Spyware, viruses, & security : Norton v. McAfee...that is the question?
I say neither, also
by bobb8888 - 3/25/05 4:23 PM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605There are a couple of free utilities that work quite well. Avast and AVG both have access to the same virus definitions as the big guys, but don't charge you. I tested AVG and it worked well at home. They apparently take up less operating space too. I have been using Norton at work. It takes a long time to open or close anything. Our secretary turned her anti-virus off because loading files was taking so long. That of course is really a stupid idea and I am sure we are eventually going to get a virus that is going to hose up our network.
I am currently using MicroTrend Security suite. It seems to be much less of a drag and routinely does automatic updates. I also use Adaware, Microsoft Antispyware, Winpatrol and Spybot.
Norton or McAfee?
by kapmep - 3/25/05 5:27 PM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605Ok, here's my 2 cents worth. I have used both in the past. McAfee never did a good job either at catching viruses or getting updates. Norton (and I've used all the different versions) has become a "Fat Cow" that uses a lot of memory and works less than satisfactory. That's not even getting into trying to remove it from your System.
If you are willing to pay a few bucks, You can't go wrong with TREND MICRO PC-CILLIN INTERNET SECURITY. Not only is this program outstanding in catching all the bad stuff before it can harm your computer, but it will not use much of your memory so your system will not slow down while it's running. It updates immediately when a new threat is found and a fix has been done so you always have the most recent update.
This company sells it's product to a lot of other company's that bundle it with their own software, but you can get their software directly from them. If you wish to give them a shot, here is their address: http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/personal.htm
Lastly I never endorse any product but one as important as this, forced me to break my own rule.
Kent
Norten
by aj6a - 3/25/05 7:04 PM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605I like Norton for years and I never add any other sofware, because Norton can catch all!
I am very high on norton software, but I am sure that others are good also.
the Answer is you so not two software and you select one, Norton or McAfee
I am using XP home
Norton or McAfee
by dlhoff - 3/25/05 9:15 PM In reply to: Norten by aj6aNo one has mentioned the eTrust products from Computer Associates. I use their anti-spyware product called Pest Patrol and I'm very happy with it. Unlike Spybot and Adaware, it resides on your system like an anti-virus program and keeps spyware out. It does regular updates and uses little resources.
I have been using AVG antivirus like many others here and am also very happy with it.
Larry
Norton vs. McAfee
by JTHunter - 3/25/05 9:18 PM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605Others have commented on Norton being a resource hog and I agree. So is McAfee. I have both on different PCs. They have also commented on not having more than one AV program running at any given time. Very true!
My desktop is a 7 yr. old 400 mHz P2 and I have always run Norton on it with no problems (other than its bloat). McAfee came on my laptop (a 5 yr old Compaq 475 AMD K2) has never, despite repeated calls/emails to McAfee support, been able to get the Email Scanner to work properly. Both have ZoneAlarm's free firewall, AdAware, and Spybot Search & Destroy. In all that time, there has never been any warning from either about any viruses. I MAY just have been lucky, as my mother's Norton has warned her at least 3 times (that I know of) that she has received an email from a friend who uses WebTV that the email had the Klez virus.
Several have commented on the free virus scanner AVG from http://grisoft.com as being quite good. The old TechTV shows (before they became G4) "ScreenSavers" and "Call for Help" were very pleased with its functionality. Having never used it, I can't say anything except that is free (donations are accepted). How often AVG gets updated MAY be a problem as it is basically the work of one person (maybe a couple) and may not get updated as quickly.
The biggest complaint against BOTH now is that they are trying to push consumers into getting the "suite" programs that have AV, firewall, spam/pop-up blocker, etc., but at 1/3 to 1/2 higher cost. I used to be able to find either on sale (after rebates) for as little as $5 from some of the discount stores locally. Not this year. PHOOEY!! (I also agree with the comments about your need to upgrade from ME, BUT ONLY if your system has at least 512 RAM and a decent CPU.
Good luck!
Norton or MacAfee
by evdon2 - 3/25/05 11:22 PM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605I had loads of problems with both Norton & MacAfee,I uninstalled them went with CWShedder-AntiVir6 & Spygate personal firewall(All freeware)and my computer now runs like a well oiled machine. Good Luck
McAFFE Only
by fvb11 - 3/26/05 7:11 AM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605I have tried both and had much more trouble with Norton. Except for a problem years back when I ran ME I have had no real problems with McAFFE
Norton Vs Mcafee
by Michael00360 - 3/28/05 5:59 AM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605To me, they all remove viruses about the same. The problem I have with Norton thought, is the way it hogs my system resources. Due to the program loading various Symantic programs during boot-up, it slowed my computer down and even made some game playing a problem. My suggestion would be to go with Zonelabs (Zonealarm Internet Security) or Trend Micro's PC-cillin Internet Security 2005. I have used PC-Cillin before and was very pleased with the way it ran, and it's ease of use. Zonelabs (what I am using now), is just as effective and easy to use and both do not take up your CPU resources.
