Browsers: compare Mozilla vs Firefox
Extensions
by Jo-W - 3/25/05 4:03 AM In reply to: it's just that... by computer_geniusThing is, most stuff in the mozilla suit are avaible in FireFox as extensions (ChatZilla, html editor, etc).
That's one of the reasons why I use FireFox, it comes with less features when installed, but can be added using extensions...
(bad grammer *lol*)
mozilla vs firefox
by MasterShake - 3/25/05 10:58 AM In reply to: compare Mozilla vs Firefox by bentlyPersonally, I use Firefox much more than the Mozilla Suite. I don't really like the built in mail with Mozilla, so I use Thunderbird instead. For HTML editing I use some Firefox extensions which work better than what the Mozilla Suite offers. Firefox has many more extensions, such as Adblock and the Web Developer toolbar, which is another reason that I use it more.
mozilla vs firefox
by Coli - 3/26/05 11:16 AM In reply to: mozilla vs firefox by MasterShakeFor me it is the opposite. I am very reliant on the email component and also make a lot of use of the html editor.
What I like about the Mozilla suite is it is less effort to install all in one package (though it can still be a chore on my unix w/s at work).
On the other hand the focus of the mozilla org seems to be to move towards FF and TB and I fear that sooner or later I will have to migrate.
Also having them as separate applications means that a crash of the browser won't take your email down at the same time (I sometimes get crashes - but I am a very heavy user and run mozilla for days or weeks on end).
Coli
Some facts...
by MichaelF - 3/27/05 6:59 PM In reply to: compare Mozilla vs Firefox by bentlyHi All
I have heard some news recently that makes this question irrelevent.
The Mozilla organisation are stopping their efforts on the Mozilla Suite to concentrate on Firefox (internet) and Thunderbird (email).
Just to answer some questions that have arisen from above...
The Netscape browser was first developed by the Mozilla people and is based on the same engine, but is severely bloated with commercial additions (shopping etc).
Firefox is lean and clean and secure (just 4.7MB download) but you can make it work the way you want with dozens of extensions to choose from.
I leave IE's security mode on high except when I am downloading Windows Updates and then I raise it again as it is integrated into the op system and can leave you vulnerable even if you don't use it.
Thanks
Michael
Mozilla or Firefox
by Michael00360 - 3/28/05 6:08 AM In reply to: compare Mozilla vs Firefox by bentlyFirefox is just a newer browser. It offers good stability (It's what I use), and more features such as tabbed browsing (having one browser open with many different webpages inside open at the same time). Overall, I really prefer Firefox over any browser that I have tried so far.
The Mozilla org to focus development on Firefox
by sasrzs - 3/29/05 9:14 AM In reply to: compare Mozilla vs Firefox by bentlyAccording to the Mozilla development roadmap ( http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html ) the new plan is to maintain the integrated Mozilla suite but to focus development on the standalone applications like FireFox and Thunderbird. In their words:
"1. Focus development efforts on the new standalone applications: the browser currently code-named Firefox, the Mozilla Thunderbird mail/news application, and standalone composer and other apps based on the the new XUL toolkit used by Firefox and Thunderbird. We aim to make Firefox and Thunderbird our premier products, and encourage extension authors and other ISVs to target these applications for their work as well.
2. Updated: Continue to perform sustaining maintenance, including security updates, on the SeaMonkey application suite's final stable branch (1.7.x) for enterprises and other organizations with large existing Mozilla deployments...
...In short, and in the same order as the roadmap element list above, the reasons for this new plan are:
1. Firefox is simply smaller, faster, and better -- especially better not because it has every conflicting feature wanted by each segment of the Mozilla community, but because it has a strong "add-on" extension mechanism. We recognize that different users need many different features; such demand is legitimate on its face. Attempting to "hardwire" all these features to the integrated application suite is not legitimate; it's neither technically nor socially scaleable.
2. What's good for the browser is good for the mail application, too. Mozilla's integrated mail has many fine features, but it suffers from too many integration points with the other apps, and it remains a complicated front end maintained by too few people, most of whom have different day jobs now."
