming is a relatively new technique of identity theft involving web site take over.)
I will spare you all the technical details. The scenario is simple. Malware gets installed on an unprotected PC. That PC has your email address on it. The malware finds your address and uses it to send email. The sending can be done in a variety of ways depending on how badly the spoofer wants to hide things. The key point is that the sending does not require anything more about you than your email address.
Passwords don't matter very much to a spoofer. They aren't needed at all for spoofing to occur. So don't worry about that yours has been compromised.
Until various protective schemes under consideration (and disagreement) can be put into place, there will be no systematic solution to this problem because security on sending was not built in from the beginning.
Points to consider:
1. Your chances of being spoofed depend on how public you are with your email address. If you are active on any kind of mailing list, it will be avialable widely enough that chances are it will be available on an infected PC.
gmail addresses are no more susceptable a priori than any other email address. However, I suspect that all the free services, get used a lot more by folks who want to be anonymous for purposes of mailing lists, etc. Therefore, it would not surprise me if they were more likely to be spoofed than that of some random ISP.
2. Always have multiple email addresses and carefully segregate them between business and family and home and pleasure, etc.
3. You can get digital signatures and use those to sign email that matters. They are available at low cost or free, depending. Digital signatures means that the recipient of a message can make sure that it comes from you. They won't prevent spoofing.
Because of the nature of the net spamming and spoofing are facts of life that are not likely to go away anytime soon.
The only thing you can really do is filter out the undeliverable bounce messages into a separate folder where you can check up on them from time to time. You don't really want to zap them automatically. There may arise an occasion when you send an important message yourself, and it bounces. The only way to track down what happened is to have all the bounce messages.
Regards,
Al Christoph
Senior Consultant and Proprietor
Three Bears Software, LLC
just right software @ just right prices @ 3bears.biz
I have had gmail for about 2 months now and I have received
by Ithoughtso - 4/1/05 7:38 AM In reply to: Spoofing - a fact of cyber life if ... by AlTheEldronly one spam email and thats a newsletter which I labelled as spam, so I dont really feel I've even received spam since I should have just unsubscribed from the newsletter. Gmail is new but being new does not mean that Google compromises quality. I have to clean out my yahoo and msn/hotmail accounts daily from spam to the tune of 10 a day for yahoo and 50 for hotmail. I have used neither of these email addresses for any personal or business emailing to the extent which i receive spamming. With all the hoopla surrounding Gmails launch, you would think that Gmail would have come under much more of a focused attack from the spammers and spoofers. I believe that most instances of virus proliferation comes from unsaavy or just plain dumb computer users who unwittingly send virus through the mail. I had a friend who sent me daily jokes via email and the last time I spoke to him on the phone I lambasted him for sending such useless drivvel. He sends that and so called chain letters to me. I have now blocked his email address and told him to call me with any information of substance. Most ISP's will not send emails to excessive contacts or everyone in your address book because it looks like a spam attack is occurring or a mass emailing is about to occur. For example, if you have 200 people in your address book in outlook and you attempt to send a hello message to all of them and your ISP is Verizon DSL, it probably will just sit there and time out because of the number of email addresses that simple message must be routed to. In essence, I would blame dumb mail recipients and senders, rather than Google Gmail.
A Few Additional Thoughts, Al...
by csetzer - 4/1/05 9:37 AM In reply to: Spoofing - a fact of cyber life if ... by AlTheEldrIt's important to note that being spoofed is not, necessarily, the fault of Google's lack of vigilance. There are a number of servers out there that will let you send outgoing mail with any old address set up as the return.
Another trick that spammers use to create phony addresses are random letter assignments attached to a known domain. They want the messages to look like they came from a legit source (would you open something from 127596!!x@gmail.com?).
Regardless of how this address has been harvested by this system, it's likely that the address will keep receiving spoofed messages.
"There is no security on sending email"
by ktyldy - 4/2/05 6:57 PM In reply to: Spoofing - a fact of cyber life if ... by AlTheEldr'Repeat this mantra until it sinks in. "There is no security on sending email." '
Thank you, thank you for saying this ~ the minute one sends an email the first time your addy is out there and forget security...we are kidding ourselves if we think otherwise.
Ann
GMail has server overload problems, etc.
by pjbealer - 4/1/05 7:30 AM In reply to: Is GMail the worst email provider ever created? by VAF815I have had GMail about months and loved it until recently. It appears their servers are overloaded due to taking on too many new members, because it runs very slow recently. Also they are putting my new mail in the Trash box, so check it each time you log in. I have waited more than a week for a reply to my inquiry about this, but nothing so far. Now I read that they are increasing storage to 2 GB, get real! You are having problems handling 1 GB. Get the bugs out first. I have stopped using it until they respond to my queries.
Overloaded servers?
by snharden - 4/1/05 7:45 AM In reply to: GMail has server overload problems, etc. by pjbealerWhat a surprise. Thats usually what happens. Google is a great search engine and now they want to be everything to everybody. Everytime these companies get big they take on everyone and there brother and they lose there focus.
If the rumor mill is true they are working on their own browser and operating system as well. And one of the tech sites had inside info that they are also working on anti-virus and anti-spyware software. I hear they just got one of Mozilla's programmers to help them out. We'll see as time goes on...
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