Norton or McAfee
by Niki - 3/30/05 3:24 PM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605If you must buy either one get the Norton! However, I'd HIGHLY recommend the ZONE ALARM SECURITY SUITE!
Neither! They're both pigs...
by hhs2112 - 3/30/05 10:19 PM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605I was (note past-tense…) a very loyal Norton/Symantec user for MANY years and have purchased many of their products, but no more. Everything Symantec sells is an over-bloated resource-hogging pig that leaves the end-user COMPLETELY unsupported by Symantec's inept tech support staff.
McAfee, which was the AV-package of choice at my office misses more than it catches and runs even slower that Norton (which is a seemingly impossible task…)
Throw away ALL of your Symantec products and your McAfee products…
My personal (new) choices;
1) Trend Micro’s PC-cillin Internet Security; it’s faster and it’s better than either Norton/McAfee. Includes a firewall, spam filter, etc., downloaded their free demo and check it out; $5 bucks says you end up buying it.
2) Iolo Technologies System Mechanic – great Norton Utilities replacement – set it and forget it.
3) Lavasoft/Microsoft/Spy-bot trio of spyware detection and removal tools – best part, they’re free!
Now, now, let's play nicely....
by JBrown123 - 9/2/05 9:43 PM In reply to: Neither! They're both pigs... by hhs2112After all, it's not like either of them are like Enron, or are they? From my sources at Symantec, one of their former Managers (last name Duan) is now working at Microsoft (more likely their Security Center Division that was the new feature in the SP2 patch for Windows XP). He controlled, I mean were really, really good friends with another manager in Symantec. I've heard that this other manager even got the chance to live with the former Manager in the latter's Rancho Palos Verdes home. For those unfamiliar with the area, Rancho Palos Verdes is an exclusive neighborhood in the South Bay region of Los Angeles, almost similar to Malibu. Anyway, what kind of relationship they developed, well, who's to say. All I know is that the former manager has a vested interest in Symantec and the other manager is still "friends" with the former manager. To get right to point since I haven't painted a clear picture for some of you, can you trust Symantec and Microsoft who have insider information on each other's company. I have a question of trust in this kind of relationship both on a human level and on a business level.
neither
by bderou2 - 4/2/05 3:56 AM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605The Antivirus app that beats them both is Panda Antivirus. Updates daily or more than that and catches viruses that Norton AND McAfee misses. Their Internet Security Suite also does a number on Spyware as well! Check it out at www.pandasoftware.com.
My dept at work got an bad virus infection last year running fully updated versions of Norton. Norton didn't even see the viruses much less do anythign about them. We loaded Panda and it knocked them out! Now my job has gone fully Panda!
Bloatware & scare tactics
by M_Rudas - 4/2/05 5:34 AM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605I use neither Norton nor McAfee; I have found the first to be a bloated resource hog and the second to be nearly as bloated and less effective. In my "Dealing with Malware" article: http://users.ameritech.net/mpr_support/Malware.html
and my "Best-of-Breed" software page: http://clik.to/bestofbreed
I recommend the free versions of "Grisoft AVG" and "ZoneAlarm", though the article also mentions the other major free players, as well.
Remember that malware control is a three-legged stool; you can consider the anti-spyware third leg to be a claw--you must use multiple utilities to get full coverage. The utilities I mention in the article include "Ad-Aware", "Spybot - Search & Destroy", and the Giant/Microsoft product, but also startup-checkers like "HijackThis" and "StartDreck"--though these take a bit more experience or help to get the most out of them.
If you want a bit more perspective on the issue, sites like http://www.vmyths.com or http://www.infowarrior.org can provide a usefully-contrarian view.
Forget Norton and McAfee!
by Hir8ed - 4/2/05 6:39 AM In reply to: Norton v. McAfee...that is the question? by blksmk605Go with Computer Associates eTrust Software and take care of it all with one product... It includes Anti-Spam, Firewall, and a great Virus Scanner. Updates to the latest virus definitions daily and automatically. Scedule your scans or run them manually. Great software I've been using for two years and it is GREAT SOFTWARE at a VERY GOOD price!
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