For what it's worth...
by rmazzeo - 4/1/05 6:42 PM In reply to: compare Mozilla vs Firefox by bentlyI too have been hearing how great Firefox is. Truth be told, I prefer Mozilla, since it seems to render more web pages better than Firefox overall. I also use & will continue to use IE, simply because it offers so much more than either alternative browser, security issues notwithstanding. The only true plusses to the others are the tabbed browsing feature & relative security, but I can find really no other reason for using the others. I've also tried Opera, which is ok, but I really don't like it as much as either FF or Mozilla. I noticed that someone mentioned "bloat" in this thread, but you know, with all the extras that Mozilla includes (E-mail, HTML, etc.), it still doesn't compare with IE's bloat. Besides, with today's hard drives, who cares about a few Mb here & there. By the time you add Thunderbird & all the extensions to FF, you've got the Mozilla suite in terms of space used anyway.
I mentioned in one of the earlier discussions on these browsers that I am a professional chauffeur on a part time basis (in addition to running my own PC business from my home), & I have yet to find a browser that renders maps as well as IE does (& I don't just mean at MSN Maps, but the Rand McNally site as well), & until someone comes up with a browser that does ALL the things I need it to do, I will stick mainly with IE & use Mozilla for other necessities, while I continue to test drive these other browsers like FF. It's really too bad that the Mozilla org. is "giving up" on it's flagship product, since it is mostly "ready for prime time", while the other pretenders try to play catch-up. Oh well, such is the way of the tech world...
security is enough
by MichaelF - 4/1/05 8:50 PM In reply to: For what it's worth... by rmazzeoHi Mazzeo
You mention that all that firefox has on IE is its tabbed browsing and security features. I would add that they are not small features and that they alone are enough to justify the switch and what I like most about FF.
Security these days is a huge problem that IE has not been able to get a foothold on and remains the most exploited and hole filled browser. It is why most computers get filled up with adware and spyware and other scams that eventually make there whole computer unusable. For this reason alone FF should be the browser for choice by most people and IE only used for those few sites that persist in using IE features (which are non standard and what makes it so unsafe). The more people who use IE the more sites will come around to making their sites more cross browser compatible (and safer).
Tabbed browsing is fantastic and save my taskbar from getting buried in programs and makes my whole computer more usable and faster to use. About the bloatware issue I use firefox without any extensions which makes it faster and leaner than IE. If I like to pretty things up or include functionality through extensions then I can but need only add the ones I need. How 'bloated' it becomes is then left up to the user, and it is not filled up (like most software these days) with features that 90% of the people don't use. This is not a hard drive issue but a performance issue.
IE is always there when you have to, but not as the default.
Michael
Beats all
by dufusdad - 4/2/05 6:25 AM In reply to: For what it's worth... by rmazzeoAvant beats all other browsers.
It is not a stand alone browser
by MichaelF - 4/2/05 11:12 PM In reply to: Beats all by dufusdadHello dufusdad
I went and had a look at Avant and read its FAQ. I was not overly impressed. With the question "Is Avant a secure browser?" the answer was "Avant Browser is as secure as Internet Explorer". This being the main problem and critisism of IE does not inspire confidence. Furthermore it says it works by "using the services of Internet Explorer", so my understanding is that it is an extension to Internet Explorer adding features it doesn't have but with all the security and other issues of IE.
I will stay with a completely new and independent firefox thank you.
Michael
Avant-Security
by dufusdad - 4/15/05 12:18 PM In reply to: It is not a stand alone browser by MichaelFIt's my philosophy that most security issues can be handled by security suites and that's what I use(TrendMicro).Avant has so many features(includig RSS feeds) that I think it is best--and also free like Firefox.
RSS Feeds for Dummies
by chesswife - 4/6/05 3:30 PM In reply to: compare Mozilla vs Firefox by bentlyFirefox has its Live Bookmarks Feature. I have yet to see an easier way to access RSS Feeds. You just click on the orange box in the corner, and answer yes if you want the feed. Then you find the headlines in your bookmarks.
FireFox Vs Mozilla
by BobMac51 - 6/20/06 9:20 AM In reply to: compare Mozilla vs Firefox by bentlyYou stated that you are missing something in FieFox.
Well? What is it that's missing?
Seriously I need to know.
Which component is missing from FireFox that exists in Mozilla.
I've just uninstalled Internet Explorer from XP as it is just too vulnerable to abuse and I've got Netscape installed in it's place.
I read somewhere that Mozilla is better than Netscape and that it's also better than FireFox.
So,..while I'm tooling around with all these new browsers I may as well get the best.
So which is it???
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