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How do I Convert old super 8 mm to CD or DVD
by jimdent - 2/4/05 12:48 PMI have some very old ( 40 years ) super 8 movies of my family that I would love to have on CD OR DVD. Does anyone know what equipment I would need in order to accomplish this?? Thanks. Jim
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by R. Proffitt
- 2/4/05 1:27 PM
In reply to: How do I Convert old super 8 mm to CD or DVD by jimdent
http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-7596-0.html?forumID=60&threadID=56142&messageID=731073 and other items in that forum have already discussed this topic.
Bob
Can provide this service
by dba123 - 2/24/05 8:44 PM In reply to: How do I Convert old super 8 mm to CD or DVD by jimdentJim,
To save you the hassle and money (because you need special equipment to do this), I provide this service to my customers. I am a Web Developer in Silicon valley and have the means to do so.
Just email me at pivotalkbs@hotmail.com and I'll quote you..you can send the tapes to me and I'll convert them to DVD for you.
Misconception
by mdsock - 2/25/05 8:26 AM In reply to: Can provide this service by dba123What the original poster is referring to Super 8 FILM, not video tape. A transfer box is what is usually used. I'm not sure how available they are now, but you can generally find them on eBay if nowehere else.
A projector is used to place the image on a small screen on one face of the box and a (hopefully) optical-grade prism reverses the image and displays it on another face. A camcorder can then be used to record the film contents. This works suprisingly well, if care is taken and the equipment is good.
A digital model would probably facilitate transfer, as well as giving the best quality. The camcorder would be connected to a firewire port and the video would just be sent to the hard drive. I don't know offhand if you can do it while recording (never had to try it), but you can always just play it back. Almost any camcorder of this type will do, as long as it has a firewire port. I don't know if any newer models will have USB 2.0, but then you will need one on the computer. A USB 1.1 computer port will NOT do because of the data rate. Note that the file sizes will be quite large per minute of video compared to DVDs, so having a large drive would be a necessity. Fortunately, drives in the 100+ GB ranges are relatively inexpensive.
If an analog camcorder is used (or a digital model's analog output), a video capture device will accomplish the same thing. There are several models available in a wide range of prices (I have an ADS DVDXpress, which works well, but there can be heat issues if it's run for extended periods) and the advantage is that the file stored on the hard drive will be much smaller compared to what will be obtained with the digital camcorder. Most of these connect to the computer through USB. 1.1 will work here, but 2.0 is better if the device supports it. There are some that plug into a PCI slot.
Something like VideoStudio or Pinnalce Studio will allow you to author discs, as well as having capture capabilities (with your own hardware). The current versions of Nero Burning ROM and Roxio Media Creator also have decent, if somewhat less flexible, software.
One other option is to purchase a stand-alone DVD recorder and feed the camcorder output directly to it. Some have editing capabilities, but in any case, you would have it stored on disc and could deal with any editing later.
I haven't talked about sound connections because I don't know how likely it is that the films have audio (can't remember if Super 8 did, although I thought it was an option). That can be a bit tricky depending on your hardware. In instances where you can feed the audio directly to the recording device (stand-alone audio jacks or computer audio adapter), you'll need to find a way to hook up the projector's sound output. Again, I don't know if the digital camcorders have a pass through capability, which would make real time recording impossible if they don't. If the projector has line outputs, you only need the right patch cord. If it has speaker outputs or worse, only a speaker, you would have to play with volume levels in the first case (again, using a patch cord) and perhaps use a microphone next to the speaker in the latter.
As noted, you can also just send it out to have it done, but this can be expensive with a large number of reels to transfer. Then again, if you're not inclined, it might be worth the cost for you. There are still services that do film conversion, although I think they were far more ubiquitous during the time video tapes became popular.
I hope this helps.
Re: Sound
by John Robie - 2/25/05 9:19 AM In reply to: Misconception by mdsockHi,
I had not read your good post before making mine.
For sound on the different 8mm/16mm movie films I converted to VHS years ago:
If it was my film I would connect a mike to the VHS recorder (after film was transferred to the recorder) and narrate with music from a large hi fi Dolby system playing in the background.
For others, using different music, editing/pause while switching the music to the era of the times. I recall using some old Glen Miller and The Carpenters music along with Frank Sinatra, Elvis, etc...
