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by etarfdc - 9/30/08 3:46 PM
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Reformat w/out reinstall?

by etarfdc - 9/30/08 3:46 PM

I have a PC running XP that I want to sell, so I want to (at least) reformat the hard drive to clear everything. Everything I read online discusses reformatting and reinstalling XP, but I don't want to put XP back on it. I want the new owner to decide which OS he wants. Is there any reason that I can't just reformat the drive and leave it at that? Will it cause a problem for the new owner that prevents him from being able to do anything? I had assumed that this was fine until I began looking for instructions online.

Post 2 of 14

(NT) You can do that but it will decrease the system value.

by VAPCMD - 9/30/08 4:06 PM In reply to: Reformat w/out reinstall? by etarfdc

Post 3 of 14

Format/Reformat

by Spiderrman - 10/7/08 2:21 PM In reply to: (NT) You can do that but it will decrease the system value. by VAPCMD

One thing I have not seen mentioned is a format will wipe all drivers and such for that particular machine. This could cause major problems.

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If You Want To Erase All Things From The Drive...

by Grif Thomas Moderator - 9/30/08 4:07 PM In reply to: Reformat w/out reinstall? by etarfdc

...depending on how secure you want to make the drive, then a simple "format" may not be enough.. There are free tools with which you can actually wipe the drive entirely. the disc wipe tools write 0's to the disc so the old stuff can't be retrieved as easily. This still should allow the next user to install an operating system by formatting the drive as they see fit, then install the OS and all other software... Below are links to two that I use:

Dban
http://www.dban.org/

Killdisk
http://www.killdisk.com/

Still, if you only want to format the drive, then it can be done that way as well.. Format with on old Windows 98 floppy disc or the Windows XP disc that came with your computer.

Hope this helps.

Grif

Post 5 of 14

format

by seenodeer65 - 10/4/08 2:34 AM In reply to: If You Want To Erase All Things From The Drive... by Grif Thomas Moderator

Okay silly questions here, Their is format and reformat?
And to format you need the CD that came with it?
I am supposed to be reformating my computer like yesterday. LOL
I really need to get started and I can't seem to make myself enjoy this. :( lol

Post 6 of 14

Reformat and Format Do The Same Thing...

by Grif Thomas Moderator - 10/4/08 6:13 PM In reply to: format by seenodeer65

..The only difference in my interpretation is a "reformat" is formatting a "used" drive which has previously been formatted.. Other than that, the process is the same.

But remember, formatting a drive can be done a few different ways.. Formatting the drive only "prepares" the drive for an operating system installation. Once the partitions are created and the partitions are formatted, then you install the operating system.

It's not "required" to have the operating system to format a hard drive but with the newer operating systems, assuming that you're going to install an operating system after the format, it's usually preferred and easier to use "the CD that came with it".

Hope this helps.

Grif

Post 7 of 14

Reformat and format

by seenodeer65 - 10/6/08 9:31 PM In reply to: Reformat and Format Do The Same Thing... by Grif Thomas Moderator

Oh I think I understand.
I baught this computer several years ago. I do lots of graphics, 3D, 2D, Animations, and so on.
I looked the other day and I have 8% free space. Yikes!
It is W XP and the CD's came with it. So if I understand you correctly,I will be formatting my computer not reformatting right?
I just want to clean it out , save what I want, then put the CD that came with it back in and start over sort of fresh. That's a question to I think. :)
Thank you
Cathy

Post 8 of 14

Is The Format Necessary?

by Grif Thomas Moderator - 10/7/08 6:56 AM In reply to: Reformat and format by seenodeer65

If you're only concerned about running out of space, it's easier to simply remove unneeded files or copy them over to removable media like a DVD or external hard drive.. In this type of situation, you don't really need to format the drive.

If you simply want to free up some space on the computer, check the link below:

How To Clean Unwanted Files From The Hard Drive

And after performing the steps in the link above, you can also use the Disk Cleanup utility to eliminate all but the most recent System Restore point.. This step alone can give you a few GB's more of free hard drive space.

