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Networking & wireless: this is weird?i cant but then i can connect to the internet?

by shclarkson - 10/16/09 12:52 PM
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this is weird?i cant but then i can connect to the internet?

by shclarkson - 10/16/09 12:52 PM

all of a suddern when i click on my browser it cant connect to the internet i tried to repair the network connection but it wont repair ? but if i click on disable,then click on enable the connection it will ??? wots all this about ?

only trouble is i have to do this every time i switch on my comp.

anybody any ideas wots this all about ?

i'm useing windows XP pro, if you need to know anything more just tell me wot u need to know and i'll be glad to tell you.

THANKS

Post 2 of 25

XP Pro what?

by Coryphaeus - 10/16/09 4:06 PM In reply to: this is weird?i cant but then i can connect to the internet? by shclarkson

What service Pack. Are you fully updated? Do you have an active and up-to-date anti-virus program running? What is the exact error message?

Post 3 of 25

xp pro what ?

by shclarkson - 10/17/09 11:11 AM In reply to: XP Pro what? by Coryphaeus

pack 3,pc tools anti-virus & yes fully update, in network connections, right click on icon(LAN Connection)then click repair but it will not repair it just comes back with this message :- windows could not finish repairing the problem because the folling action cannot be completed. "Renewing your ip address"

now if i right click the icon and just click disable then right click again and click enable i can connect to the internet, but i have to do this every time i switch on my comp as it's the only i can get online

if i double click on the icon then click support i have noticed that the ip address is differant than before i disabled then enabled ?

before disable it starts with 169 but after iv'e enabled it starts with 192 ?

so i take it my problem is something to do with the ip address ?

in connection status it say's address type: Assigned by DHCP

BUT before i disable it say differant

Post 4 of 25

cont'd

by shclarkson - 10/17/09 11:26 AM In reply to: xp pro what ? by shclarkson

it say's limited or no connectivity, and shows a message saying :- the network has not assigned an address to the computer

Post 5 of 25

cont'd

by shclarkson - 10/17/09 11:39 AM In reply to: cont'd by shclarkson

so it seems to me that when i start up it's not automaticly assigning the correct ip address,

but when i disable then enable it assigns the correct ip address and i can connect to the internet

hope all this helps ??

Post 6 of 25

XP PRO WHAT?

by shclarkson - 10/21/09 8:42 AM In reply to: XP Pro what? by Coryphaeus

LEFT REPLY FOR YOU ?

Post 7 of 25

What do have to do to get a reply ???

by shclarkson - 10/30/09 7:36 AM In reply to: XP PRO WHAT? by shclarkson

left all the details was asked no but no reply's WHY ???

Post 8 of 25

Two thing to begin with

by Steven Haninger - 10/30/09 9:13 AM In reply to: What do have to do to get a reply ??? by shclarkson

First, make sure your DHCP client service is set to "automatic" and not manual. Next, not being assigned an IP address could be caused by something not right with your router. Router firmware is often a culprit with connection problems. Another thing could be how long you wait after starting your PC before attempting to get on the internet. You should have your network icon set up to load into your system tray. You should be able to see when it loads and in the process acquiring an IP address and then, when it's connected. One way you can try to see if it's a problem acquiring an address is to turn off DHCP in your router and set up your PC with a static address. Then, you run that way for a while and see if the problem goes away. If it does, there's a good chance you have a communication issue with the router. You do want to make sure your router is on all the time and ready when you power up your PC. Hope that helps.

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RE Two things to begin with

by shclarkson - 10/30/09 12:08 PM In reply to: Two thing to begin with by Steven Haninger

how do i check to see if DHCP is set to automatic? please give a step by step guild to check this?

i have found where it says DHCP is enabled ?

i have removed my wireless router as i dont use my wireless laptop much so i'm connected streight from the modem by cable as was before anyway and there is no differance.

when my comp starts the icon comes up as with anti-virus and firewall icons but after a min or so it say's limited or no connection,so there's no point in trying to click on a browser, so i have put a network connection icon on my desktop and i right click it and disable it then enable it and it's ok but before i do this i have checked the ip address and the ip address is differant so for some reason it assigns the wrong ip address then when i disable/enable it must assign the correct address as it works ok then, now you know why i say's it's weird ??

