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Which Video Format for Burning Mini DV to DVD?
by damage inc - 3/6/08 9:59 PMI want to import mini DV and burn the video files on to a playable DVD. Which video format should I use to import? AVI? Should I use any compression?
Thank you.
More Questions
by damage inc - 3/6/08 11:11 PM In reply to: Which Video Format for Burning Mini DV to DVD? by damage incAlso, what video format and compression does everyone normally use when burning video files to a DVD? And how do I make a simple DVD menu?
You don't do this.
by R. Proffitt
- 3/7/08 5:23 AM
In reply to: More Questions by damage inc
You let the DVD creation software select the encoding. Sure there are some that let you tinker with this but then you can make DVDs that only play here or there.
Type DVD CREATION SOFTWARE at google.com for a start.
For a simple DVD, go get DVD FLICK while you catch up.
Bob
There are two steps involved in the process.
by Kiddpeat - 3/7/08 6:06 AM In reply to: More Questions by damage incThe first is capturing the video on a computer. For this process, you should probably use the avi option. I am assuming that the avi file option keeps the video in the DV format.
After you capture the video, you may want to do some editing to cut unwanted material, color correct, adjust volume, etc. When editing is complete, you will probably render the audio/video stream to convert it to the mpeg-2 format. The mpeg-2 file can be used by a program that burns the DVD.
Thanks
by damage inc - 3/7/08 9:30 AM In reply to: There are two steps involved in the process. by KiddpeatThanks for the help guys.
I've been using Adobe Premiere to import which imports the video to an avi. After editing I didn't know which way to export. So far I've been using avi but I will use mpeg-2 now.
Why not let the DVD creation software do it's work?
by R. Proffitt - 3/7/08 9:44 AM
In reply to: Thanks by damage inc
I've found some video editing people to lose months doing encoding runs. This is just hard won advice here so why not leave it in your .avi as lightly compressed as you can then let the DVD creator do it's job.
Bob
I'm not sure what you mean here.
by Kiddpeat - 3/7/08 10:48 AM In reply to: Why not let the DVD creation software do it's work? by R. Proffitt
If you mean that the original avi file should be fed into the DVD creation software, then you can't perform any editing of the captured file. If you mean that the edited file should be rendered to an avi format, what's the point? You simply generate a second very large file which will be rendered a second time by the DVD creation program. You can avoid that second render by rendering the mpeg-2 directly from the editing program.
That's how trainers train people to use Sony Vegas. Vegas is the software than can invoke, as necessary, multiple processors to accelerate the rendering process into the target mpeg-2 format. DVD Architect does not then have to rerender the file. It simply packages the rendered file, allows you to build menus, etc., builds the image files which will be burned, and burns the DVD. If additional changes are then needed at the DVD Architect level, it is not necessary to render the component video files over and over again.
What I find is that most videographers can't create a mpeg2
by R. Proffitt - 3/7/08 12:23 PM
In reply to: I'm not sure what you mean here. by Kiddpeat
Ready to be used by the DVD program and it gets rendered again.
I know what you are proposing but given the 99% failure rates I encounter why not just continue with the editing they know and just let the DVD software do it's own thing?
Bob
Either Way Works?
by damage inc - 3/7/08 12:33 PM In reply to: What I find is that most videographers can't create a mpeg2 by R. Proffitt
So either exporting mpeg-2 or leaving the video as an avi are both fine since the dvd burning software has to do it's own converting?
IF and that can be a very big IF...
by R. Proffitt - 3/7/08 12:37 PM
In reply to: Either Way Works? by damage inc
You could save it as a MPEG2 but the encoding would have to be spot on plus here I would lose quality if my source files were in DVD MPEG2 only. I'll leave them in a lightly compressed AVI for now and do it my way since I see no benefit of moving to the crappy MPEG2 that a DVD would use directly.
I bet I'll take some guff on this but after doing this for a few years I'm not going to give up quality in my source material.
Bob
PS. Time to encode is minimal now with our workhorses being Core2Duo machines.
Which Compression?
by damage inc - 3/7/08 1:18 PM In reply to: IF and that can be a very big IF... by R. Proffitt
Thanks R. Proffitt.
So which compression do you recommend? In Adobe if I export as a Microsoft DV AVI, the only compression available is Microsoft DV NTSC. If I export as a Microsoft AVI, I can select a number of different compressions.
I appologize for so many questions. I usually only deal with Quicktime videos and H.264 compression for my animations. This is my first time dealing with digital video and DVDs.
YOUR CHOICE!
by R. Proffitt - 3/8/08 6:44 AM
In reply to: Which Compression? by damage inc
I can't choose what compression you will like. And of the dozen video editors (people) not a one has made the same choice and would toss you of the studio if you told them they were wrong.
Bob
What is 'spot on', and why would the DVD burner produce a
by Kiddpeat - 3/7/08 3:53 PM In reply to: IF and that can be a very big IF... by R. Proffitt
good mpeg file while the video editor would not?
One would almost think we are fine tuning parameters here when, in fact, we are merely clicking on the correct output format. There is no loss of quality if all one is doing is burning an edited video to a DVD. You either compress it in the editor, or in the very next step in the DVD burner. There is no difference except that the editor might produce a marginally better file because it is working with the original source. You might have a point if you expect to retain the avi file on a hard drive for future use in another video.
Start a new discussion
by R. Proffitt - 3/8/08 6:45 AM
In reply to: What is 'spot on', and why would the DVD burner produce a by Kiddpeat
We would only confuse most with such a discussion about encoding, options and more. The decisions are not black and white here.
Bob
Totally agree with Proffitt
by victork1 - 3/13/08 7:35 PM In reply to: Either Way Works? by damage incAVI has super high quality while mpeg compresses so much that it looses quality (just as a bought audio CD versus mp3 - I buy my CDs so I don't loose any quality). If you already have mini DV, you have the highest possible quality (for home users), don't ruin it by compressing it.
I import the video from the camera using Windows Movie Maker; that will let you do ANYTHING (cut, add titles, paste, whatever), anything but making a DVD (had to be Microsoft after all!). So - I open W Movie Maker, import from camera, edit, when I'm done I save as AVI. Then I open a DVD making software (Nero, Roxio or freebies like MoviesToDVD, Sothink, etc found in download.com). They will recognize the AVI files as valid video files and make a DVD. Period. Then you can delete your AVIs or save them on a data DVD for backup (with family stuff, I do).
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