On the other hand, if the computer is running poorly, or you have spyware or viruses on the machine, then YES, reformatting the hard drive might be a good idea.. Either way, if you don't have a recent backup copy of all your important files, NOW is the time to make one.

Hope this helps.

Grif

Post 9 of 14

formatting

by seenodeer65 - 10/7/08 1:19 PM In reply to: Is The Format Necessary? by Grif Thomas Moderator

Okay thank you I will check the link out. I am having no problems with my computer running slow or poorly at all if you can beleive that. I am on dial up so I am use to it taking it's time any way. lol
It's a gateway and It's been great to me. They discontinued this model , or I would get one just like it.
No I am concerened about that 8% of space, and the last defrag I tried the computer said I didn't have enough space to defrag , what ever that meens. That is why I checked that pie. LOL To explain from me is take a nickle beside the pie chart and thats what I have left.

Cathy

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No Windows install-

by etarfdc - 10/4/08 8:18 AM In reply to: If You Want To Erase All Things From The Drive... by Grif Thomas Moderator

I don't have an installation disc. I don't think the version on the laptop is even legit, which is one reason that I want to wipe off the OS before selling. I was thinking of putting Linux on there, since it's what I can afford.
To the other poster - I'm looking for a no-cost solution, so putting in a new HD isn't going to happen.
I'm also not so concerned about the files on the drive from a privacy or security perspective (there's nothing important there). I just want to clear them so that the PC is a clean slate for the new owner, and it would take forever to manually delete the files.

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Then Create The Installation Disc

by Grif Thomas Moderator - 10/4/08 6:21 PM In reply to: No Windows install- by etarfdc

After wiping the drive with Dban or Killdisk, you can easily format the drive and install Linux.. There are a number of links on Google which provide "How To Install Linux" instructions.

Hope this helps.

Grif

Post 12 of 14

Burn a Linux disk

by Jelly Baby - 10/6/08 3:59 AM In reply to: No Windows install- by etarfdc

The easiest option is to download (or find on a magazine cover disk) a Live Linux ISO of any flavour, burn a CD from it and boot to the Linux CD.
Given that you don't need to do a secure format, once Linux loads from the CD mount the hard drive and take ownership of it then use any of the Linux tools to either re-format the hard drive or just to delete all the files (getting to the root directory of what used to be your "C" drive then typing "rm -r *" in a console should do the trick ;¬) . Each version of Linux is slightly different in how you need to do this but a quick search on-line will point you in the right direction.
You could even let the Linux CD install onto the laptop. Part of the installation is the option to either partition the drive and save any existing files and the original OS or (the one you want) format the drive and use all space for Linux.

Post 13 of 14

Just put in a new hard drive

by GENE8 - 10/4/08 12:48 AM In reply to: Reformat w/out reinstall? by etarfdc

You will be better off just taking out the hard drive you have now and put in a brand new hard drive for the new owner to use. If you try to reformat your drive, there's always a chance that you might corrupt the drive or you might not get all your files off 100%.

Post 14 of 14

Yes, format the drive, no - you can't keep the OS

by RobKraft - 10/4/08 6:32 AM In reply to: Reformat w/out reinstall? by etarfdc

Format and Reformat mean the same them. I guess we sometimes say reformat because we are formatting the drive again. Once formatted, everything on it is gone (for normal purposes). Then you need to re-add the OS. If the OS that came with your computer is an OEM license, then the OS belongs to that computer and you do not have a license to legally use it on another machine. So, if you have the OS install media, and it is an OEM license, you should provide the OS install media to the new computer owner.
If you have a non OEM OS license, then it is your choice to keep the OS and use yourself to install on another computer; or to include the license in the sale to someone else. You can identify an OEM licensed OS because the installation key has the letters OEM in it.

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