Post 10 of 25

DHCP client service

by Steven Haninger - 10/30/09 12:22 PM In reply to: RE Two things to begin with by shclarkson

It's found in Start/Settings/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Services and called DHCP Client. It should be set to automatic. It generally is but who knows. If set to manual, it would require intervention of some sort to start it.

You said you disconnected your wireless router. Were you previously connected to a wired port on that router? If so, I'd try reconnecting it. Without the router, you're relying on your ISP for an IP address. A router on your local network can do that for you and probably more quickly. It's also a good idea to have one as added security. As for the 169 address, that wasn't assigned but some sort of a Windows default when no address is assigned. You're seeing it for the reasons you mentioned...no address assigned. What happens when your PC starts is it needs to send out a request for an IP address. Such is what a router would respond with. In your case, it's needing to come from your ISP. It sounds as though something isn't working until you manually intervene. My suggestion is to try the router.

Post 11 of 25

DHCP client service

by shclarkson - 10/30/09 1:32 PM In reply to: DHCP client service by Steven Haninger

checked and yes it is on automatic, and yes it was wired to the router by cable, i have put the router back and no change still same.

Post 12 of 25

Two more ideas before drastic measures

by Steven Haninger - 10/30/09 1:52 PM In reply to: DHCP client service by shclarkson

I'd try safe mode with networking. You reboot the computer and, just before Windows load, you tap the F8 key to bring up a menu of options. One should be "Safe mode with Networking". Press that one. Once the desktop loads and you wait a short time...half a minute or so...try your browser. If it doesn't work, the only other suggestion I have to determine if it's your ISPs problem or yours is to try another PC to see if the same issue duplicates. If it does not, you're looking at fixing something in your PC. I can't say what that will be at this time. Good luck.

Post 13 of 25

RE : two more ideas

by shclarkson - 10/30/09 3:28 PM In reply to: Two more ideas before drastic measures by Steven Haninger

Cant get f8 to work , but i've tryed an old pc and it works ok so like you said it must be something with this pc but what ??

Post 14 of 25

I can't tell you what happened

by Steven Haninger - 10/30/09 4:16 PM In reply to: RE : two more ideas by shclarkson

Perhaps you might recall something installed, updated, changed, etc., just prior to the problem occurring. There are a couple of simple non-destructive things you can do. If you remember the approximate date this occurred and you have a restore point set that you know was prior to that time, you can use the system restore function but my guess is it won't work. You can use the "system file check" utility to make sure none of these are missing or corrupt or you can attempt a repair installation of the OS which won't touch your 3rd party programs or personal files. Those are options before doing a complete rebuild of XP. Much depends on how important it is to you to fix this. I have a couple of glitches with my primary machine that I just live with. I built it and installed XP on it 6 years ago so I don't expect it to be perfect. It does what I need and live with the rest.

Post 15 of 25

A couple more ideas

by Steven Haninger - 10/30/09 4:45 PM In reply to: RE : two more ideas by shclarkson

I'd wonder if your network interface device drive wasn't changed or become corrupt. Another cause if connectivity problems is a broken Windows socket. I don't know if the symptom is identical to yours. I would check for a newer driver for your NIC if available. Sometimes Windows updates has hardware updates too including those for network devices. These updates are to be avoided. Only get them from the manufacturer. If your driver date is fairly recent and you didn't update it yourself, it's possible Windows update could have done so. I'd roll it back. If the driver is old and you can find a newer one available, I'd install it.

As for broken Windows sockets, this is a registry issue. You can google "Winsock fix" and find 3rd party utilities that work. I've not had to do this myself but know others who have and it's sometimes paid off. Good luck again.

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