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Camcorders: Recording media and file formats....

by christy - 10/9/08 7:47 AM
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Recording media and file formats....

by christy - 10/9/08 7:47 AM

As I understand it, Digital camcorders record with tapes (Hi8, Hi8 mini...) memory cards, mini DVDs or Hard Disks .....With tapes, video footage is in DV (digital video), which has then to be "captured" to turn it into a video file by suitable software into, e.g. mov, avi, mpeg, mpeg2, mpeg4 ....., while footage recorded on memory cards are already in file form- mov, avi, mpeg...and video recorded with mini DVDs would be in mpeg2 ....

From the above observations, does it mean that DV (digital video) is in the raw form (i.e. uncompressed and not "lossy") ? If so, would Hi8 mini tapes be a better recording media, as one can create different file formats from which VCD, DVD or even HD movies can be created ? But it seems DV is on the way out, at least for the ordinary camcorders user...

christy

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One can create any desired output from a miniDV tape.

by Kiddpeat - 10/9/08 8:21 AM In reply to: Recording media and file formats.... by christy

In fact, one can create any desired output from any video source. That final output will be better (higher quality) if the original source is relatively uncompressed and lossless. That's right. It's all compressed to some degree. MiniDV simply uses far less compression than other techniques. MiniDV is not on its way out. The better (best) cameras use miniDV as their output media.

I am not familiar with Hi8, but web sources say that it has less quality than miniDV and/or it may be analog rather than digital. There may or may not be a problem capturing it for editing and rendering to other media. Again, look at the high end cameras. They do not use it.

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Re MiniDV is not on its way out ...

by christy - 10/16/08 5:55 AM In reply to: One can create any desired output from a miniDV tape. by Kiddpeat

Thanks.

Yes. miniDV is here to stay....however, manufacturers seems to be droping that for comsumers camcorders, going for DVD and Hard Disks instead. The problem is, the ordinary camcorder purchaser thinks that DVD and Hard Disk are new, and therefore better. I wonder whether there will be hybrids - Hard disk with miniDV and Memory cards, sort of a all-in-one... most miniDV already comes with memory cards.

christy

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That's not the way I'm hearing it.

by Kiddpeat - 10/16/08 8:49 AM In reply to: Re MiniDV is not on its way out ... by christy

Some manufacturers are responding to consumer demand for simple and easy. Others must then go along to hold their market share. They aren't developing DVD and hard drive cameras because they are better. They are doing it to hold market share.

The serious manufacturers, like Canon, are not dropping miniDV. Their better cameras still use it for very good reasons. If you want to follow the crowd to "easy" DVD or hard drive cameras, no one will stop you. However, if you stay with it, you will eventually understand the drawbacks and limitations that were missed in the sales pitch.

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miniDV...

by christy - 10/16/08 2:56 PM In reply to: That's not the way I'm hearing it. by Kiddpeat

I got the impression when looking for a model to replace my SONY DCR-TRV480E digital using Hi8 tapes.... Very few new niniDV models but lots of DVD, Hard Disk and HD of the SONY and CANON brands. As you have mentioned, manufacturers are looking at the market. I do consider miniDV is the best format...but I get too little numbers of models to choose from ....perhaps I have to move up from "snap shot" camcorders to semi-pro to find more models ?

christy

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(NT) Hi8 is indeed analog, and lower quality than miniDV (n/t)

by Pepe7 - 10/16/08 7:21 AM In reply to: One can create any desired output from a miniDV tape. by Kiddpeat

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(NT) Hi8 can also record in digital, with shortened time....

by christy - 10/16/08 2:59 PM In reply to: (NT) Hi8 is indeed analog, and lower quality than miniDV (n/t) by Pepe7

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