Copy from film.
by D Geo - 4/20/05 2:59 PM In reply to: Misconception by mdsockMy neighbor did this using white poster board for a screen, a movie projector and a vidio camers. Low cost and worked great. There are DVD recorders out there now under $200 that preform quit well.
greetings............8mm to cd
by mully1 - 3/10/07 4:18 PM In reply to: Can provide this service by dba123do you still provide this service? if not could you recommend? thanks much
re: 8 mm to dvd
by charliegirl42 - 11/10/07 10:31 PM In reply to: Can provide this service by dba123I tried contacting you by your email, and got a bounce back. Can you contact me please about converting 8 mm to dvd? Thanks.
Charliegirl42@yahoo.com
Conversion of Sper 8mm film to DVD
by ww32422002 - 12/20/07 3:12 AM In reply to: Can provide this service by dba123hi:
I have about 50 rolls of Super 8mm film that I would like to convert to DVD. Can you quote a price?
Thanks,
Walter Ortega
w32422002@yahoo.com
You should be able to find a lot of ...
by Kees Bakker - 12/20/07 3:18 AM
In reply to: Conversion of Sper 8mm film to DVD by ww32422002
local photographer's shops that can do this also. Of course, they don't do it themselves, they serve as intermediary. Just ask around.
Kees
you convert?
by buuddy - 12/26/07 11:08 PM In reply to: Can provide this service by dba123I also have super 8's to convert. Do you have samples to compare? I also have some super 8's not developed. Are there still services out there that develope. Some of the undeveloped ones are 30 years old. the developed ones are in excellent shape and are in reels and casettes.
stephen tompkins
408-224-4589
Re: Convert old super 8 mm
by John Robie - 2/25/05 8:58 AM In reply to: How do I Convert old super 8 mm to CD or DVD by jimdentI notice that none of the references actually answered your specific question...just kinda glossed over.
First off your old super 8 movies need to be converted to VHS video tape or images taken with a Digital Camcorder that can be transferred to your (powerful PC with large RAM) by Firewire (IEEE 1394 adapter).
I have home-make-do converted many dozens of hours of 8mm, super 8mm, and 16mm film to VHS video tape, for myself and friends/relatives. It seems if you have a lot of 8mm film, it can cost a fortune to have it commercially converted to VHS (or DVD). You 1st need a Projector to project the film for the particular mm(I have each type). Then splicing all the 50 ft etc. reels together on large capacity reels. Set up a video camera or camcorder on a tripod to take videos of the projected images on to some type of screen. The large screen that is normally used for viewing is not the ideal, causing grainy pictures. I have purchased two different types of commercial "projector setups with a screen" that I though was not as good for clarity as a old discarded box for a screen. Experiment with different materials for a screen. You want to project a small image for clarity. I eventually used some throw away type box that was glossy white, and projected aprx an 8x8 inch image that was recorded by my video camera(s).
After camera recording, transfer to your VHS recorder with RCA or S-VHS cable connection to make a VHS tape. If using a camcorder with firewire, to the PC with firewire. Follow other instructions on converting VHS or camera images to DVD.
Of course, by now, the commercial converters of 8mm/16mm film to DVD have sophisticated equipment that will also cost you a pretty penny.
Sound problem when converting Super 8 to VHS or Digital
by trendc01 - 2/6/07 7:51 AM In reply to: Re: Convert old super 8 mm by John RobieWe are attempting to convert super 8 film. We have an RCA cc634 (VHS) video camera and a new JVC Hard Drive camcorder. We also have the converter box. When we try to convert to either method the noise of the super 8 projector comes thru onto either VHS or digital camera. We don't know how to turn off the sound on the RCA CC634 Small Wonder video camera or the new JVC GZMG27U hard drive camcorder. Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also when using the JVC camcorder we don't know how to record directly to our VHS recorder.
Convert super 8 to dvd or video
by johndk - 3/12/05 1:00 PM In reply to: How do I Convert old super 8 mm to CD or DVD by jimdentYou can buy a "box" where you project the old film (by way of the old projector) into one side and you set up your video camera on the other side and film the movie. I use a fire wire connector from the video camera to a 120 gig hard drive on my computer which has Pinnacle Studio version 9 running in capture mode. Once Studio has captured it you can edit to your hearts content and output to either dvd or video tape.
Hope this helps, John K. Bilpin, Australia.
Excellent John .....
by John Robie - 3/12/05 1:18 PM In reply to: Convert super 8 to dvd or video by johndkexcept I had purchased the "box" type you describe and it is not as good as a small homemade (cut out a 8x8") piece of glossy cardboard as a screen to bring out a better clearer, non-granny immage that can be captured by the camcorder.
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